RobertNashville

It seems to me that everyone here, me included, has reached their views based on a very incomplete picture. Sometimes law enforcement acts improperly/out of bounds but most of the time, they don't. I'm not comfortable with people being snatched out of their home only based on something they said on the internet but does that mean it should never happen? I think we are getting into a new area of law enforcement...it wasn't very long ago that internet forums, social networking sites, or even wireless communications didn't exist so if this Marine had said exactly the same things to a friend or two over coffee or a couple of beers no one else would have been the wiser; today he posts it on Facebook (or TGO) and it's there for the entire world to see instantly; the entire world including law enforcement agencies with big computer power to sort though billions of words/phrases that can get their attention. What I'm saying is that what we may be seeing here is not so much the act of an overbearing, overreaching government as much as it is a new part of law enforcement that with rules that haven't bee well defined (or even thought of for that matter). Maybe we ought to be incensed by this...maybe not...I'm not sure yet.

You can post all the videos you want; but it's not going to change the outcome in Tennessee or nationally; thank God. This guy isn't even being honest - he's a "lifelong Republican" until it isn't convenient for his political aspirations anymore...that's the kind of commitment the country does not need.

If this is really all based on this Marine's Facebook postings then yes, I'd say he's being screwed and it's beyond scary that this could happen to anyone. I'm really hoping, however, that the Facebook postings isn't all there is here (of course, I seriously doubt that we've see all the Facebook postings, either). As others have pointed out, if this guy had gone out and shoot up a school or a theater or a political gathering I suspect that some of the same people here complaining about this guy's rights being violated would be here complaining about why no one did anything to prevent it from happening - that doesn't mean that what the FBI/Police did was right but given what's happened over just the past year or so, I can at least understand their concern.

And they probably want someone else to fight it as well.

I think the Libertarians are depending on people posting videos on the internet to get their message out.

I think there were plenty of people complaining about GWB's actions; just not enough of them.That's why even if Romney wins the Tea Party will need to hold their feet to the fire and be just as vocal and just as active as they have been. The RNC is scared to death of what the Tea Party represents and that's a very good thing.

Just a couple of observations... No one here knows the whole story of what this marine did or said...I suspect that there is more to this than a few Facebook posts (and I certainly hope there is). Nothing you say on the internet (including in email) should be considered private...once it's said and sent it's out there, somewhere, forever - regardless of the rightness or wrongness of this particular action against this marine, we would all do well to remember that. The First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees you freedom of speech...it does not and never has guaranteed you a platform from which to speak, an audience to hear what you have to say nor a guarantee of no consequences for what your say.

I believe the point of the story is not to rehash all the details; just to see the events from her perspective 20 years later. As for Randy Harris; he was acquitted of all charges. I admire her capacity to forgive; I don't think I could.This event should never have happened...there was no reason why anyone should have been killed...the government and the FBI were out of control and needed to be reigned in and if nothing else, the events at Ruby Ridge, demonstrated that.

Surely you aren't implying that our over-worked, under-paid public servants didn't know the laws that specifically touched on the job they were supposed to be doing are you? Edit: I mean no offense to those good, knowledgeable public servants who really are over-worked and under-paid!

He should have had to rot (or still be rotting) in jail first. I'm not against "forgiveness"; in fact I admire anyone who can truly forgive such a horrible wrong; but the man, and his superiors should all have been punished for their actions.

If that's true (not saying it isn't) then it's reasonable to wonder why they haven't taken the sign down. If they left it up out of ignorance/simply don't care then it might be wise to ask the management. If they left it up because they really don't want firearms in their bar area then "legal" posting or not...I'm not going to give them my money.

If just the bar is posted then the bar is off limits. AFAIK a business doesn't have to post the entire building if it doesn't want to just like a business can post the business but not the parking lot (but could post both if it wished).

