Kenstaroni

+1 on the Neu Trigger, simple part, but well worth the money!

I usually use Krylon camo colors for paint jobs, however I found a Coyote Tan color in Brownell's Aluma Hyde II at my local store. I was able to complete the job over the weekend. I get tired of plain black rifles, so now that I've gotten the barrel threaded, the PWS compensator put on, and have got the rifle broken in I decided to give the FNAR a little face lift. I wanted to sort of mimic the look of my SCAR, however also do something kind of uniqe. The FNAR is sitting on a GG&G lightweight bipod, and also has a Tango Down grip on it that I haven't put back on yet. Glass is a Sightmark 8.5-25x50 Triple Duty scope with Burris X-treme tactical rings. It's becoming one of my favorite .308 rifles I've owned so far. Really light recoil since the addition of the PWS comp, and shoots great groups. I decided against camo on this one as I wanted something more clean and simple. Your feedback is welcome.

I put one on my G27. I liked it because I could put it in my waistband quickly when stopping at gas stations, etc. I didn't carry it with a round in the chamber though....I didn't carry any of my Glocks that way. It did not prevent the use of a Serpa holster either which was nice. I think they are great to have as a backup way to carry. I was concerned about carrying in Georgia because you have to have a holster, however upon further research I found that a clipdraw does count as a holster.

I've had good luck with the Federals....heard nothing but bad things about the Winchesters. I've shot 2k rounds of the Federal 550 bulk packs with no failures what so ever. That was out of a S&W M&P 15-22

I shot Mike's Garand and it's very soft on your shoulder for a 30-06. If someone started me out with a 300 win mag, I probably wouldn't own any rifles now....lol A 300 win mag will get your attention in a hurry...I think it's cool in all to be big and macho and say that you shoot a 300 win mag, however it's just not fun for me.

+1 for a Savage....best bang for your buck....They have an "edge" rifle out right now that's very inexpensive. You could probably get into one with some decent glass for the $500 you're looking to spend. Gun's and Ammo had an article on the edge rifles in last month's issue. You might be able to read it online. I've owned two Savage bolt action .308's and they have preformed great. Both put back to back shots through the same hole at 100 yards on numerous occassions. I've heard the .223's are even more consistent, probably because of the lighter recoil. If you get into re-loading, you can load some heavy grain 69-77 gr ammo that is capable at 500+ yards. It's hard to load the heavy ammo properly in an AR platform due to magazine length, however you can do so in a bolt action by hand loading. I think a bolt rifle .223 is a great place to start. I love the .308 caliber, however I am not oppossed to owning a .223 bolt now that I have gotten more into re-loading. It's cheaper than .308...lol The next step up would be a .308 rifle. You will want to spend at least 500-600 on a .308 rifle to get a Remington 700 or Savage Precision Carbine. BTW Savage makes the Precision Carbine in .223 as well. It has the accustock, accutrigger, and a 20" barrel, all wrapped in a digital camo stock. Pretty cool rifle!

None of us would be as good in that situation because it's not something that you can easily train for. Someone like him who has practiced over and over again and has the muscle memory and instinct that most novice shooters wouldn't have, would likely preform better. That is unless he needs to hear the "beep" before he draws...lol

The blast is so bad because it's on a bullpup rifle. On a 16" or better AR you won't have an issue. It will still be loud, but the gasses will pass in front of your face instead of your face bing caught in the line of dispersion. I have some PWS FSC556 compensators on several rifles. They all worked great and I love them both on .223 and .308 rifles. I put one on my MSAR STG556 bull pup, ran 30 rounds though it and took it off once my headache died down...lol PWS does make a precision compensator for .308 that directs the gas pretty much 90 degrees instead of 30-45 degrees like the FSC30. That may be an option, but I don't think it will solve 100% of the problem on a bullpup.

Some of the Hittenberger is berdan and some is boxer. The boxer is re-loadable. I don't know if the berdan is or not. You might need a special tool to get the primer out. I would think the larger primer is the boxer as most crimped primers are smaller and will have a ring around them instead of being flush with the edges of the primer pocket.

I don't watch CNN, so I didn't know whether or not Lou was still on there....I haven't followed up to check on the current status of the issue, but the simple fact that it was proposed makes me concerned.

As far as I know it is the same other than the threaded barrel, tan slide, raised night sights, and cut out for a doctor red dot. I didn't care about any of those things, so I decided I'd spend $600 instead of $1500 (with doctor sight). It is bad arse looking though!

