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If by "ban" you mean vote with our dollars not to purchase the stuff then I'm all for it. I've been a Mickey D's may 2-3 times a year for the past 10 years and that's mainly to purchase coffee. Surely you wouldn't advocate a "gov't knows what's best for us" "ban" consisting of a bunch of rules and regulations?

I've also heard a recent rumor Glock will have a carbine at the SHOT show. I'm not holding my breath but...

I have a Glock 19 and I've been looking for a deal on a 26. I'd also like to have a 17 and a 21SF in that order.

Just wanted to say thanks for the info. I'm eager to see the new models.

I've got the 19 is hard to fault as is. I'll be keeping mine. If I could find a good used 26 with night sights I'd probably stick with Gen 3 for a subcompact too. The big news to me is the interchangable backstraps and I feel that will make the most difference on the full-size guns. All the 9mms fit my hand well already so it's the new 21 that I can't wait to see.

I've been seeing rumors online that 4th Generation Glocks are coming out in January. One source in particular says they will have new finishes, new sight options, and interchangable backstraps similiar to the M&P guns. Any vendors or anyone else out there have any inside information on this? I'm considering buying a 26 soon and I'm wondering if there really will be big changes.

Stegall is right. You will not get to pick and choose your professors and many of them make little if any attempt to hide their particular political biases. Learning how to persuasively and respectfully disagree is a fundamental skill that you may not learn from people that you agree with. I do agree with you that the author's take on the 2nd Amendment sounds like to me...

Thanks for the info on the Austrian Sporting Arms ISSC .22 I wasn't familiar with this option. Is it picky about ammo? How available are these?

Hey guys I'm new to the forum and I'm learning a lot from everyone's postings. I've just taken the HCP class and have been practicing with my Glock 19 which I really like. However I'm considering getting a .22 pistol so I could practice more often without breaking the bank. I don't need a serious target gun, just something to practice trigger pull etc... I've been scanning for a used Walther P22 but I'm interested in opinions about pros and cons of a conversion kit for my Glock v/s a separate .22 pistol. At first I was leaning toward a conversion kit but when I realized I could get a dedicated practice gun for now much more I think I've changed my mind.

+1 for Social Distortion suprised to see another social D fan on here

So the consensus seems to be Yes, I should get either a shotgun or a rifle b/c it will be easier to hit an intruder with when I'm nervous and/or still half asleep @ 3:00AM. Thanks for the votes. I'm learning alot from the TGO forums.

That's more than most shotguns but still not that bad. Is the Kel-Tec Sub 2000 not worth considering?

"Also remember HD other than guns. You should not have to sleep with a gun under your pillow or anything like that. Remember to secure your position such that you will have time to be fully awake and react to a situation before it is in your face or in your bedroom. " That's why I'm also researching alarms. I have my G19 in a quick access safe 1 step from my bed it's loaded and the safe is programmed so that I can press 3 buttons and it's out. I've practiced this many times. We're also on the 2nd floor and there is a very loud (but not mean) dog downstairs as well as 2 baby gates on our steps that make a lot of noise. Basically my plan is the wife goes to my sons room with a cell-phone and I make sure no one gets upstairs. Our dog is really loud but I'm still checking into alarms. My toddler age son gets into everything... his favorite place to play is in my closet and my nightstand area so leaving something out is not an option. One good thing is our master BR has his and hers walk-in closets and I could get a pretty big safe and still have it concealed only a few feet from my bed.

"Pistol caliber AR-15's have been refined now where most of the kinks have been worked out. Lonewolf dist. has come out with a AR15 lower that takes Glock magazines." So I could build an AR-15 that would take Glock mags and shoot cheap and readily available 9mm? I bet it would be easy to shoot and have no recoil. What would be ballpark price?

So it sounds like the first vote is: "buy a bigger safe and a shotgun" or maybe it's "buy everything" since he also has a G17. The G17 might be a good house and occasional open carry gun since I really like my G19 and find it easy to shoot. Remember I'm looking for what I should buy next; not necessarily at the exclusion of everything else; just next. More votes...

I didn't think about HD seriously until this past year. I have a wife and a child and so the old "run out the back door and let them take my stuff" is just not an option anymore. My wife has never fired a gun and until recently didn't want me to have them either. She changed her mind when I had an unreasonable client (who was stalking other people) making veiled threats against me. I withdrew as his lawyer. Fortunately, he's already fired his next lawyer and I think I'm pretty far down his "list" so-to-speak. Anyway, I'm really thinking about HD now. I'd like to get a security system but I'm not sure what I can do without a land-line phone. We don't have a land-line phone because a friend who works for the phone co has told me it's possible for people to get your info even with an unlisted #. Anyone know if their are alarm options w/o a traditional phone? You aren't concered with overpenetration with the AR?

Hey guys. I'm new to the forum and I have a question I'd like to some opinions on. In my line of work I come into contact with quite a few criminals as well as folks with signficant substance abuse and anger management problems. Being concerned about personal safety, I recently purchase my first gun, I've been shooting regularly at a local range and I have already signed up for an HCP class soon. I've got a 9mm (Glock 19) pistol but I've thought about getting another weapon specifically for home defense. Many folks believe a 12 gauge shotgun is the ideal home defense weapon but I'm starting to feel pretty comfortable with my Glock so I'm not sure it would be a good idea to have to rely on a shotgun for HD when I've already enjoying (and becoming more confident with( my pistol. My thoughts against getting any shotgun/long gun are as follows: 1. I have no interest in hunting. 2. I think AR-15's are cool but they aren't recommended for HD and the ammo might be expensive if I shot often. 3. I could get a HD hand gun instead, (probably Glock 17) with hollowpoint 9mm and maybe a tac-light. It would be so similar to my carry-weapon that it wouldn't require any extra practice. 4. I won't have to buy a bigger safe. (this is important since I have a small child) My thoughts in favor of getting a long gun are: 1. It might be easier for my wife to shoot 2. Everyone says they are better for HD As a long gun for HD, I would consider: 1. A 12 or 20 gauge mossberg pump-action shotgun 2. A Kel-Tec Sub 2000 because it should be extremely easy for my wife to shoot and it will take my Glock mags. My wife has spent very little time around guns and is a very small person 5'3" 115 pounds. That's why I might be more inclined to go 20g than 12g. My wife and I really enjoy camping and hiking and if I don't get a long gun for HD my 2nd gun might get a larger caliber handgun for occasional backwoods open carry. This might be a large revolver or a 10mm auto. Thanks for sharing your wisdom guys and please chime in with votes for what will be my 2nd gun (first being the G19 which I really like).