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Old trick, penetration is less, and try to keep it within 20yrds.

The bonding of the military was completely different than I could have ever imagined. The military is really small when it comes down to it. I shipped out to basic with a guy from my hometown, we went to basic/AIT together, we went to Hawaii together, and were in the same squad in Afghanistan.

It was 10 years ago this month that I left Basic/AIT at Leonard Wood. I rode a bus with about a dozen of my buds from basic to Ft Benning for Airborne School. I never did KP but I did just about everything else a soldier could do and then some, seriously. I don't believe most people believe me when I tell them all the things I got to do in 5years of AD and just 1 year in the guard.

And sometimes after getting an answer, we realize how wrong we were for so long.

I often carry a NAA mini-mag, not quite a derringer but along the same lines. I do have a Cobra 32h&r mag derringer that I have carried a few times. It is really a stash gun and a gun to keep around just to have something to shoot 4 different chamberings of .32. The .32H&R mag in a locked breech chamber without A cylinder gap makes for a very controllable but hard punching round. My dream derringer would be a DA American derringer or DA Hi Standard. All of these guns are BUGs obviously.

I have yet to see any 9mm since December. I have seen everything else at one point or another. My 9mm's have gotten cob webbs from sitting so long. I never had a reason to reload 9mm because it was so cheap. I only started reloading 40 because I was getting so much free brass. Like someone else pointed out, 9mm has risen in price. I went into GT Distributors and saw a sign for steel case 9mm for something like 100 rounds for $34.99. I said I would have bought it if it were brass case, the associate said it is all gone. Their cheapest brass case 40s&w was only 16.99/50.

Yes, Silvers is excellent.

Wait a minute. Where are you finding 9mm? You should get an aftermarket extractor for Glocks experiencing BTF. The Lone Wolf extractors seem to be the best. A few people have used older non-dipped extractors from Glock with semi-good results.

From looking at the damaged areas of that 19 it looks as if that was a seperated case from stressed brass. Nothing to do with lead. We have seen as many cases of factory ammo failing lately as we have seen reloads failing. I feel my reloads have better QC on my single stage press than some guy worried about getting off work running a progressive press in a factory.

Kahrs are some of the roughest recoiling pistols I have ever shot.

He should get a Glock 19 over a Glock 23 so he can drive all over town looking for 9mm ammo. I find 9mm ammo to be almost extinct. If he would like to shoot my Gen4 Glock 23 before he buys one he is welcome to. Tell him to bring the ammo.

Deleted, I was confusing the problem for something else.

Do you have a link for those stories? The fact is HCP holders are still human but less likely to commit crimes than nonHCP holders. Yesterday a 18yo in Chattanooga chased a 16yo from a school and shot him dead. This same 18yo was already a murder suspect and has been arrested for carrying deadly weapons. Obviously he isn't following the rules. Carry to protect yourself from those who do not follow the rules.

Hey, it's Walmart, there should be some encintive to work there.

I got a heads up from a friend that NAA revolvers of all things went up in price dramatically. I was able to score one in another shop for $20 cheaper than a new one would cost a dealer. My buddy has said people are buying revolvers for every imaginable reason. Some people fear that all autos or autos holding more than 6 rounds could receive a ban, looks unlikely now.

I don't believe Craig's got the buisness, I read it was someone else. A Sig 220, department price is $700ish at GT Distributors. I know for a fact GT's will give $300 credit for a average condition G22 gen3. KPD got raped by whoever they did this deal with.

The judge interest me only because it's versatile to shoot 45LC or .410's. The availability of .410 shells has been pretty good during shortages, and so has 45LC at some times. My FIL has a judge, overall not bad. There has been a few weak primer strikes and it is a really dirty gun. I have shot a lot of revolvers but the Judge throws more powder and bullet shavings out the sides than other revolvers.

That is about the figures I was thinking but I was affraid to calculate them. OMG, this is insane.

For what ever reason they had the .22's they decided they didn't need them any longer.

Truthfully what worries me more than anything is it seams like KPD got raped on the deal.

A lot of currently married enlisted/officers got married as enlisted/enlisted, enlisted/civilian, And then one went the officer route. I don't know that I have ever heard of an officer marrying an enlisted person.

I have yet to meet a retired police officer that didn't have a story of how hard it was to carry as retired. Some departments won't issue a retired ID card and some have given retirees trouble when needing to qualify. One of the problems with Military Police carrying is the DOD has always been neglectful to allow DOD cops and MP's to carry on post, let them qualify with personal weapons, and support any off duty involment at intervening with crime. Even if the law says its ok it's hard getting the DOD on board.

A third gun or for me as a BUG because I won't carry anything else.

Since the craze I was hearing Monday's but there was a couple of Mondays that they had nothing new. They said check back Tuesday then Wednesday. I was there at 0900 when they were putting out primers so I don't know if they came in seperatly or they were just putting out a little at a time.

I have read of some very recent misfires with the Hornady rimfire ammo. Have you had any?