CNN report on amnesty for illegals. A little dated, but just in case you missed it. I don't believe this bill will get any traction, however it's concerning that it would even be proposed. http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/17260182/1610997888/name/ftc-vi26.wmv

I thought it was a good show, although I thought the number of guns was down from shows at Chilhowee. I was able to pick up a replacement for a recent shotgun I sold, and had enough money left over to buy everything else I needed for re-loading. I ended up finding a guy walking around with a brand new 12ga exactly what I wanted. I saved myself $120 vs. what dealers were selling them for if you factor in tax and background. I guess I took advantage of slow sales that other's have mentioned as I got some great deals on the re-loading stuff. That made it worth it as nobody in Knoxville seems to carry re-loading supplies. Not the best show as far as sales....lots of browsing. With an economy like we have now, these dealers are going to have to realize that people are shopping around more and the days of a room full of suckers have gone and went.

I like the attitude. If you're going to use it then you may as well make is as functional as possible. Many people worry about the durability of guns and never use test the weapon for its intended purpose...lol Glad to see you're willing to actually use one, abuse it, and benefit from a good quality rifle.

Yeah, got two, but I know which dog that came from lol...didn't even notice it in the picture before...lol

I've had one more Savage since then....actually painted this one too...lol

Raoul: From my experience the barrel is usually fine. When it heats up the paint will bake on. The only places I've seen Krylon come off were the muzzle brake and lower reciever, and that was without using any enamel . Anywhere that you let gun cleaner accumulate. If you are careful with cleaners you're fine. I always finished mine with a flat acrylic enamel, so if it's bare paint I can see it wearing with contact from gun cleaners. The nice thing is it's easy to fix if you do mess it up. I recommend either the acrylic with Krylon, or going with a duracoat setup.

I know they own Browning and Winchester...lol....didn't feel like elaborating...just keeping it simple not to confuse the guy....lol....like my FNAR which is a Browning BAR rifle in tacticool clothing...plus a hammer forged barrel among other things... Here's a run-down of FNH history... Circa 1500 – Arms manufacture begins in Belgium. The Liege region soon becomes the epicenter of gunsmithing in Northern Europe. 1889 - Gunsmiths in Belgium’s Liege region form an association, Fabrique Nationale (FN), to fill an order from the Belgian military for 150,000 Mauser-licensed rifles. FN soon becomes a worldwide mark of absolute quality in small arms. 1897 – FN begins a decades-long partnership with America’s John Moses Browning, the most innovative firearms designer in modern history. 1899 – FN introduces the .32 caliber Browning Automatic Pistol, which becomes an instant success in civilian, law enforcement and military circles. 1900 – FN diversifies into production of automobiles, motorcycles, bicycles and other consumer goods. 1903 – FN begins production of the Browning Auto-5, the world’s first successful automatic shotgun. 1907 – FN begins official use of the Browning name in conjunction with their firearms. 1914 – FN produces the one millionth Browning Automatic Pistol. 1914 - FN arms factory is seized and occupied by the invading Germans for use as a hospital and vehicle repair facility. 1917 – The .30 caliber Model 1917 Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR) and .30 caliber Browning Model 1917 Machine Gun are adopted by the U.S. military. Both designs will remain in active U.S. military service for more than a half century.. 1918 – John M. Browning develops the .50 caliber Browning Heavy Machine Gun at the request of U.S. General John J. “Black Jack” Pershing. Browning personally test-fires the prototype on 12 September. The .50 caliber Browning design remains in active U.S. military service today. 1919 – FN resumes small arms manufacture and design collaboration with John. M. Browning, who brings designs for his BAR, .30 and .50 caliber machine guns for FN to produce for the world military market. 1923 – John. M. Browning begins working with FN on the first prototypes of what would become the legendary Hi Power Automatic Pistol. 1926 – FN contracts to built the BAR for Polish military. John M. Browning suffers a fatal heart attack at the FN factory in Liege. His son Val Browning and assistant Dieudonne Saive continue developing small arms designs for FN. 1932 – FN adapts Browning machine gun designs for aircraft use. 1935 – FN introduces the Model 1935 Browning Hi Power, the world’s first successful high-capacity 9mm handgun. The pistol is quickly adopted by several Allied military forces. Over time it also becomes popular with law enforcement and special operations units and remains in production today. 1939 – FN celebrates its 50th anniversary. 1940- FN arms factory is again seized, occupied and integrated into the German war production effort. FN engineers including Dieudonne Saive flee to England, taking weapon blueprints with them to prevent their capture by the Germans. 1942-1945 – John M. Browning-designed automatic rifles, pistols and machine guns made by FN and many other manufacturers are critical to the war effort and are widely used by Allied ground, air and naval forces in every theater of the conflict. 1944 – FN factory stripped of much of its machinery by retreating Germans and then heavily damaged by their V1 buzz bombs and V2 rockets. Now liberated from German occupation, FN quickly assists the Allied war effort by building fuel cans and steel mud grips for tanks and tracked military vehicles. 1945 – FN refurbishes more than two million U.S. military small arms from the European Theater of Operations prior to their return to Allied war reserves. 1949 – FN introduces Model 1949 SAFN Semi-Automatic Infantry Rifle, and begins production of jet engines for military fighter aircraft. 1953 – FN assists in development of the 7.62x51mm cartridge and introduces the legendary FAL Light Automatic Rifle. Both are soon adopted by NATO. 1958 – FN introduces MAG 58 Medium Machine Gun firing the new 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge, and begins manufacture of the Uzi Submachine Gun in 9x19mm NATO under license from Israel. 1964 – FN celebrates 75th anniversary. 1968 – FN begins production of the LAC Light Automatic Carbine in 5.56x45mm NATO. 1977 – U.S. military adopts the FN MAG 58, designating it the M240. Variants of the M240 are soon adopted by all U.S. service branches. 1978 – FN develops the Quick Change Barrel (QCB) modification for the .50 M2HB Browning Heavy Machine Gun. 1980 – FN begins production of FNC 5.56x45mm NATO Selective Fire Carbine. 1981 – FN introduces SS109 Ball and L110 Tracer 5.56x45mm ammunition that are quickly adopted by both NATO and U.S. military, designating them as M855 and M856. 1982 – U.S. military adopts the FN MINIMI 5.56x45mm NATO Squad Automatic Weapon, designating it the M249 SAW. FN opens a plant in Columbia, South Carolina to build small arms for U.S. military. 1988 – FN becomes sole owner of Browning USA. 1989 – FN wins contract to produce M16 rifles for U.S. military at their plant in Columbia, South Carolina. 1990 – FN introduces innovative P90 Personal Defense Weapon and 5.7x28mm ammunition. 1991 – FN purchases U.S. Repeating Arms Company, maker of Winchester rifles and shotguns. 1998 - FN establishes FNH USA as their U.S. sales office. 2000 - FN introduces the bullpup F2000 Selective Fire Rifle. 2007 – FN SCAR is adopted by USSCOM as their next generation assault rifle system.

