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Uuuuh, Well, that was interesting . I'll resemble that advice.

Preciate it, yeah, I dodged a bullet big time. If that clot was just a little bit bigger it would have shut down a good chunk of the left side of my brain for good. AND my blood sugar was 420 when I came into the ER. So now I'm a diabetic to boot. I need to get my fat a$$ together and lose 85 lbs, quit smoking (FOR GOOD this time) stop eating ice cream and cereal before bed, get on a treadmill every morning for a half hour and do more shooting on the weekends.

Somewhat of a digest from the other forum: This is a rifle I’ve been struggling with for a couple years never able to get any kind of reasonable performance out of it. Once in a while I’d get it out of the rest and be able to hit steel or some reactionary target reliably after figuring out a hold but could never really print groups. I detailed the poor performance last October when trying different new ammo out of it. Today I ran this stuff: https://ppu-usa.com/ppu/7-62x54-r-match/ Tried to print and as in the past just spattered 4-5” groups from a couple mags. Put it down (disgusted) for an hour, picked it back up and hit 100yd 12” steel 8 out of 10 rounds (WHAAAAT?). Put it back into the sled and shot the 5rd group you see on the upper right. I'm thinking “okay, I’ve finally got a group I can dial in” I took the elevation down a couple inches and windage to the left by in inch and shot the 6rd group you see lower left. I literally touched nothing else on the rifle but dialed the turrets of the Trijicon Accupoint. I didn’t even change mags (11th round was a stray I hand fed into the chamber) So, After all this grief - Is this scope toast ? Well, I described the situation to Trijicon. I sent in the scope and they eventually told me they were replacing it. Never said why but it took 9 months (middle of lock-down / supply chain era) In the end it wore another optic and I finally got the Accupoint back on it . Shoots for crap-. To this day I have never been able to reproduce that 5-shot group (nor hit 100yd steel 8 outta 10 rounds) again. But it did shoot well once. Thus "bizarre accuracy issues"

Speaking of Chattanooga. I was just transported from Nashville to CHI Memorial last night. I had a minor stroke Thursday night and the ER that I went to doesn't have a neurologist on staff. No hospitals in Middle Tennessee with a neurologist on staff had any beds to take me. Waited 24 hours and finally got a 3-hour ambulance ride down to Chatanoo. Happy New Year's. Glad to be alive. Are you able to see the thread on the AKFiles?

Yes and no.

Yea my PSL isn't exactly a tack-driver either. Do you have an acct on the AKFiles? The long saga is reviewed here.... https://www.akfiles.com/forums/threads/my-54r-vepr-woes.442967/ I am in the process of getting the stock hopefully better bedded. The Ironwood Design (RIP) stock set I have only has two top screws (tang and in rear of receiver) and clearly is not enough o keep it tight.

I was at Guns n Leather yesterday talking to the smith about getting better stock bedding on a 54r Vepr currently wearing an Ironwood Designs stock set that continually works itself loose. Anyway, this rifle has had bizarre good/poor accuracy issues since I've owned it and after trying much I was hoping to get a very knowledgeable AK guy take a look at it. One of the guys at the counter said a guy comes in a couple times/yr (wi a heavy foreign accent) buying some expensive accessories/parts for AK type rifles and that the guy is a builder in Nashville. Anyway, looking to find a builder type in town to take a look at this girl.

I'd be good with that out of any of my milsurps

Wow, that was a fast turnaround. You think it was the actual gun? The particular ammo you were using? Or just that 762x39 round doesn't present for accurate shooting

Interesting, I might start a thread over on the AK Files about this maybe cast a wide net for information. That CZ model looked pretty interesting to me a few years back

Did you end up getting it? This is a post/write up I did on my M77 over a year ago on a different forum (AKFiles). Course mine is probably 8 or 10 years old and came into the States originally in an ugly thumb hole stock. Anyway, FWIW............ My Yugo collection is almost the same as Hansellhds. Love em. Best Comblocs (I think). One day I need to line em up for a family portrait as well. I had the good fortune of picking up an M77 a few years ago already dressed in M76 furniture for $850. Put an Arsenal “two stage” in it, combo hider/brake, RSRegulate side mount and one of those Primary Arms FFP 6x BDC scopes, squared the back of the receiver and invested in Csspecs 20rd mags. I even managed to get a cleaning rod mounted under the barrel to have it present as an actual DMR (even though they never were). Probably the most I ever invested in dressing up a Barbie doll before seeing what she was like in bed ! Based on the great experience with my M48 (sniper repro wi ZRAK) and M76 I had high hopes for the 77 but I could never do better than 3+” groups making it nearly useless for the plinking fun out to 400 yds. It was horrible past 200 yds. I don’t reload and shoot mainly stockpiled new M80 and an assortment of stockpiled NATO milsurp. These various ammos have always done much better in my M1A (best), FALs, Galil, LAR8EO and others, at least satisfactory for plinking out to 400. The M77 was such a disappointment I was considering off’ing it or just shelfing it at the back of the safe BUT THEN……. The other day I happened to load up some untried Lithuanian into four empty M77 mags. The other four had Austrian STG58 NATO in em. Grabbed a random mag and went to proof the rifle on paper. I was astonished to see I was getting better than 2” groups. It was the Lithuanian. I grabbed a mag of the Austrian and sure enough it opened up to almost 4”. Back to a mag of Lith and I was hitting six outta ten on 12” steel at 400 yds. WTF !!! Maybe it was a dream? Looking forward to a next day at the range to reconfirm. Soooo, how is it all my other 762NATO rifles can do typically so much better with average milsurp ammo? That same day my M1A proofed 1.5” on PPU M80. The M77 shoots for crap for two years and outta nowhere this Lithuanian turns out to be 2” tighter than anything else I feed it. Again – WTF !!! I know some rifles “like” some ammo better than others but statistically speaking this situation is a bizarre outlier. Almost like there’s some Communist cosmic connection here between Lithuania and Serbia/Yugoslavia each once part of the USSR (and they like each other)? BTW and PS: I was coveting those M91s coming out one day and “settled” for the M77. Now, I may have dumped another $800 dollars into this thing and if she shoots 2 MOA I’ll be ecstatic but I just can’t stomach the thought of spending $2,400, $2,500 or $3,100 on what’s basically a better dressed 54r version M77 or PSL.

