Alleycat72

I put it on Silencer Talk

I use my carry gun. 10mm Kimber. Nothing will give you more confidence in your carry gun than popping a deer at 50 yards. The eye opener was the full penetration I got with my carry ammunition. I've also hunted with a 454 and a 260 XP100, but nothing beats the gun I have on my side everyday.

So your saying a trust is at least 2 days faster. I'm just messing with you. I've had the same examiner every time on my form 4s (Rob Howard/Nancy Flannigan) My form 1s (Dawn Henson/A Lamburger). I've been pleased with them.

When confronted with a life and death situation, it's obvious some of the members here would be dead and others would have a fighting chance. I have had to draw my weapon twice where I had to point it at someone. One was a guy that set me up for a robbery in a bad area of west Nashville. It is a sobering experience. I had to use deadly force once(He lived I did not have a gun). You will question whether you did the right thing or not regardless of how right you are. I was handcuffed immediately. After hearing the witness statements the cops uncuffed me and let me go and told me I did the right thing. I was 17 and it is impossible to convey how I felt. He plead guilty and did not pursue litigation against me so he received a lighter sentence. If pulling my gun will deescalate a potentially deadly situation it's getting pulled. If it cost me my gun and my handgun permit that's fine. It's much better than spending the rest of my life wondering if I could have done something to save my wife or my daughter. The only good thing from my experiences was that I know that I won't freeze up at a critical time. You never think you will, but you never know until something like this happens. As far as shooting into a car when someone is trying to run you down. Yes get out of the way, but cars have these things called steering wheels and bad guys will use this devise to alter the course of the car to match you escape route. He can't do this if he is dodging bullets or incapacitated. Again wife and kids first. Me second. The OP was prepared. Good for him. His girlfriend knows he will protect his loved ones. Again, good for him.

It's not really a myth. I have never been able to get my paperwork signed, fingerprinted, and mailed on the same day I picked the forms up. The Sheriff is not always in and it sometimes takes a couple days to get it back. The FBI has had holdups on fingerprint cards on their end. I had a problem with my second transfer because of fingerprint cards that added 9 days. It does not save you months but it does save you days or weeks. I have heard of people trying to shop examiners to save time, but I don't know how fruitful that is. Their sharing the workload and you are not guaranteed to get the same examiner as usual for a given class 3. If you need it for a class tell your dealer and offer to pay for him to go through the same class. He can bring the suppressor to class and let you use it as long as he can take possession at any time. After the class he will simply take it back to the gun shop. The biggest issue of wait time will be the examiner you get. I just sent in two form 4s today filed as an individual. So hopefully in May I'll be heavy two more NFA items.

Nope. The fastest way is to go the trust route and buy from a stocking dealer in state. The ATF takes 2 to 5 months. Buying from an out of state stocking dealer will add 3 weeks to a month to that. If you buy from a manufacturer it could take several extra months depending on the manufacturing schedule. Doing a trust will save you a little time because the ATF will not have to wait on the FBI to process fingerprint cards.

Flexbar: ROCKSETT,4 OZ Rocksett.

AAC, AWC, and SWR make good stuff. I just ordered a AAC cyclone from Major Malfunction at a hefty discount. Call him he will give you a no bull**** assessment of the suppressors you are interested in. Suppressor companies give a good discount to dealers that order large amounts(10 or more) Some dealer's only carry one brand and will push that suppressor. Talk to more than one guy on this. Your dealer may be a 100% straight up guy, but a 4 month wait+$200 stamp+ $700-$1000 you don't want to be disappointed. Get on :: Index and read. It leans a little towards AAC, but most all of the suppressor manufacturers are on there. You get to talk to the guys that run or own the companies. There is some drama in the NFA world with Gemtech. Don't let it discourage you. They're not bad suppressors, but some will not buy them on principle. MAJOR MALFUNCTION - Class 3 III NFA dealer - suppressor / silencer sales Integrals are QUITET, but you can't move it from gun to gun. Most .22 pistol integrals come apart so cleaning is EZ. Center fire rifles are a different story. They are quiet, but they are usually SBR with the suppressor pined or welded on so that it can be a one stamp gun. Cleaning the gun can be tricky. Ever dropped a patch off the end of the rod.

.22 mag/20 Gauge

So when a bad guy, coyote, groundhog is hit at 600 yards with 5.56 does he feel it? Or does it bounce of like sleet? I think you would be hard pressed to find someone to stand in front of one at 401 yards

Yes. shot at more than once. Hit once. I typed the whole story, but deleted it. I have never heard anyone adequately explain the sensation. Red hot sledge hammer is the closest, but not entirely correct.

I wouldn't want to get shot by someone I did know was in the tree. That hurts.