FNH makes very good, quality products. They have implied lifetime warranties. I have a SCAR, FNP-45, and an FNAR. I have also owned a FNP-40, Fiveseven, and an FN TPS pump shotgun. Some of their products are unique designs like the SCAR and pistols, however others are tested designs from companies like Browning or Winchester which FN takes and modifies to make them more applicable to thier market. I have nothing bad to say about anything I've owned from FN. They use a lot of Polymer in some of their guns, but it's high quality, lightweight, and functional. As far as your .45 search....I think the FNP pistols are some of the most overlooked in the market. The FNP 45 I still own, and probably never get rid of is one of the best .45's I've ever shot. It is a large gun, not a carry gun at all, but I like having a lot to hold onto when shooting a .45. I really like it, and have nothing negative to say about it. All FN pistols come with 3 mags which is nice. And mine came with 2 14 round mags and one 15 rounder to clear up the discussion on page 1. You're welcome to shoot mine if you would like. I go up to Norris pretty often. I sold my XD45 to get the FNP 45. The XD was a nice gun, but after I shot the FNP 45 I am 100% sure I made the right decision. The XD compact was an optional carry piece which was nice, but FN is a much better combat pistol which is what I wanted. Plus with the FN's you get a 1911 style hammer and decocker...no lousy striker fire triggers to deal with.

It took a lot of thinking and bravery to paint the LR-308 I had a while back. Did a woodland snakeskin camo pattern using Krylon Flat camo green, tan, and brown. Finished with a flat acrylic enamel then let it sit in the sun for a couple days to bake everything on. Luckily I am friends with the current owner and he lets me hold it every now and then....lol I've painted several rifles, but this one is my favorite. I don't paint all my guns, but certiain one's that I feel will or have been used in the woods for hunting, or that I might use in the future for some similar situation, I do paint. As mentioned, black stands out, so if you have the balls and the know how to put a rattle can to your gun, then rock on. I've laid in the grass prone shooting this rifle while wearing full multi-cam and had friends take pictures. It's hard to find me in the pics...lol I have some great pics, but I'm not a big fan of posting images of myself on open forums as most of us would understand.

You might be able to get a bicycle handle bar cover...like the ones that goes in between the handle bars similar to a dirtbike that's made of foam. Take it to an upholstery shop and have them make you a wrap for it out of leather or suede. Something like that might do the trick.....maybe not...It's just an idea...lol

Awesome...

I supposse I'll be there too.. I need some glock parts. What time are you guys getting there (Ohshoot, Mike, Garufa, Erik)?

Savage makes a model called the "Edge", kind of their entry level line but with good features. I read an article about them in a recent Gun's and Ammo magazine. Looked like it preformed great for the low price. http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/

Heard some negative things about the ATR. Remington 700 rifles are good solid performers. I'd look at Savage and see what they have. Every one I've owned has been great and they are high value guns. The accutrigger is the best stock trigger I've felt on an entry level rifle.