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While I have had some good memories using a popup I just couldn't see myself buying one. All the downsides of using a tent without any of the benefits of an RV. Hookup, load up, and setup is just too much of a PIA for a two day weekend. I remember closing one up in the looting down rain, we liked to have never got the musty smell out. If there is any room in budget and your tow vehicle is capable get a real travel trailer.

I have been immensely impressed with accuracy. I don't think I have tested them outside of 20ft but I would suspect great accuracy. Have you tried a two hand grip where you hold the grip with your strong hands thumb and index finger with your support hands index finger as the trigger finger?

If it makes you feel younger, they started doing away with pinned barrels about the time I was born. They were completely obsolete by mid 84, a year before I started school. Signed, Old Fat Bald Guy

The Lab I have now I couldn't make leave if I wanted him to, I have had Labs though that would have ran for days.

Huge price difference and the Doubletap is really close to the size of a LCP.

Sweet they must have removed them.

Most of the members here will avoid that place like the plague. It is posted.

It's beautiful!

He will also buy guns and have them listed for sale immediately afterwards.

You keep saying they assume alcohol involvement in crashes they don't know if alcohol was involved or not. Where are you seeing that? Very very few fatalities would they have to guess. A fatality or serious injury crash is the easiest way to get a BAC. We don't even ask you for a test we just take it. A hit and run would be one of the only fatalities where alcohol involvement would be unknown.

I believe you are the one with fictional numbers and DUI checkpoints don't happen every weekend, most departments do not do but a single one a year. It is the possibility of DUI checkpoints that truly make people not drive impaired. That is why states with DUI checkpoints have a 20% less automobile fatality rate(CDC). You guys lost all credibility with me when you talked about the intentions and powers of the SCOTUS, they are the final say so. I wasn't going to come back to this thread.

I bet the pistol grip is slow to deploy(from closed) but I bet it's easy to hang onto.

I have commented once, I had the 22lr and it was too small. I once or twice thought I had lost it because it disappears so much. I have a magnum version, a keltec p32, and a LCP. The magnum is still smaller, lighter, and more easily hidden. I have read the Trooper Coots story before and the only homicide I have ever went to as a cop was from one shot with a 22lr. I like the smoothness of the hammer and trigger of NAA revolvers.

In Chattanooga I am a huge fan of New York Pizza Department.

If someone was very familiar with a Sig 226 would they have any complaints with a Sig 220? I know the controls are will be the same but will the 220's thinner grip be a lot of concern? Is the 227 truly a 226 twin except for the caliber?

I understand, you didn't mention you were giving a vendor a plug

I love mine, it is honestly a well tuned piece of art. It is every bit ascaccurate as most pistols, I shoot milk jugs at 20 yards. I had the 22lr and sold it to buy the mag/lr conversion. I have the 1 1/8" barrel but wished I had the 1 5/8" model.

I don't have time to address everything. Every department everywhere does mandatory blood draw on drivers in everything with a serious injury. If you are going to argue every study, observance, and life story I know then there is nothing I can say to you. DUI offenders are out there in abundance. I have known officers that have been on patrol and arrested 3 in one night. I have been screening a driver for DUI when one crashed into my parked car. I know a woman who has lost two children to DUI's years apart. I have been talking on the phone with my wife when she was rear ended by a drunk driver, no license because he had 10 DUI convictions. These DUI checkpoints generally do not cost much, most of the officers working these are reservist. There are a hell of a lot cheaper than a fatality investigation. Alcohol related means what it means; impairment on any level. Something else is there are people demanding further alcohol detection practices to include automatic blood draws. I truthfully could careless about any practices changing, people are going to continue to drink. Most have been severely effected in their family life with DUI's. I have been in a trial when the judge asked the potential jurors (150ish people) how many have had a friend or family member effected by DUI's and almost everyone raised their hands. I have seen other days when no one hardly raises their hand. Contrary to popular belief, most DUI's don't come from bars. Restaurants, private parties, people even get drink and go drive around. It takes many different practices to target DUI offenders.

That is a point but also we are driving on state, city, or county roads in which they are representatives of, and not private property. In a lot of appellate court decisions the judges have determined we have less expectation of privacy on public and it is not unreasonable to a brief stop ensuring public safety.

In 2003, 21 percent of the children under 15 years old who were killed in motor vehicle crashes were killed in alcohol-related crashes.(NHTSA, 2013). Around 1500 for that year. A hell of a lot more than killed by guns.

JayC, your probably correct in assuming that only 20% of fatalities are truly caused because of alcohol. As a traffic investigator I see a lot of crashes where speed and alcohol were the cause of the collision. I would say more than 6-7% innocent people killed crashes are killed by drunk drivers. I even seem to recall that 5% of children killed in motor vehicle crashes were because of drunk drivers, but I can't find the numbers. I do want to point out that if someone is seriously injured .05% is the maximum allowable BAC, and lower if a minor. Also unless it is a very odd situation, every driver gets a mandatory blood draw during a fatality so we don't make up numbers assuming creative numbers. Some of these statistics include drug impairment and some do not. While drug impairment detection is low during DUI checkpoints and traffic stops they are a large percentage of traffic fatality investigations. I have never done a DUI checkpoint with a K-9, I understand some departments do but I would imagine they aren't supposed to be utilized unless there is PC. I really thought that the Rutherford Co kid was on drugs btw. As far as asking questions and asking for documents, it's probably just want they are comfortable asking for. I would have no problems only asking basic questions or telling them we are checking for impaired drivers. I have picked up on several odd behaviors drunks have when you stop them. Not rolling the window down but 6 inches, not illegal but strange. They also normally have food in the car, someone in the passenger seat asleep, and very anxious to hand you a DL, registration, and insurance all at one time. If you really want to confuse a drunk ask for their drivers license and insurance only, one at a time. They will also keep their hand out anticipating getting it back and leaving quickly. I see that there is closer to 200 million licensed drivers, I was going off of memory. I wonder if they are including the large amount of licenses revoked or suspended and those that have a license issued that are deceased. There is only supposed to be 313.9 million people in he US. To think 2/3 rds have a license is a lot.

Typo fixed, I fixed it.

Without looking I would say you are correct. 100 million is slightly more than the amount of licensed drivers in the US, so it is about the equivalent of every driver driving drunk once a year.

Those 11 million most likely include granny backing into a shopping cart at Walgreens where the police did a report as a courtesy. There are 36 thousand traffic fatalities in America a year on average, but 30% or more are alcohol related. Sobriety checkpoints: traffic stops where law enforcement officers assess drivers’ level of alcohol impairment. These checkpoints consistently reduce alcohol-related crashes, typically by 9%.(CDC, 2013)

I'm sorry if you guys don't agree then you need to vote differently and voice your opinions to your elected officials. These are the people who hire the nine robed officials ruling. Until then this is the way it is? We have an estimated 30 million drunk drivers a year in America, driving drunk 100 million times a year. Now with your seasoned experience how do you recommend we stop it?