Take the stand. Leave a laminated letter with your contact information. If it's an honest mistake he will contact you and you will know who he is. If not you have a new stand. Your contact info has to be on the no hunting sign, but this lets him know you have it instead of a trespasser.

Reddot. Scopes - rifle scopes, handgun scopes, hunting scopes by Burris Optics

I have a Remington 1911, but it saw action in Korea

6.5x284 140 Berger Bullet .640 BC A 6mm with some 107s or 105s with the appropriate twist will do great as well, but I'm partial to the 6.5s One of the guys that shoots with us uses a 243 with a Nesika action. He keeps up with us to 800 yards. The gun will keep up with us much farther. Broughton Barrels are the barrels we use to shoot out to 1000 yards. We have never had a bad one. Hart makes a good barrel, but I got a hold of one that did not do so well. Broughton Rifle Barrels by North Manufacturing Co., Inc. Leupold custom shop will put a custom radical that matches your bullets ballistics. It is free in some scopes, about $35 for others, if you order the scope from Leupold. What ever caliber you choose shoot it first, Get a good load, and chronograph it. Send the information to Leupold and they will set you up. With that and a rangefinder all you will have to worry about is wind and temperature variation. They will only run you out to 500 yds, but that's your limit so you're good to go. They will put turret with drop compensation on them, but It not easy to use in a stressful situation. https://customshop.leupold.com/custom_shop.php As for stocks I have used laminates and synthetics. McMillan is a good stock, but it is not cheap. An HS or a good Hogue will shoot just as well. Don't skimp on the optics and the mounts. You also don't have to shell out 2000+ to do what you want to do. I use a 4.5x14. The other guys use 20 and 25 power, but the more power you have the less field of view and shooting critters is a lot different then shooting targets.

I got mine about 15 years ago. My last renewal took about 3 1/2 months.

If you're in Nashville you may have been justified. Nolensville road Wal-mart is Indian country. I had to go through two or three people to get one that spoke English.

I got my daughter a pink .22 when she was 4. She does not like it much. She does however love the suppressed SSK 300 Whisper AR. She is six now and loves to knock steel silhouettes at 100 yds. I have a Suppressed MK II she likes to shoot as well. The big thing is the noise that scared her. She gets suppressor + hearing protection = no sound. She likes to shoot what daddy shoots so there has been problems. I put a SBR together and she thinks it's just her big, but it's a 458 Socom. I had to explain that she would have to wait a wile. She decided she could shoot it when she turns 16. My wife and I exposed her to guns as soon as possible. She will ask to see a gun in the safe from time to time and I have never said no. She knows not to ever touch them with out me or her mother, but all she has to do is ask. She also sees me put my handgun on every day so guns are not the magical kid magnet to her. You need a lot of patients with them, but it pays off. I would start her off with a .22 and some Aguila Super Colibi. The Crickett guns are hard to load so its a good starter gun. They shoot good too. The best part is that all the little boys in her class are a bit intimidated by her shooting skill. If I can keep it that way till she's say 40 I'll be happy

