RobertNashville

Really?  I guess I've been in the "last days" for a few decades now because I've encountered much stupidity and rumors of the same for most of my adult life.

Well; I guess I'll just have to continue to not understand. :shrug:   No one is being taken advantage of...there have been times I've paid more for something than it was worth to someone else because I wanted it and was willing to do so...the sellers were not taking advantage of me because I wasn't and no on is being forced to buy anything from anyone so I simply don't see the problem.   People asking what they want for an item and someone paying what they are willing to pay is about as "free market" as you can get and I don't see why that should bother anyone.

I don't get it - unless someone is forcing you to buy it, why is their asking price a problem for you or anyone?

Frankly, it seems to me that what anyone sells a firearm or accessory for ($$$) is the business of only the buyer and the seller.   I can't speak for everyone but I try to see things at a fair price; when it's a firearm I use the BB as well as the MSRP and usual retail for new of the same model to help set the price.   I've never understood why some feel they need or have any business complaining about the price someone wants for something...if something is overpriced then just don't buy it...problem solved!

I felt pretty much the same way but now that I've been on it for a couple of years, I've found it to be an excellent way to find and keep in touch with people I lost contact with over the years including high school friends, Navy shipmates, extended family, etc...it's also great for providing info for the various car clubs I belong to.   All it all, I think Facebook is a good tool.

All the "pro-2A pages/groups, etc on Facebook I belong to are just fine (I checked when I first heard of this story) but more to the point, Facebook can do whatever its owners/management wants to do. I don't like it but they still have the right to do it if this is actually happening at all.   Whatever pages may or may not be shutdown by Facebook; I suspect there is more going on than those pages simply being "pro-2A".

My company also received a loan for EV development and for building a brand new plant and re-tooling of a production line in Tennessee.  My company's loan has to be paid back with real money as I'm sure Ford's loans must be too. My problem with GM goes far beyond the "bailout" money which may or may not be repaid (in whole or in part); it has a lot more to do with the so-called "bankruptcy" (which wasn't one) and the extremely favorable treatment for the UAW at the detriment to GM's shareholders and bondholders plus the Federal Government buying stock which it will not sell at a loss.  Of course, the fact that the stock is cheep should surprise no one given that the pretend bankruptcy solved NONE of GM's underlying problems that still exist today...I suspect it's only a matter of time before GM is back at the government feeding trough.  

As a retiree of a major manufacturer (corporate finance); I can attest that it was not "luck".  I was paying attention then because it was my job to do so...Ford made some wise business decisions based on data that everyone could see but that Ford acted on.  GM's problem was that they were so far down the road to insolvency; after decades of poor financial and product decisions, that it was almost certainly too late for them even if they wanted to do what Ford did.

My first car was a brand new 1973 Pontiac Formula 400 Firebird...my next three new vehicles was a '75 Olds Cutlas, a '76 Trans Am and a '79 Trans Am plus a few other trucks and cars, all GM in the mix...my last GM product was a '00 Z28.   I came from a "GM family"...that was all we drove, Chevy, Pontiac, Olds, and Cadillac...but I'll never, NEVER buy another GM product again...I'll walk or use my bicycle before I'll spend another dime with Government Motors and feel almost as strongly about Chrysler as well (but then I've never been a big Chrysler fan).

The Federal Government, mostly at the behest of the auto unions, placed such large tariffs on foreign cars that it became much less expensive to build plants here; Honda was first followed by almost every major manufacturer.  And...they mostly came to right-to-work states meaning their labor was less expensive than the (former) "Big Three".   So...to protect the domestic auto industry (and the UAW); the government effectively drove a stake through their heart...a fine example of unintended consequences.

Did anybody ever find out what the hell club/range is being talked about or are we just supposed to guess???   Simple advice; if something cost more than you are willing to pay or cost more then you think it's worth then don't buy it...seems pretty simple to me.  :shrug:

No matter how you slice it, almost everyone is going to get screwed;  higher taxes, smaller paychecks, and higher prices for just about everything we buy and the Republicans will get the majority of the blame for it pretty much regardless of what they do or don't do thanks in no small part to a media that refuses to tell the truth.   If the media would simply report the truth about our "recovery" and the higher prices we already pay for food and other essentials people would be on the Capitol steps and the gates to the White House right now demanding the head of every one in office.   I'm expecting the worse...a "deal" that is far worse than the "fiscal cliff" could ever be followed by the real fiscal meltdown that everyone in office hopes doesn't happen until they have retired with enough real assets to live well.

I'm not going to worry about or lose one moment of sleep over this stupid "fiscal cliff". All the talk of "cuts" are nothing but hogwash anyway. There hasn't been an actual "cut" in spending in WDC in decades. All they ever "cut" is reduction of what they WANTED to spend but they still keep spending more than the year before and then more than the year before.  Besides, we all know that Speaker Boehner and the other Republicrats are going to fold and feed us bull shit while patting themselves on the back about how they held the line on spending and taxes. It is all going to come crashing down; it's just "when" that is the unknown...maybe it will be no longer pricing oil in dollars...maybe it will be interest rates rising to normal levels...maybe it will be something else but the house of cards that have been building since at least the early 60s and the frantic building of the last four years IS going to come crashing down on our heads.   I'm sorry that this is going to hurt some good people...real people who do necessary and even vital work for the federal government but it's going to hurt everyone no matter who they work for or if they work at all (likely in ways that most people haven't even imagined yet) but these seeds were sown many years ago and the crop is about to come in.

