RobertNashville

While this is almost a sacrilegious statement to some, I don't buy anything from Wal-Mart and I've found that no lightning bolts have been directed at me and life has gone on! Whenever possible I prefer to give my custom to local businesses who, in my humble opinion, can do far more good with it what all the Wal-Marts and K-Marts and other big box stores in the world put together. Even more so when buying a firearm - when it comes to buying something as serious as a firearm, I prefer to deal with a business who's business IS firearms. Just my $0.02

I appreciate all the replies...I know there are more things I can do even without spending all that much money. I don't want to turn my home into a prison but I do want to do things to deter bad guys as much as possible and, if that doesn't work, to make it as difficult and time consuming as possible for them to get in and steel anything.

I've had very good experiences with Outpost (and a look at my debit card history would support that). I've no idea why your experience was bad but I'd say such an experience could happen any day at any gun store (or any other establishment for that matter)...one thing I decided years ago was that I wasn't going to get bad service/food, etc anyplace without letting someone in management know. After all, they can never correct a problem they don't know they have.

I tend to spend a good bit of money on firearms, especially 1911s and I certainly wouldn't mind having this one but I think I could find better uses for my money than six or seven figures that will be spent to buy this one! Nice gun though and if you buy it, let's get together...I'll let you shoot any or all of mine if you let me shoot that one!!!

Obviously, this is a subject that many people have strong feelings about. Unfortunately, it also appears that there is a lot of misunderstanding regarding what might be proposed in Tennessee with regards to "Constitutional Carry". We all have "opinions" but I would encourage all of you who want to improve your knowledge to consider attending the January meeting of the Tennessee Firearms Association (Nashville chapter). Details here: Tennessee Firearms Assoc. Inc. • View topic - No December Meeting / January Preview I plan to be there...hope to see some of you there as well!

You have the "right" to travel...you have the right to peacefully assemble and to peacefully protest...to speak freely. You DO NOT have a right to transportation (be it a car or a plane or a bus) or a free meeting room...you don't have a right to free poster board on which to write your protest slogans nor do you have a right to a platform from which to speak.

I may be wrong but I don't believe either Liberty or Browning buy imported safes.

While there has been no legislation crafted at this point; no one is talking about doing away with the HCP system in Tennessee..."Constitutional Carry" would be in addition to the current system, not a complete replacement of the current system (at least that is what I believe most people would want for the exact same concern you raise).

I suppose what surprises me in all this is how vehemently some folks believe that exercising such as basic human right (i.e. carrying a tool to aid in defending your life) is something that should require permission from a government bureaucrat. I DO believe in training and STRONGLY ENCOURAGE everyone who possesses, let alone carries a firearm to engage themselves in training at every opportunity...I would even add that while not "great", the training" for my HCP was not without some redeeming qualities and I very much enjoyed my instructor. However, while the HCP class resulted in me receiving permission from the state, I can't say it actually made me safer or more competent with a firearm in any measurable way. Bottom line is this...we don't have to have "permission" to travel from state to state to state nor to express our opinions nor to take a breath of air (at least not until Obamacare kicks in in full force)...in fact, I can't think of any other "right" that requires government permission to exercise so why do we need permission to carry a firearm for our own protection??? Until someone can answer that question for me in a reasonable and well thought out way, I have no qualms with "Constitutional Carry" nor should anyone else (in my always humble opinion).

You really should have let it go...that would have been following "responsible posting" guidelines. "Responsible Drinking" is mostly a nice euphemism created by brewers and distillers to sell product while looking as if they are socially responsible...it's also a convenient crutch for those who don't have the will power to not drink at all and/or to have a designated driver if they are going to drink and be in a car afterword. Drinking ANY alcohol and driving OR carrying a firearm is STUPID AND DANGEROUS. If I drink, which I admit isn't often I don't drive PERIOD nor would I strap on a weapon. You may think you aren't "that impaired" but even one drink will affect you and that affect, even if it's slight, may be all that's necessary to cause a lapse in judgment (whether driving or handling a firearm).

Not if you keep calling others or others' opinions "idiocy" you won't.

Taking that logic to the extreme, we would not have locks on our doors or security systems and probably make sure we had absolutely nothing anyone else would ever want to steal from us. There are risks of bad guys doing bad things no matter what we do or don't do...overall, I think making it as difficult as possible for them makes the most sense.

Just because the got away wirh it doesn't mean it wasn't a stupid move on the criminals' part.

I think that varies from gun show to gun show and while patrons may be "unloaded" I'm not sure that rule applies to vendors...that also assumes that everyone who goes to a gun show follows the rules about being unloaded. And of course as already stated, such rules don't apply to the parking lot in any case...I'd hope that if someone mugged me when getting read to leave that there would be any number of others who are armed and would step in to help. No...were I a criminal and looking for an easy place to steel a gun I don't think a gun show would be an optimal choice.