Name: 223 Ballistic Coeff: 0.272 Bullet Weight: 55 Velocity: 3100 Target Distance: 100 Scope Height: 2.000 Temperature: 60 Altitude: 600 Ballistic Data ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Range Elevation Velocity Energy ETA 0 yds -2.00 in 3100 fps 1174 fpe 0.000 sec 25 yds -1.13 in 3011 fps 1107 fpe 0.024 sec 50 yds -0.49 in 2925 fps 1045 fpe 0.050 sec 75 yds -0.11 in 2840 fps 985 fpe 0.076 sec 100 yds 0.00 in 2756 fps 928 fpe 0.103 sec 125 yds -0.18 in 2675 fps 874 fpe 0.130 sec 150 yds -0.66 in 2594 fps 822 fpe 0.159 sec 175 yds -1.45 in 2515 fps 773 fpe 0.188 sec 200 yds -2.59 in 2438 fps 726 fpe 0.218 sec 225 yds -4.09 in 2362 fps 681 fpe 0.249 sec 250 yds -6.00 in 2287 fps 639 fpe 0.282 sec 275 yds -8.33 in 2213 fps 598 fpe 0.315 sec 300 yds -11.10 in 2141 fps 560 fpe 0.350 sec 325 yds -14.33 in 2070 fps 523 fpe 0.385 sec 350 yds -18.03 in 2001 fps 489 fpe 0.422 sec 375 yds -22.27 in 1932 fps 456 fpe 0.460 sec 400 yds -27.10 in 1866 fps 425 fpe 0.499 sec 425 yds -32.63 in 1801 fps 396 fpe 0.540 sec 450 yds -38.88 in 1738 fps 369 fpe 0.583 sec 475 yds -45.87 in 1677 fps 343 fpe 0.627 sec 500 yds -53.62 in 1617 fps 319 fpe 0.673 sec Name: 223 Ballistic Coeff: 0.272 Bullet Weight: 55 Velocity: 3100 Target Distance: 200 Scope Height: 2.000 Temperature: 60 Altitude: 600 Ballistic Data ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Range Elevation Velocity Energy ETA 0 yds -2.00 in 3100 fps 1174 fpe 0.000 sec 25 yds -0.80 in 3011 fps 1107 fpe 0.024 sec 50 yds 0.16 in 2925 fps 1045 fpe 0.050 sec 75 yds 0.86 in 2840 fps 985 fpe 0.076 sec 100 yds 1.29 in 2756 fps 928 fpe 0.103 sec 125 yds 1.44 in 2675 fps 874 fpe 0.130 sec 150 yds 1.28 in 2594 fps 822 fpe 0.159 sec 175 yds 0.81 in 2515 fps 773 fpe 0.188 sec 200 yds 0.00 in 2438 fps 726 fpe 0.218 sec 225 yds -1.18 in 2362 fps 681 fpe 0.249 sec 250 yds -2.76 in 2287 fps 639 fpe 0.282 sec 275 yds -4.77 in 2213 fps 598 fpe 0.315 sec 300 yds -7.22 in 2141 fps 560 fpe 0.350 sec 325 yds -10.12 in 2070 fps 523 fpe 0.385 sec 350 yds -13.50 in 2001 fps 489 fpe 0.422 sec 375 yds -17.41 in 1932 fps 456 fpe 0.460 sec 400 yds -21.92 in 1866 fps 425 fpe 0.499 sec 425 yds -27.13 in 1801 fps 396 fpe 0.540 sec 450 yds -33.06 in 1738 fps 369 fpe 0.583 sec 475 yds -39.72 in 1677 fps 343 fpe 0.627 sec 500 yds -47.15 in 1617 fps 319 fpe 0.673 sec Name: 223 Ballistic Coeff: 0.272 Bullet Weight: 55 Velocity: 3100 Target Distance: 300 Scope Height: 2.000 Temperature: 60 Altitude: 600 Ballistic Data ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Range Elevation Velocity Energy ETA 0 yds -2.00 in 3100 fps 1174 fpe 0.000 sec 25 yds -0.20 in 3011 fps 1107 fpe 0.024 sec 50 yds 1.36 in 2925 fps 1045 fpe 0.050 sec 75 yds 2.67 in 2840 fps 985 fpe 0.076 sec 100 yds 3.70 in 2756 fps 928 fpe 0.103 sec 125 yds 4.45 in 2675 fps 874 fpe 0.130 sec 150 yds 4.89 in 2594 fps 822 fpe 0.159 sec 175 yds 5.02 in 2515 fps 773 fpe 0.188 sec 200 yds 4.81 in 2438 fps 726 fpe 0.218 sec 225 yds 4.23 in 2362 fps 681 fpe 0.249 sec 250 yds 3.25 in 2287 fps 639 fpe 0.282 sec 275 yds 1.85 in 2213 fps 598 fpe 0.315 sec 300 yds 0.00 in 2141 fps 560 fpe 0.350 sec 325 yds -2.30 in 2070 fps 523 fpe 0.385 sec 350 yds -5.08 in 2001 fps 489 fpe 0.422 sec 375 yds -8.39 in 1932 fps 456 fpe 0.460 sec 400 yds -12.30 in 1866 fps 425 fpe 0.499 sec 425 yds -16.91 in 1801 fps 396 fpe 0.540 sec 450 yds -22.23 in 1738 fps 369 fpe 0.583 sec 475 yds -28.30 in 1677 fps 343 fpe 0.627 sec 500 yds -35.12 in 1617 fps 319 fpe 0.673 sec

If you get the .50 let me know. I maybe able to set you up with some shots out to 1100 yards around Columbia.

Longshot and 180 XTP @ 1300 fps is good for me

I put a YHM Wraith and a Pride Fowler scope. Quiet and 200 yards of drop compensation. My crow Popper

I shoot a Kimber Eclipse Custom II. I loaded 500 rounds for hunting and play and got 100 rounds of Winchester 175 silvertips for carry. It shoots unbelievably well. I took It hunting yesterday so I could test the effectiveness of my carry ammo and got a surprise. I shot a 150 lb doe at 20 yds and got full penetration. Not what I expected from personal defense ammo. There was a lot of internal damage. It's got to be a hell of a man stopper. I may need to get a bullet that is a little lighter on the construction.

A lot of thieves are going to cut the safe. I had my safe wired into the security system.