Any massive disruption or the power grid by any cause (natural, man made, overtaxing, etc.) is my biggest nightmare...modern society depends more and more on electricity every day for almost every function that makes live necessary and concurrently we are less and less protected from any sort of EMP attack (solar storms or man-made) and we keep falling further and further behind in building infrastructure to meet demand. I spent quite a while in Beirut (Lebanon) a few years ago and had to experience several hours daily of no power - you just had to plan to do almost nothing during those times; it was no fun even though we knew (or at least expected) the power to come back on. I don't even like thinking about a complete loss of power for an extended period of time.

Frankly, I'd be monitoring them too because even though they find an "acorn" every now and then, I think most of what is put out on Infowars is just plain crazy and crazy people always concern me.

Frankly, I felt good - mostly because I had a tool to provide for my own self-protection. I also felt that I had taken a step toward being a true citizen...not dissimilar to how I feel every time I step into a voting booth.

I came across this story today and thought it was worth sharing...I remember how the events at Ruby Ridge incensed me; I suspect they did the same to many here. Anyway, I thought it worth posting.

I agree...some videos are worth their weight in gold and really have something to contribute; some don't

If you were there then we must have missed each other. I keep looking for a BMW but didn't see one...I and a couple for friends started on the 100YD rifle range then shifted to the pistol range - it was a good day to bee out shooting (but then again, that's almost always true). I've got some friends wanting to so some skeet shooting - don't know how may skeet or trap shooters we have here but maybe some of us can get together to do that either at MCSC or the Nashville Gun Club!

Hope to see some of you there tomorrow; I'm bringing a Ruger 10/22 Takedown and an FNH AR10 .308 along with a couple of pistols.

'Ole Merriam has been around a long time. I've got a MW dictionary that, at this point is about 70 years...his definition on that word is pretty stable. I'm not saying her opinion/use of the word "wrong"...Rand has her interpretation which which is fine for her purposes; bit her interpretation is not the only one and for the purposes of my post, is not how I used the word.

God gives us dogs so we can see what unconditional love is. He gave us cats so we would never think too highly of ourselves.

Sorry to hear that...I had to let go of my Main Coon cat due to cancer this spring...I hated it even though I know, being HIV positive, the shelter would have put him down years ago if I hadn't have insisted they let me adopt him. Amazing how animals can affect us do deeply.

I can't say I've see many union stickers on foreign nameplates; most of the transplant nameplates are not only not unionized but the workers want nothing to do with the UAW and most "foreign" nameplates have more domestic content than the "American" car companies (and most models of "foreign" vehicles are made in the U.S.I am, perhaps as or more passionate about cars as I am firearms and there are a lot of car nuts who still want to believe that the American car companies of today are the same as they were 50 years ago...it just isn't true; not that many will accept that.

All companies do not take government money and more to the point, what GM did went a hell of long way beyond getting a loan; the government now owns a huge share of the company and it's unlikely that the taxpayer will ever be made whole on that deal.Where did you get that idea that they were forced? GM was broke a LONG time before the government stepped in; the only thing keeping them afloat for years was their mammoth size and the fact that people were still buying high-margin trucks and SUVs...once that marked dried up their real weakness was exposed. The government simply didn't have the power to "force" GM to take their money nor force it to go through a sham bankruptcy. GM made those decisions at the expense of taxpayers, stockholders and bond holders. If we must remember something then I suggest that we remember that were it not for the government and General Electric (which at this point might as well be a government agency for Obama); GM would be bankrupt yet again even with all the taxpayer money already given to them and the sham bankruptcy. I'm sure some would but it was wrong for the government to step in and the taxpayer will still pay the bills; complaining can't change that. All the bailouts, including those of GWB were antithetical to free enterprise.

Yeah; just like Government Motors; the government bailed out Ford's union contracts and the government owns tens of thousands of shares of Ford stock and the government appointed Ford's CEO and the government allowed Ford to go through 'bankruptcy" without any of the consequences and that Ford can't make a real profit without the government and General Electric buying its product and that Ford has paid back its tiny loan with other money given to it by the government and... Oh wait.... None of that happened.