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Here's my Beretta 92FS with an Inox (stainless) slide and barrel, proper Inox guide rod, SGS compensator, hardwood grips with stainless hex screws, Elite hammer, Beretta D hammer spring, short reach trigger, & trijicon night sights. More to come soon...

Good input, but keep in mind this is a SD pistol, not a hunting pistol so it's not going to have the same performance as a .44, .454, etc... I used to have a Super Redhawk .44 Mag. w/9.5" barrel, but traded it because it was fun, but not practical for me. The USP 45 is. It has a 4.4" barrel and holds 12 rounds, which is pretty good for a .45 IMO. I can carry it daily if wanted and it has the ability to shoot the 45 Super for when I'm in black bear country. The Buffalo Bore 45 Super is available in JHP, flat nose FMJ, & hard cast. Since the only bears around are black bears & not grizzly's the flat nose FMJ will probably be efficient enough to get good penetration although I'd rather avoid a bear attack to begin with. Buffalo Bore has a 185 gr round that has a velocity of around 1,300 fps and 700ft lbs of force which isn't bad especially when you consider the pistol can hold 12 rounds of it. They also have 200 & 230 gr round with 1,200 & 1,100 fps and 620-640 ft lbs... That brings me to another question. Would it be ideal to go with a 185 gr with higher velocity rated at more ft lbs of force or a slower moving 230 gr round? Here's what Buffalo Bore has available in the 45 Super... http://www.buffalobore.com/ammo/.45-super-15-1.html Thanks guys.

Absolutely! When you hear people talk about H&K's being heavy duty, they're not exagerating. The HK USP 45, HK45, & the Springfield you mentioned were designed to handle 45 Super right out of the box. Other pistols can be modified to shoot it, but can't do it right out of the box. Unlike other manufacturers, H&K states there's no limit to the amount of +P the USP 45 can shoot & it can handle 45 Super without the need for extra porting. H&K almost overbuilds their pistols right from the factory, but that's part of why thy're so expensive. The USP has a dual recoil spring system that was designed specifically to shoot hot +P ammo. 45 Super will increase wear on parts, but it can take thousands of rounds before springs need replacing. Shooting 45acp through the USP 45 feels like a strong 9mm thanks to the recoil design.

Someone needs to get his address so we can send him a crate of condoms for Christmas so he doesn't reproduce & make any copies of himself. I can just imagine a bunch of little redneck kids running around in cammo T-shirts twirling their Glocks around at the family reunion yelling "that's how I roll, daddy".

SpicyMchaggis, that's what I'll probably end up doing if I don't find it in a store soon. I don't reload and don't plan on shooting 1,000 rounds of it. I just wanted to pick up a few boxes to get a good feel for it & to keep some on hand. I've been looking at Buffalo Bore's 185 & 200 gr in 45 Super. Speer Gold Dot used to make it, but I think it's been discontinued. Buffalo Bore seems to be the ony brand making it right now.

Here's a pistol that's truely built like a tank & shoots like a Cadillac. I picked up this clean USP 45 a while back on trade with a TGO member and finally decided to post a few pics. This one is a 100% German made model with a KF (1995) date code which was the first year these were imported into the U.S. It has a large grip with a hefty feel, but thanks to the dual recoil system it feels like I'm shooting a strong 9mm & the polygonal barrel keeps me punching holes exactly where I want them. The USP 45 just craves hot ammunition. I can't wait to pick up some 45 Supers and give it a good work out.

I quit taking this guy seriously & turned it off :50 seconds into the video when he started showing off his loaded pistol with his finger on the trigger.

45 Super falls right between those. It's actually a 45acp +P+, but has a much thicker case and higher pressure. You cannot use a standard 45acp case. They won't come close to handling the pressure without deforming or worse. I would never shoot 45 Super from a 1911 because the case isn't fully supported have been known to blow them apart. Like Dolomite said, a 1911 & most pistols for that matter won't handle it without modifications. I'm using a HK USP 45, which was designed to shoot 45 Super from the factory so no worrys there. I'm just having a hard time locating them in a store. Here's a link that tells more about the round... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_Super

I'm looking for some 45 Super ammunition for when I'm in bear country and haven't found any local shops that sell it. Does anyone know of any stores in the Knoxville/ Campbell Co./ Fentress Co. area that sells it? I know I can order it online & I don't mind that, but I wanted to check on buying from a GS first. My LGS is too unreliable to even check on it. I asked my LGS about ordering some & they told me there was no such thing as 45 Super...WTF?!? Give me a shout if anyone has spotted any for sale in a GS. Thanks.

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+1 on that...I'm trying to locate an Inox (stainless) model, but they're a getting hard to find.

