RobertNashville

[quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1352308232' post='841071']...If the GOP remains the party of the angry old white man it is DOOMED.[/quote] [size=4][font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]It is doomed. The voters don’t give a #### that things are bad under Obama because Obama promised them free stuff; the stuff Republicans say you have to work for. Of course they are going to choose free stuff. What some are suggesting is for the Republican party to look more like the Democratic party and have a "big tent" with maybe some fiscal discipline thrown in – well, we already have the Democratic party; we don’t need the Democratic-lite party. Maybe if a balanced budget is all a person thinks really matters that "lite" idea works for them but it sure as hell doesn’t work for me and I want no part of it.[/font][/size]

[quote name='Pat' timestamp='1352300887' post='840992']...Well, I like your positive look, OS. She's quite the looker. Who cares about the election, we got to see Megyn Kelly [i]walk[/i]![/quote]Megan is really hot and did you see those heals she was wearing!!! It was one bright spot in a dismal evening.

[quote name='K191145' timestamp='1352299565' post='840983'] Another AWB would take major legislation that would have to pass the house and senate, he can't ban anything through executive decision like that, only third world dictators rule that way and if he got away with abusing that much power then it's definatly time for a major rebellion in the country. [/quote]That's true...he can't do something like that with an executive order just like he can't fundamentally change the welfare to work law with the stroke of a pen (a law that even specifically ally says it cannot be changed that way)...oh wait

[quote name='sigmtnman' timestamp='1352303252' post='841017'] so, I was OCing at the Turkey Creek CFA the other day... [/quote]Thanks for giving me at least a small smile this morning.

[quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1352307065' post='841054'] And keeping the real issues in front of the people. Keep the druken uncles off of the television talking about gays and rape. More time was spent on those issues than talking about the economy, energy and the dead ambassordor. [/quote]Yeah...right...the Repubs lost because too many people talk about gays and rape. All the Republicans need to do is to look just like the Democratic party and all will be well with the world.

[quote name='Flatwoods Forge' timestamp='1352305101' post='841033']You are correct it is my opinion. I don't ask or expect anyone else to agree with it. It comes from my experiences in over 20 states of this country, plus experience in several other countries....[/quote] When I was 24, as your profile indicates you are now, I was about six years into eight years of active duty USN...I made some pretty all-encompassing assumptions because I thought I knew a lot about the world. I was wrong.

[quote name='mikegideon' timestamp='1352304738' post='841031'] So... it's over. [/quote]Well, I see no end of $trillion annual deficits for as far out into the future as anybody wants to look...all the social programs consuming the country's wealth are completely unsustainable and not a single politician, least of all the socialist in chief, are willing to do anything about it. We won't protect our borders and we won't even protect Americans abroad...we have more people riding in the wagon than pulling it...yeah...I'd say the grand experiment is over. Even putting all other issues aside, no country can continue on the financial road we are on without going over the financial cliff; the number simply don't work and no amount of manipulating the numbers will change the inevitable. One tiny change in any one of a number of factors could make it happen...I don't know how long we can hold on but there will come a day when it happens and when it does happen I believe it will happen with a swiftness than few can comprehend. I hope people are preparing...storing food, guns, ammunition and the basics of life because those things will either be extremely difficult to find or impossible to afford if you do find them. When the financial collapse happens things will get pretty ugly. God...I truly hope and pray that I'm wrong. Eventually, the country will probably recover...what it will look like I've no idea but, like you, I'm old...I seriously doubt I'll be around long enough to see that part of it.

[quote name='mikegideon' timestamp='1352303986' post='841025'] Didn't they both replace liberals? Never mind. I'll just give up and let 'em have it. I'm old. [/quote]Yes they did so they didn't change the overall makeup of the court. However, the Republicans in the Senate couldn't get GWBs nominations through even when they were the majority and I've see absolutely nothing in the years since that would indicate to me that they have the will to do anyting to oppose this president. Elections have consequences; a liberal court packed with a majority of justices who think the Constitution is a living thing that needs to be reinterpreted (or even ignored in favor of more "enlightened" laws from other countries) is one of those consequences we now will face and I respectfully suggest, Mike, that any faith in the Senate to stop it is misplaced...oh they may bluster and him and haw and make some noise but in the end, they'll fold like the spineless piles of crap they are.

