KahrMan

Both my kids learned on a single shot .243. Single shots are great for kids to learn with. They have one shot and have to make it count. I guess this kinda proves your original post. Its really more about placement than caliber.

If your shotgun is collectable, don't reblue it. That will kill the value of it.

+1 Glockster - I agree that all these calibers have enough energy to cleanly take a deer sized animal. I think that the fps and ft-lbs rating are really used to catch us hunters and make us buy new rifles. I think thats why people are so loyal to a certain caliber. Nobody wants to feel like they bought an inadequate caliber. So billy bob now thinks anybody with a smaller caliber doesn't have enough gun and anybody with a larger caliber is just overkill. They now have the perfect combination of fps & ft-lbs. Unfortunately that is not a set figure and will be different for each of us.

The 243 and 270 are roughly the same fps but the 243 has 1945 ft-lbs of energy while the 270 has 2687 ft-lbs. I think people get to caught up in always thinking more is better.

Does the manual you got this info out of also give the energy of the round in ft lbs? That is usually how you judge the effectiveness of a round on deer.

Anybody here like to hunt for sheds? My daughter and I were watching a bachelor group of bucks last night. Two of them had already dropped one antler. There was a really nice 10 pt in the group. Wide and tall. I am going to be looking hard for his sheds.

The P30 is the first HK that feels great in my hand. Congrats on the new gun.

Yeah. I don't keep up with what is coming out very much. I just happen to see an ad for the trailer on ESPN's site.

http://www.startrekmovie.com/ The StarTrek franchise had gotten a little cheesey. This is a prequel. The trailer actually looks pretty good.

That's a helluva deal on a very nice .22 rifle. Cheapest one on Gunbroker is $472 for new not used.

Damn, that looks good.

Go back in the morning and I bet you will find him. It is tough to lose a deer. You owe it to yourself and the deer to do everything you can before you give up. Sometime though you lose one. It sucks but it is part of hunting.

I have an online subscription. Very convenient and easy to use.

From 2009 Blue Book MODEL 92 TYPE M COMPACT - same features as the Model 92FS, except has 4.3 in. barrel, overall height is 5.3 in., Bruniton matte finish, choice of single/double or double action only (disc. 1998), plastic grips, single column 8 shot mag., 30.9 oz. Mfg. 1998-2003. Grading 100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60% $575 $465 $415 $370 $335 $300 $275

I like Bruce Campbell. What was that western show he did awhile back? Something like Briscoe County Jr...

Thats a great show. It is one of my daughter and I favorite shows to watch. Michael looks like he may be a little more edgy, pissed off this season. Good first episode.

Found my Bass Pro Ad. It is a Remington 799 Laminate. It is a nice looking gun. Price after $30 mail in rebate is $369.94.

Bass Pro has one on sale for around $399. I don't remember the model but it was a Remington.

I would say the 30-30 and 30-06 are the two top calibers for deer taken over the last 100 years. Not sure which is #1 though.

DB, I use both apps. They both have their pros and cons. I like iheartradio because the 97.9, the Big 98, is streamed thru it.

I have got 2 sticks of PC2700U 256mb that you are welcome to have. Let me know if you want them.

Thanks.

Do you have pricing yet on the Kahr and Sig?

Joe, Did Kahr have a realistic idea of when the PM380 will be out?

WOW! Beautiful gun. Congrats.