Lumber_Jack

I was going to reply about why I do get the shot but Gkar said it better than I ever could so "ditto" on that. Great info and exactly what my physician father-in-law says every year

I believe that when he stresses penetration he is addressing caliber as well. Now there is a common photo showing ballistic gel where all of the common service calibers penetrate past the 12 inches he describes. Where I believe caliber is a factor with penetration is the fact that we as humans are not made of balistic gel, but rather of bones and muscle usually covered by some types or clothing or jackets. That's why I carry a .45. Now I know lots of people who carry 9mm and I wouldn't hesitate to trust my life too it, but I prefer the .45. Lots of LE still carry 9mm and it works well. The biggest myth I think addressed is the "down with one shot". We should be prepared to shoot as many times as necessary and make sure the bullets hit the target Edit: check out this forum post for the ballistic gel photo Handgun self-defense loads - High Drag Low Speed

A guy at the last Knoxville gun show was selling saiga mags for $50 each, at that rate it would be worth it just for the mags.

if this is true you muct be super dense! I am a 1911 fan but I would go with the Glock. I do not like the 3" 1911s, they are too hit and miss with reliability. Most can be made reliable with different mags or extractor adjusting, but out of the box you can get la good one or not

I follow the law because I dont want to pay the consequences. You can still follow the law and try to change it at the same time. However remember when we try to change laws it might not be for the better

I dont believe they are classifying them as Class 3, just not allowing import under there sporting classificaitons

Now thats just silly. I dont like carrying **** in my pockets let alone my life saving weapon. I believe you are in the minority on this point, among others

agreed, its more of how the engery is transfered than the lack of transfer. But with that said, his points still seem valid.

Randys Gun and Knives - Randy's Guns & Knives - Business details I have never shopped there but have heard of others going there. I recommend Austins in Oak Ridge, their stock is low and shop is small but they are great to deal with. What are you looking for exactly, something in stock or special order?

Organic milk comes in cartons, and its a real bargain at $6 for a half gallon.

Do you know why this is?

That's the catch, they hope you will need more than the minimum and purchase more. Its a marketing tactic just like other free offers and such. Only this one seems to actually pay even if you don't buy more

Yeah I assumed in town as well but to people from a small town like that "local" could reach out a bit. There are a couple guys at Outdoor Junction that are ok, couple are douches, but that seems to be a broken record for a lot of gun shops. We as customers think we know it all, they think we don't know ****, and the truth is somewhere in the middle.

This is all you need to know in the caliber debate! great article

Trav, Your a benefactor, just post it in the classifieds, your safe, it will sell.

Dave's Pawn, and I dont see them being that way, but you never know. Outdoor Junction isn't too far. He didn't actually say it was in crossville

Yes but your wife can buy it period. Just dont go in saying "my wife is gonna buy this becaus I legally can't." no one is legally linked to the gun as 'owner'. If your married it would be yours collectively

, holy , what was the sticker price before they marked it down

How could you hate the Security Six???

I like broccoli

I think he was refereing to the point that, if she came "home" to Gallatin to take the test as some have suggested, she should go there. but im just guessing, otherwise that would be some haul just for and HCP

Benelli M4 as MacGyver said once you shoot one you wont want anything else. I had a Super Black Eagle II, and that was the sweetest shooting gun Ive ever had. I sold it to fund a pistol but thats just because it was primarily a duck gun, and in East TN we aint got many ducks

Yeah I guess its just preference, but when I go to the range its the last gun I take. I shoot it enough to stay proficient for defense purposes, but just dont love shooting it. it probably has more to do with the DAO trigger wieght and such. The gun is a great shooter, just not my preference.

+1 I carry a 1911 .45, but my first hangun was a G19. I bought it because it was affordable at the time. I dont think you'll be disapointed with any of these, but just decide your use and as others have said, test a few out. I like my G19 but I dont shoot it much cause as Jonnin pointed out its no fun range gun, its pretty much a nightstand gun. I know it will go bang when I need it the most.