Well, this is kind of how and why I got my HCP last year. At one of the distributors that we buy from (been doing business there years) we talk guns, and hunting, during the seasons. Alright now we're talking one morning I ask one of the ladies if she had done any hunting this particular weekend. She said no, but that her and one of the other women were going take thier HCP classes that week. Now I knew a couple friends that have their permits, but I just never thought that much about really. A week or so later I went and took mine. Took nearly 5 1/2 mons. I received it first of June. I have handed it and the DL to purchase a firearm and both times they handed back the HCP and used DL, thought about using for ID but never have.