Intesting, I've often thought about getting a bolt gun in x39 as I too have a crap ton of assorted steel ammo. Then I always realize how mediocre the accuracy is at least in all my Comm block semiautos. Course I'm not shooting dollar a round x39, nor will I. Your rifle seems to like whatever "Win" and "AE" are. what's happening at 3 or 400 yards? what are all the brands of ammo on your target? I can't make them all out although several look like spendy ammo. I'd love to see a comparison of all the run of the mill steelcase that everybody has access to such as, Tula, Golden Tiger, Barnaul, the Tigers, the Bears, Red Army, Yellow Army, whatever, etc. I don't think I'd ever go out and buy brass cased expensive x39 ammo for bolt gun target shooting. I get that these may be handy lightweight solutions for pests and varmints on the farm, or a good dear gun under 100yds. BUT if there was reasonably improved accuracy out of a bolt gun for the lifetime of Steel x39 that I already have I might be tempted to get one. Didn't CZ make a pretty nice one as well?

A-okay. Cycled normally !!!

Out to the range tomorrow. We'll see how it does in real life.

BAM !!! New parts in and working!!! Piece of cake. Years of minor frustration behind me. Noooow why couldn't the "gunsmith" have done that. No, he had to pry and bend at it making it worse. Thanks all

Yep, Parts on the way.

Yea I ordered two sets of each.

Crap. Thanks. I did find them at Liberty Tree. Shoulda checked ePay. I ordered em as a back up to keep in "the bin". Hoping I'll be able to figure out installation. YouTube is a lean lean here.

After a bit of chit chat on another forum I discovered it to be rimlock as a result of Interrupter/ejector issues. Problem discovered but not solved. Clearly you can see the geometry difference in the interrupters here. The M39 (lower) is the bowed one with tab a bit bent and not protruding into the receiver . The PU Sniper (upper) is the not bowed, rather straight, and the tab looking in alignment while protruding into the receiver. I guess this is what the other smith was bending and tweaking. Not sure if I would be able to bend and torque back into what should be a proper shape. Can these be purchased? The ejector part seems identical with both. No cosmo or debris mucking up the motion of either. They both feel about the same when pressing on them and appear to be in identical placement.

Ah, will give him a call. I forgot about those guys.

I’ve got one of those Finnish M39’s that Century turned into so called “M39 Snipers” by adding a PU Scope / mount back in the day. It’s a fantastic shooter and while it’s historically incorrect I sure don’t mind shooting it scoped. Since day one it has had problems feeding and ejecting. #1 I’ve noticed, almost reliably, when it comes to the third round in a full magazine round #3 will NOT feed. The bolt just bangs the rear and I cannot for the life of me see what the problem is. Even if I push the round down and around it will not feed. After I drop the floor plate and reload and all is fine with those three rounds. If I fill wi 5 rds, #3 always seems to lock up. #2 The other issue is it barely/rarely ejects unless I pull the bolt back very fast and even then it sorta drops out of the receiver. Just pulls the spent casing outta the chamber and leaves it in the receiver. I’ve swapped bolts with other Mosins and no change. I gave it to a well know 1911 gunsmith in town and he resolved it temporarily. He didn’t change any parts, rather, just sorta messed with it. Never got a clear answer what he did. The first trip to the range a month ago all was well. Yesterday it was back to the old probs described above (and even worse). I have two other actual PU Snipers and the actions are like butter. I know these aren’t very complicated rifles but I don’t want to trial and error anything myself. I’d like to just send this thing out. Can anyone recommend an actual brick n Mortar gunsmith that knows Mosins ? In middle TN would be great.

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Hey folks sorry for resurrecting a seriously old necro thread. I'm in the Nashville area and a fellow on another Forum mentioned he was a member of this club. Only half hour from my house. I started to ask him how to contact or become a member and he went crickets on me. I'm currently a member at Middle Tennessee Sporting Association ( past Hartsville) . We used to be the Gallatin Gun Club and our new range is a solid hour+ drive for me. I can find almost nothing online. Website is dead. Basically this old thread was a top find after searching but not myself.

Go git er dun Hersh. Need a few more months at the Steam Plant. Especially if we're going to hold onto members. Nobody's going to want to pay dues (increased dues) for no place to shoot. Maybe the climate in Washington is different now (ya think ???)

Only 10-15 min farther for me. It's a gorgeous site. I had the privilege of riding nearly every square acre of it on a four wheeler on a GPS surveying exercise (4-5 hours straight on an ATV up many steep inclines and I can tell you my upper body is KILLING me today). I think we may be underestimating what could be possible for this land. Of course I am not in the know of the NRA specs of how best to design a range but I could imagine several IDPA matches and maybe even an area for three gun all happening at once..