My Dad passed away on the Saturday night before Father's Day, 2001...I wasn't there to say goodbye both because I live here and my family is in Ohio and because no one was expecting it at that moment (my Dad had been sick with cancer and such for several years before it took him). I've always regretted not being there for his final moments. It still hurts and I suspect it always will. My family has had a tradition of watching a selection of certain Christmas movies the few days leading up to Christmas day...I still watch them (Christmas In Connecticut, White Christmas, Holiday Inn, It's A Wonderful Life)...when I watch them I notice I laugh at the same spots every time...the same spots my Dad and I used to laugh...and I realize that I have the same laugh as my Dad...all the feelings seem to come flooding back. Well, all that to say I know somewhat what you are going through and you have my sincere condolences.

So in your opinion, some people do not have the right to defend themselves, which means you don't believe the right to defend one's own life is actually a right at all, correct? I do believe that there are some people who should not carry a firearm but they should be ABLE to carry one if they so chose (unless by their own actions they've proven themselves unable to handle a firearm safely/put other people in jeopardy and/or they fall into one of the classes of people that society has decided don't have that right such as convicted felons, stalkers, etc.). You see, in my humble opinion, this issue is less about the right to carry a firearm and much more about a person's very basic right to be able to defend their life and the lives of their family/other innocents without the need to have permission from somebody. And, if, indeed the right to defend one's life IS a RIGHT, then permission in the form of a HCP should not be required because RIGHTS don't require permission.

There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about this issue. What has been discussed (and I was there when this question was posed to Haslam) is that those who can already legally posses a handgun be allow to "go armed" without the need of obtaining a permit. Of course, that would ONLY apply in Tennessee. However, we still need the HCP process for those who travel outside of Tennessee and want to be armed while doing so. But there is no reason why we can't have it both ways...there is NO reason why the HCP process in Tennessee needs to be or should be altered in order to also have "Constitutional Carry" for Tennessee residents within Tennessee so if we do get Constitutional Carry here, I'm sure we'll retain the HCP process. I guess this comes down to whether you believe a person really has a RIGHT to carry for his own personal protection (and to protect other innocents) or if it's only a privilege for which you have to have permission from a bureaucrat. While I personally like the concept that someone has had at least some basic instruction and a background check before carrying; I have to come down on this being a RIGHT...as such, I believe people should be able to be armed without the need for a permission slip. As a matter of fact, this very subject of this month's TFA Meeting (Nashville Chapter) which will be held on January 18th. If this subject interests you why not come to the meeting?

Everyone's needs are different...I was going through the same questions as you probably are now (and whether even to buy a safe at all)...I settled on a "middle of the line" Browning safe from the Safe House and I've never regretted it. It was not inexpensive but neither are my weapons or other valuables I keep in it and frankly, with as many weapons as I own I felt I had an societal obligation to make them as secure as I possibly could. The Safe House was GREAT to deal with and wouldn't hesitate to deal with them again and I highly recommend them. I know you are looking for inexpensive and as has been said, a budget safe is better than no safe but as an ultimate goal I'd be planning on moving up in quality as soon as I could.

This is but one more reason why we need to push the legislature to mandate that people can ALWAYS be armed in their vehicle/traveling from location to location, etc. and be able to leave their firearm locked in their vehicle if they are going into an area (employer's building, store, shopping mall, etc.) that is posted against firearms because right now, many, many of us can't carry even to our company parking lot without risk of losing our jobs. In other words, while we preserve the private property rights for the most part, you couldn't be forced to be unarmed just because you needed to park in a parking lot of an employer, etc. that didn't allow firearms withing their actual buildings (I know there is a better way to say what I"m trying to get across but the words aren't working well tonight for some reason!).

Yeah...I remember when my girl used to fit under my sofa and would play hide and seek...I wouldn't say she is a demon but she sure can be stubborn and cantankerous when it suits her!

That's a pretty bold statement...is is just your opinion of is there empirical evidence to support it? If someone lives in a home/area when there are no innocent bystanders to be killed then there is no problem...but...if someone does live in such a home/area then not taking overpenetration into account seems somewhat reckless to me...for me; I'd rather be killed by a bad gun in my home that risk killing an innocent in the house next door.

I'm not sure anyone has "admitted" to anything here have they? My question was completely and only hypothetical.

Getting an HCP is not a big deal; making the decision to carry a firearm and the responsibility that goes with that decision is; or at least it should be...I would hope no one takes that responsibility lighlty.

All is well and you are welcome...Merry Christmas!

Respectfully, as I've delved into the Constitution of late and the Second Amendment in particular, I don't believe the Second Amendment deals with "self defense" at all nor was that ever its intent. I've come to the conclusion, and I think a reasonable one, that the concept of the "right of self defense" is so basic to a person that the founders didn't see a need to codify it in the Constitution - I don't think they could every had imagined that such a concept would ever be called into question! After all, in order to pursue "Live, Liberty and Happiness" one must first be alive and stay alive and when confronted with a deadly threat, it should be beyond obvious that a person has a right to defend his live with whatever means are necessary gun, knife, stick, rock, brick...whatever. In other words, while I DO believe that we have the right to defend ourselves including bearing arms to do so, I don't believe that is the purpose of the Second Amendment. That said, I'm more than glad we have the Second Amendment and more than happy to use it as part of any legal argument why we should be allowed to "go armed" for our own protection.