[quote name='Erik88' timestamp='1352290960' post='840895'] Well, it looks like those "biased polls" were right all along. I can't say I'm surprised. Perhaps the GOP will be a better candidate next time who people actually like though I don't think Jesus Christ himself could have surpassed Obummer in this election. We can sit here and bitch and moan for 4 years or we can accept the fact that Obama is our president and just pray things don't get worse. I'm not going to live my life in fear because everyone on this site claims the sky is falling. Let's try to stay positive.[/quote] It isn't fear for me; it's rational thought based on a few decades of paying attention...my generation has failed the generations behind, like the one you are part of...I'm sorry about that...it wasn't me personally as I did what I could do but it obviously wasn't enough. As a group, the takers who are dependent on the teat of Uncle Sam is only going to get larger between now and 2016; I don't know what "better candidate" is going to overcome that unless he/she promises exactly the same government milk the Democrats have been putting out since the 1960s...by the time Obamacare really kicks in there will be nothing left of freedom and liberty except as etchings on stone buildings. Won't get worse? You mean the communist in chief will agree to only add $1.2 Trillion to the debt every year instead of $1.25 Trillion while the House Republicans pats themselves on the back for "holding the line" on spending and taxes??? Maybe we'll go over the cliff and people will start dumpster diving (like they are doing in Greece now) two months later than we would have otherwise.

I don't know where some of you folks are getting the idea that the GOP is suddenly going to grow a brain or a pair and care how 2% of the population voted...maybe you all had more JD than I did last night but I don't see it happening. I've followed the Republican party for nearly 50 years and I've NEVER seen it be truly different than it is today. More to the point, if it takes giving millions of criminals citizenship to get the "Hispanic vote" or being okay with killing babies in the womb to get unmarried whores who are too lazy or too stupid to use birth control or saying telling the masses that they can do any damn drug they want so long as we can tax it or telling homosexuals that they can marry anyone or anything they want then I don't want anything to do with such a party...if I was okay with all that #### I'd just be a democrat.

[quote name='TrickyNicky' timestamp='1352291528' post='840901']I do think we're in it bad but have to agree with Erik88 here. The only way through this is with our chins up.[/quote] No, there is another way. We can join the takers. It was proven last night that more people want Other People's money than want freedom and liberty or anything close to financial responsibility so maybe it's time to join the majority and just get whatever we can get and to hell with the rest of the country.

[quote name='mikegideon' timestamp='1352274158' post='840866'] They'll filibuster a tree trimming contract in a national park. Why wouldn't they stop something as big as a bad appointment?[/quote] I guess you mean like they filibustered the last two Constitution hating appointments, correct?

[quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1352262896' post='840758'] Good point. Now, the GOP has got to examine itself. The demographics are going to continue to change and the GOP is going have to make women and minorities feel welcomed into the party. I'm not saying give up core beliefs or values. I'm saying make all Americans feel welcomed into the party, stop the gay bashing, hate only those who warrant hatred, and stay out of a woman's bloomers. ECONOMY, SECURITY AND EDUCATION will equal PROSPERITY! [/quote] Yeah...because all the somebody elses got 1/4% of the vote, the Republicans are going to take notice and suddenly become the libertarian party the libertarian party wanted to be. I don't know what you are drinking but I'd like to have some; it must be really good stuff...all I've got here is JD.

[quote name='mikegideon' timestamp='1352263015' post='840760'] The senate can filibuster an appointment. [/quote] What evidence have you seen to suggest that there are enough Senators with the balls to do so??? Some may bluster but the R's didn't have the guts to stand up against the D's when the R's had the majority and a R president; if anything, those idiots have even less of a backbone than the House.