This one might be worth reading as well... http://jpfo.org/articles-assd02/obama-guns-hypocrisy-01.htm

It isn't the NRA's fault if a lot of its members are being stupid on this point. We have a lot of "gun people" who see nothing wrong with many of the infringements that make others of us cringe. ;0

I realize that speculation and conjecture; especially based on incomplete (and often totally lacking facts) is something we do constantly here on TGO  : ) but does anyone really think we know enough to even begin to formulate a rational answer to the original question?  I don't know what is going to happen but one thing I'm not going to do is go into a panic about what may come.   I think the most prudent thing to do right now is, if you aren't already a member, join every pro-2A/pro-firearm group you can find and send extra money to their legislative action committees/PACs.  Start writing to your congressmen and senators (even if they don't want to listen they need to know how their constituents feel and have a little political fear put in their hearts).

I have an FNH AR10 and love it...never thought the lack of iron sights to be a problem although I understand why that would be important to others. My only complaint with it and it isn't much of one, is that it's not as easy to take down and clean as my SCAR...other than that it's unbelievably accurate and a ball to shoot.  :)

Actually, it depends on where you are as I have bicycled in some states where it is legal (because it's necessary) to bicycle on the interstate.   Now, it's been a while...things may have changed and also, I never encountered that where there were plenty of roads available that a bicyclist could use but I have seen it. The states seem to have a good bit of leeway about such things

I'm sure it's happened but I'd suspect it's fairly rare. Even when it does, I really don't think they are going to give you a lot of trouble unless there is something more substantial to connect you to the crime.  Obviously, if you ever have a firearm stolen, report it...other than that the simple fact that a weapon you once owned, maybe years ago, turns up at a crime scene I don't think is enough to get worried about...it would be a scary situation to be sure but I am not going to lose sleep over something that could happen some day that I can't do anything about anyway.   Then again, I'm and old fart so all that bad stuff that could happen is running out of time to make its move. ;)

I wasn't really talking about DNA  but that too. :)   For LEO in TN to require blood of a driver under arrested for DUI without a warrant (I believe they've always been able to draw blood with a warrant) the driver must either already have a prior DUI conviction or there must be at least one child under 16 years of age is in the vehicle at the time of the arrest.   Now, if you have a new baby in your vehicle and an officer believers you may be impaired then yes, he can require a blood test but if you aren't drinking or aren't acting like you are impaired then I truly believe the chance of running into an officer who is going to do this is pretty remote. Further, if you haven't been drinking then a blood test will show that won't it?   I think some of us really is venturing a bit too far into tin foil hat time...there have ALWAYS been some bad cops out there but most of them aren't and I don't think we need to spend a lot of time worrying about those few who are...besides, what can you do about it anyway; it's like being overly worried about being struck by lightning. ;)

Well, I think they will stick.   I'm not going to feel sorry for this guy; not because he's an anti-gun nut but because I don't generally feel sorry for morons whether they are pro-guns or anti-guns.   As for the potential cost of a bondsman and an  attorney and missed work...all that is truly unfortunate if one is innocent and did absolutely nothing wrong.  On the other hand, if you can't afford to pay your own bond (and need to use a bondsman) or can't really afford an attorney or to miss work then maybe you shouldn't illegally operate a motor vehicle to drive to a mall, then cause a disturbance by wearing a t-shirt he knew would be offensive (and intended it to be) and then compound all that by refusing to leave when properly demanded he do so.   He's a moron.   There are ways to demonstrate your opinion about issues....his chosen method is NOT one of them, at least not one of them protected by the Constitution.

I never said they wouldn't try or that they aren't required to try, but I think you are giving the federal government and local law enforcement credit for more competency than they deserve. ;)   Right now, the federal forms can only tie a weapon to the original buyer. Once a weapon has been sold by private parties once or twice or three or more times, even if some of those transactions have records, finding the people and finding the records, assuming any exist, is not going to be that easy. :)   There are ways for them to fine out of course...if people freely give information about specific weapons (some even list SNs) on forums like this then data mining can find that and eventually find "you"....likewise, such as in my case, I'm sure that if LE got a warrant for it my insurance would have to provide a list of everything I've insured;  however, they would already have to be looking my way before they would even be able to formulate that question!   Of course, if they outlaw all PP sales or even re-class all or most semi-automatic weapons under the NFA then things are going to be much different!

As I was just discussing with a fellow TGOer this afternoon, and something worth keeping in mind, if you buy a new firearm and the transaction is done through an FFL/background check for whatever reason (purchasing directly from the FFL or interstate transaction or whatever) then there is a record of that transaction. However whether and how and for how long that record is preserved and  how accessible it is likely varies.  I'd say that given the number of transactions over the decades that records have been kept by anyone, finding out who bought what when would be a pretty monumental task.   More importantly, as far as I know, no one is required to keep a record of a firearm transaction between private parties so any weapons you bought that way or sold that way is likely not recorded by anyone. I keep a record of what I buy and sell for my own purposes but no one but me knows where those records are or has access to them. Even if someday, a firearm I bought 30 years ago and sold 20 years ago is ever used in a crime, I seriously doubt anybody is going to show up on my doorstep asking about the gun as I think that original transaction, though a record "exists" somewhere, has been lost to obscurity.

Not sure how we suddenly got to open carry but other than wanting it to be true, I see no logical reason to think that openly carrying will result in better carry laws or serve to get people used to it.  In fact, I suspect the result would be the exact opposite of that.   I'd say most people are still trying to "get used" to people carrying at all because people routinely carrying weapons in most parts of the country was not part of societal experience for many decades until things started to very slowly turn around about 25 years ago.

No, that is not "right"...you might want to read the actual law posted above.