RobertNashville

Park or not, who opted out or not, wouldn't they still have to post for the policy to have the force of law???

They wrote back to me today...as VER01 said, 12 is the minimum age and they require a waiver but that's it! Since it's not air conditioned, I'm hopeful that this heat will have abated by then!

I bought a Kindle about a year or so ago...I've always loved the feel of a real book in my hands and the feeling a large book collection gives a room with a well-stocked series of book shelves but I've got to say, I love the convenience of the Kindle - I can read anything in my library on the Kindle itself or any PC or even my smart phone. At this point in my life I'm really trying to keep it simple and the Kindle goes a long way in that regard.

Thanks for the info guys...I've emailed Sevier to ask but it sounds like the place! I'll let you know what they say when they answer my email and/or when I go.

Hey everyone! In about three weeks, my 13 year old nephew will be visiting from Ohio along with my sister and her family: I'm going to meet them in the Gatlenburg/Sevierville/Pigeon Forge area and I'm planning for my brother in law and my nephew and I to go shooting but I'm wonder if ranges restrict age (how old someone has to be before allowed to shoot)??? Given the above age concern, I'm looking for a good shooting range recommendation in the general Gatlenburg/Seviereville area...it can be and outdoor or indoor range but with the heat we've had I'd probably prefer a good air conditioned, well lighted and well ventilated indoor range...we'll likely be using only handguns. Any advice/recommendations would be appreciated! Thanks.

I tend to love adventure/military fiction such as Clancy but one of my favorite authors is Clive Cussler...they always seem to be an enjoyable read and although it's nice if you can sort of start at the beginning with some of his earlier novels (since his characters don't change much other than getting older) you can really pick any, even his latest, and enjoy it. That said, I love SciFi!

In a related vein, I just happened to catch a National Geographic show called "Doomsday Preppers" this afternoon...I recorded it but missed the first nine minutes of an hour show. It was actually pretty good; examined three families who were prepared for the SHTF scenairo (although each family seemed to have their own personal opinion about what the catastrophe might turn out to be which tended to color how they prepared/what they prepared for) - the show examined each family's preparations and then offered and "expert's" analysis of their plans and offered any advice on what the expert considered weak spots. Here is a link about the show: http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/doomsday-preppers-6202/blog#tab-Videos/10607_00

Well come on now, we need to be fair. It just isn't fair to admonish the anti-gun folks for not using facts because the facts are that they don't have any facts to back up their ridiculous claims.

It's a great read and I loved it and it scared the crap out of me thinking about the possibilities...whether or not you believe an EMP would cause the kind of catastrophic results you see in the book, it WILL make you think of what could happen in an emergency where things aren't back to normal in a few days. I also highly recommend "Lights Out"...is was actually written three or four years prior to "One Second After" but only recently published; I'm reading it now and can't put it down.

I guess we all have at some point haven't we! As a practical place to go/live/survive in a ****F scenario, I'm not sure how how realistic that really is...a person needs quite a lot to survive; even more to actually have a life worth surviving and that generally takes some kind of "community" so completely going it alone can sound really romantic and manly, I think things would be better in a reasonably sized group where chores/work/necessities could be shared. Then again, I'm just now reading "Lights Out" so that colors my perception a bit...I had a chance to meet the author at the Tactical Response Alumni weekend a couple of weeks ago and I've had had trouble putting the book down ever since! More realistically, just having a place to camp, hang out, do some shooting and simply being outside (well, not in 100+ degree weather) is pretty appealing.

Tell you what, if you find something and you make a deal and there is any other land in the general area let me know because I've thinking about doing the exact same thing.

Funny this should come up...I've been thinking recently about looking for some property that's pretty far removed from most other people, cities, etc...just to have as my own personal camp ground and/or a place to go if I need to get out of town.

Then I suppose no one should carry; at lest not unless they pass the "DaveTN" test??? You know nothing of "my world" or what "fights" I've been in or not been in so how about cutting the assumptions crap...the only thing "certain" when faced with someone who is willing to kill you, is that a person can either chose to defend himself or surrender - and yes, I think choosing to defend yourself is "better".

So what you are suggesting here? I carry, hoping that I never have to draw my weapon; much less use it; but I train for the possibility that I'll have to do both. However, if a person carries who is not willing to defend his life or the life of some other innocent then what is the purpose of carrying a firearm? For any of us presented with a situation where some thug is threatening our life, we all have to make what we feel is the best decision given the situation at the moment - I see nothing particularly noble in "dying with a gun in my hand" but I also don't see anything particularly noble in dying with my gun in my holster either...if I have a chance to defend myself, I think I would even if the odds don't favor me being successful and if I'm not willing to do so then I'm not sure I have any reason to carry in the first place.

You took the words right out of my mouth!

That's why I carry and that's why I've spent a good deal of time and money this year (and will be next year and the next year) taking training to better know how to fight with a gun (and without one) and how to be better aware of my surroundings and spot threats, etc. There has always been crime...always been those who prey on others rather than do honest work but society has changed a lot since I was a kid and unfortunately, not in a good way.

My "bumper sticker" says "My Basset Hound Is Smarter Than Your Honor Student and Barack Obama"...I'm sure it's offended some but I also had more than a few give me a thumbs up and/or even get me to roll down my windows so that they could verbally voice their agreement.

Thanks for the input guys; it's appreciated.

I just received a catalog in the mail from Sportsman's Guide; they are offering 420 rounds of 62 gr 5.56x45mm M855 Ammo with ammo can for $169.95. This is supposed to be American made U.S. Govt overrun. It sounds like a pretty good deal, especially considering the ammo can, however, I've never purchased anything from them before...has any of you bought from them before and if so, any problems, concerns, etc. Thanks!

You are making my point for me. "Tennessee state law is very clear..."; per your own quite of Tennessee law; the rights that the business has is simply a function of the state granting those rights; as such, the state can take them away or alter those rights any time it sees fit. Unlike a "business", a human being's right exist because he/she is a human being; not because the state says they have them.

I don't think that anyone has said that property owners have no rights. I would suggest that the discussion turns on whether such rights are impacted at all based on "who" owns the property and what the property is used for. (i.e., does a corporation that owns/controls a piece of property used for commercial/business purposes have the same "property rights" as an individual person who owns property which is his/her personal residence? Whether someone sees or doesn't see a distinction will almost certainly color their position of the topic of this thread.

Sorry to hear that...I'm looking for a new place to be myself (and a lot of what I'm finding isn't in Tennessee)...I think this will be my sixth major "jump" in career in my adult life! I can't say it's always been easy but I can say that believing in yourself and keeping a positive attitude are important and make it easier to face whatever the future brings. I hope things work out well for you!

Does anyone know or remember if Leonard is suing because of the length of time he was detained?

I don't know of any but as I think you said earlier, an officer can arrest someone for pretty much any reason they dream up. Getting arrested can be a very expensive proposition for the person arrested even if the reasons were totally bogus. Wasn't an officer's "discretion" about DUIs taken away because cops were letting people people under the influence continue driving and people got killed? Wasn't an officer's "discretion" taken away because they would go to a scene, think it was just a "family squabble" and then someone would wind up dead later because the squabble turned into something a lot worse? Officer's discretion is a great thing if they know how to use it properly but it seems to me that almost every part of modern society has been slouching toward mediocrity and I suspect that's affected law enforcement agencies too - I'm not sure I want such officers holding a lot of discretionary powers.

Yes; they are "legal entities"; granted the right to exist by the state but they certainly don't have "full rights" to anything. They are allowed to own property...they can do with that property what the state allows and they can't so what the state says they can't.