I'm a huge Beretta fan and with ten's of thousands of rounds through mine without a single failure, I have 100% confidence in them. To find a date of manufacture look and see if it was made in the US or Italy. If it was made in Italy it will have a two letter date code stamped on the right side of the trigger guard. The US models don't have this. If it was made in the US, you can contact Beretta to find the date. If the serial starts with "BER", Beretta's site has a link to give the actual manufacture date. The stories of the failed 92's happened in the early 80's & occurred during military testing. Beretta had started a contract with another company to make the steel for the slides and the first batch were not hardened properly and they did have a few failures during military testing. I think Beretta reported the first batch was only around 10 slides. That problem (which really wasn't a problem) was fixed in 1987 when Beretta added an extra safety feature to the bottom of the slide to prevent the slide from flying off the frame if the slide were to ever crack. The locking blocks of the standard 92 FS are rated at around 25,000-30,000 rounds. The newer 92A1/96A1/90-Two generation locking blocks are rated at 50,000 rounds & are interchangable with all models. I've heard of the chrome lined barrels lasting well over 150,000 rounds without losing accuracy. The older barrels & stainless barrels wear faster because they don't have the chromed lining on the inside of the barrel. Basically, Beretta has proven to be one of the most reliable pistols in the world & IMO, you can't go wrong with them. Parts are interchangable, they're one of the easiest pistols to work on, there are tons of accessories, & they hold their value. Good luck.

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I don't understand why people are actually shocked that stores would try to make money. If you don't like the price, you have a few options...haggle over the price...use cash or check instead of a card...or say "no thank you" & shop somewhere else. I've never used a credit card for a gun purchase and don't even have a single cent of credit card debt. The way I see it, if I can't afford to buy it, I do without it until I can.

I agree it sucks, but I don't consider it a rip off. It is a legitimate fee that I feel shouldn't be passed on to the buyer, however. Credit card companies do charge the seller a 3% fee on every purchase run through their credit company. If you don't pay with a card you don't have to pay that fee. Vedors don't add that 3% for cash & check customers to save money for the customers that aren't using a card. Also, some vendors don't charge the extra 3% if you're using a debit card, but not all will do that & it depends on what credit company the vedor uses too. My LGS doesn't charge any extra fees, but their prices are already higher than a kite to begin with. All I can say is haggle, haggle, haggle!

Sounds like you've got a nice collectable set. The way their value is going up, you could sell the 92/96 combo in a few years and buy a new house. Just the empty plastic cases for the combos alone can go for well over $100. Right now I'm on the lookout for something in the Inox variety to add to the collection.

My cousin bought a new Caracal F model last year just before Christmas. The guy in the GS told him the company went out of business & they were being discontinued, & had it marked down to $349. I don't know much about them, but I agree, they have a nice feel. He brought it over a while back to let me see it, but we haven't been able to get together to try it out yet. Are they still being made? If they're good quality, I'd like to find out more about them too.

Here's the newest addition to my collection. I'm not a 1911 fan & another TGO member wasn't a Beretta fan so we decided to meet up for a trade. He took home my 1911 & I went home with this beautiful Beretta 92SB. The photo barely does it justice and doesn't show the amazing deep blue shine of the finish. According to the serial number this one was produced in 1984 & as you can see, is in excellent condition. Did I mention, I luv Berettas?

I sold a couple of small items I brought with me from home and found a sweet deal on some nice factory USP 45 mags for $20 a piece. I spent a few hours at the show, met some friendly sellers, ate half my body weight in hot wings over at Quaker Steak & Lube, & went home. Overall, a pretty good day.

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Went to the Oneida show today. It was a small show, but had some really good prices compared to the R&K shows. It was $7 to get in with coupon, good for Sat. & Sun. One dealer was there with a few used SIG 229/.357 w/night sights for $499 (85-90% finish) & I kicked myself for passing up a Belgium Hi-Power for $350 in 90% condition. About 50% of the show is rifles & shotguns, with a lot of new & used revolers. I also saw several new S&W M&P/.40's/9mm, & Taurus Milleniums. I was on the lookout for a nice Beretta, but there were only three in the entire building. One was a used PX4, a new .32 Tomcat, & a super overpriced used Cheetah 85. Saw one used USP .45, a USP 45 compact, tons of AR's, & knives. Since I couldn't find a Beretta, I ended up coming home with a custom RIA 1911. One thing I noticed was the dealers were all pretty nice guys to talk to and deal with. All the vendors were having a slow day & I got a few really good quotes on new Mossberg 500's & M&P's, but walked away with a 1911 instead. Time will tell if I picked a winner.

I'm planning on going both days. I've got some items I'd like to sell or do some trading on. Hoping for a good turn out since it's being held at the Armory at the Scott County Airport. Since I live in Oneida, it's going to be nice to only drive 10 minutes instead of 1 1/2 hours each way to a gun show. The promoter is "Great American Promotions". Has anyone been to one of their shows? All the shows I've attended have been run by R&K.

Just added on some grips and stainless hex grip screws. I think it looks a little dressier with the Pau Ferro grips & they feel really good.