Ohio was just called for Obama a few minutes ago...baring a true miracle, the communist who hates America and doesn't give a #### about the Constitution will get four more years. For months now, quite a few folks here have complained that Romney wasn’t “this” or wasn’t “that” or wasn’t Ron Paul or wasn’t substantially different from Obama, etc., etc., and while Tennessee strongly went for Romney; it looks like those who didn’t want Romney to win will get their wish. Obama will likely get to nominate two and maybe as many as four anti-gun and for that matter, anti-Constitution Supreme Court justices…he’ll get to keep spending trillions of dollars we don’t have to give away, to those who don’t work, the stuff we work our ass off to provide for our family….his bureaucrats will get to decide if we are important enough to society to get cancer treatment or just get some pain pills and told to go home…we’ll get to pay more for gasoline and food and what kind of light bulbs we are allowed to have and it won’t be long until what was the United States looks exactly like Spain and Italy and France and every other bankrupt European country. I guess we simply no longer have a country of people who are willing to work for what they have; rather, we simply have a country filled with people who think they are entitled simply because they haven’t assumed room temperature. Maybe the house will grow a backbone and stop some of what Obama wants to do but I don't think they have the balls to do it.

As I shared a few days ago in a similar thread, I get denied with about every third time I buy a new gun...I've got an "arrest" on my record that was dismissed (this is from 1988 or so) but for some reason, only the "arrest" shows up when they run my name so inevitably, I end up submitting the info that shows that the charge was dismissed and that I don't have a 20+ year felony charge open against me. This same issue came up when I got my HCP but what is more odd is that none of the transactions I did before I got my HCP were ever denied even though the "arrest" must still have been on my record.

Funny isn't it, how something that didn't even exist 20 years ago is now so important that taxpayers now have to pay so everyone can have one???

[quote name='JAB' timestamp='1352240806' post='840354'] I really don't understand why everyone is insisting that a vote for anyone other than Rombama or Obomney is a 'protest vote'. Do people not understand voting one's convictions, anymore? Is it really that hard to grasp that some people might vote for the person that they think would actually be the best candidate rather than simply voting for one or the other side of the same, old, plug nickel or else voting only in 'protest'? If so then none of this really matters because the spirit and ideology this country is supposed to be built upon is already lost. [/quote]I really don't understand why you don't understand.

Frankly, I think I'm going to head over to Nashville Armory to do a little plinking with a brand new Ruger SR22 I just picked up last week then hang out a bit in the lounge for a few minutes to see what they are saying on the news before heading home - a little practice seems like a good idea no matter who wins, albeit perhaps for different reasons.

[quote name='mcurrier' timestamp='1352237938' post='840316'] It shouldn't be. [/quote]I don't think there is any law about one way or the other but I seem to recall that most news organizations agreed to hold results until after the polls closed in, at least, the western states. I lived in the Seattle area back when the peanut farmer won and the networks were announcing him as the winner (and he may even have made his victory speech) quite a while before the polls even closed in Washington and I think there was quite an outcry from Washington, California, etc which caused the networks to change their policies.

[quote name='OhShoot' timestamp='1352238185' post='840318'] I don't know if any still have statutes on the book, but the Supreme Court ruled in 2011 that taping public interactions with police is a right protected under the 1A. Not researching it, bu I think it was was maybe Boston and somewhere in Michigan wound up paying substantial damages for arresting someone for it, too. - OS [/quote]Probably right....I can't say it's anything I've followed; just remember news stories I've heard in passing.

[quote name='OhShoot' timestamp='1352231943' post='840219'] Close. About 55% probably will. - OS [/quote]In 2010, 90,732,693 voted out of a total of 217,342,419 eligible voters so that works out to about 41.7%...in 2008 it was 62.2%...I guess we'll see what happens this time! Interesting stuff here: http://elections.gmu.edu/index.html

I'm pretty sure that at least in some states now, it is illegal for a citizen to video/audio record a police officer at all...I guess that's what some cities think is an appropriate response to lawsuits.

[quote name='Flatwoods Forge' timestamp='1352236155' post='840291']...Doesnt really matter who wins or loses this time, all we are doing is voting the lesser of two evils.[/quote] I'm really sick to death of hearing the parroted phrase "lessor of two evils" as if it actually means something ...putting policy/political differences aside, I see nothing in Romney's life that justifies labeling him as "evil".

[quote name='S&WForty' timestamp='1352234788' post='840268']Nobody reads books no more...[/quote] Unfortunately that's true and I see evidence of it almost every day and just about everywhere.