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It's worth visiting Buds in Sevierville, but I have much better luck finding what I want cheaper at SMKW.

Thanks, I will do the update.

I have owned and shot both. I like the Shield just a little bit better, and the fact that it is cheaper tips the scale tremendously for the Shield.

My 60-4 is a CAT prefix and my 60-10 is a CBL prefix. If I recall correctly the 60-4 is 1996 and the 60-10 is 1997. BRN should be 1994. The earliest confirmed plastic box I have found is 1995, but now yours is the earliest if it is 1994. Ironic still since later 60-4's have one piece cardboard boxes.

True, anything is possible with S&W. Greyfox54, the flashchromed trigger and hammer leads me to believe yours is from the first production run of very few numbers. Pops, can I get the serial prefix? It's interesting that the numbers match the box because the plastic boxes came along after the end of the hammer mounted firing pin. The wooden magnas don't surprise me; I have just never seen a 60-4 with them.

I have the 60-4 and the 60-10. I stumbled upon both of them within a week of one another. The 60-4 had a little pitting and I have exactly $500 in it and honestly think that is what it is worth. I constantly watch auctions and mint 60-4's bring as much as $1k with boxes and papers. They came with cardboard flip boxes and not plastic ones. Any of the 3" 60's that are 38 spl are somewhat rare. The 60-10 is very desireable since it is a prelock 357 but there were more of them than 60-1's or 60-4's. Oh, and all 60-4's would have came with rubber Uncle Mike's grips; either combat or boot grips.

Supposedly the distributors have been unable to arrange preorders. This almost gives the illusion that it is dead on arrival.

I believe that was Gander Mountain on 153.

The Sig 10mm ammo isn't bad and can be found at reasonable prices if you don't load yourself. I am a big fan of the Remingron UMC in 10mm. It is also a little bit more on the hot side; it seams like it was 1150fps for a 180 gr bullet out of a 4.5" barrel.

No, the .38 should have a little less even though the .38LCR is lighter than the .327. I do know that in the same weight and size of firearm that the .32 H&r mag recoils less than a standard pressure 38spl.

I am a huge fan of the .327federal, however I have not shot one, but I love the versatility and the extra round. If I had one it would probably shoot mostly .32acp rounds even though some weak primer strikes may occur.

Bud, what barrel length do you have? The 30-1 is probably the best variation of all the 30's and 31's. I have heard the 30-1 is capable of some seriously hotnliads and should have been chambered in 32mag, and many of them have been reamed to accept the 32h&r mag anyway. Otherwise you get to enjoy some light recoiling 32s&w and 32s&w long cartridges.

I could carry my own and it wouldn't necessarily have to be a G23, but it just doesn't seem like it would be worth the hassle. The Gen 4 belongs to the state, but the other two are mine and both have really high round counts.

I tend to be drawn to work for agencies that have Glock 23's as duty weapons so I keep a couple of spares.

I can pretty much agree with what has already been said. Just remember it is a .357 originally intended to be a 38spl gun. They came around at a time that stainless guns were more popular and then the wonder nines stole the popularity contest from all the wheel guns. The L frames were not much larger and made up for k frame short comings.

So S&W can put 5 shots of 44 mag in an L frame but Ruger can only put 44 specials in a gp100?

Haha! I mentioned Jane Fonda to a very intelligent but uppish neighbor who can't be over 25 years old, and he swore up and down he had never heard of her. Talk about someone, Fonda, who has dropped of the face of the earth.

I have a CVA center fire rifle that is everything the Handi Rifles should have been. Mine was less than $200 new and is ten times the shooter that I am. I bet someone that was a precision shooter could clover leaf a target at 200 yards with the right scope.

And she is damnding $15 an hour.

My grandfather had a 4" 34, but I didn't care for it. In fact, neither did he. I sold it for him a couple of years ago. I would love a 3", 9 shot 317 though, go figure.

I too have been eyeing a LCR in 22 over the last couple of years. I have seen two priced for $350 used; I should have bought one. The trigger is stiff but it has to be. If you don't mind a single action the NAA revolvers are fine little pieces. If money is not a concern you can't beat a S&W 317.

My trail gun is a S&W 60-10 and is my favorite .357. Many people call it a mini-686.

David, I have never understood the M&P's triggers varying so much one gun to the next. About one in ten will have a fabulous trigger straight from the box. For some reason all the Shields tend to have a somewhat nice trigger.

That is not a surprise to me at all. A cousin of mine that works for Atlanta said they couldn't hand their M&P's in fast enough. Scores were higher with the M&P's for the most part, but reports were they were some of the most finicky tools imaginable.

Another option is to do an audio recording of the sale by just putting your phone on video and saving the whole thing in an email in case your phone breaks or is lost. I have went on a knock and talk with the ATF, and they were overly satisfied with just getting copies of the emails between a buyer and seller.