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yup. it was a damn dogfight - and in the end it came down to a coin toss. I think these teams will see each other again in the playoffs. I hate losing scaife though, and I know the Steelers cant afford to lose Polamalu for long.

modified? when were we discussing intentional illegal behavior? EDIT: I see what you are saying now, thanks Lumberg.

Good God the Titans gave that one away! Missing 2 easy fields goals? Thats a heatbreaker. Even 1 of those fieldgoals would have won it.. Oh well. its in the books as a loss. Time to retool that pathetic zone defense. Roethlisberger chucking it for 368 yards is embarrasing. Yes we can stop the run. Thats great. Now we need to learn how to play special teams and stop the pass. Its a long season though... GO TITANS!

Well said. I think its safe to assume that any plaintiff attorney would use this against the HCP holder and try to paint him/her as a scofflaw.

Willis - I think you would be surprised as the situations where you might not be able to see a properly posted sign. It could be dark, or raining, or it could be like a packed restaurant on a Sunday morning in winter with 50 people jammed at the front of the restaurant obscuring the sign. Any number of possibilities. But thats not really the point. The reason for this scenario is not to focus on seeing the sign if posted, but rather dealing with the aftermath. BigPoppa - that sounds more like it. I'd love to read some case law on that "safe harbor" defense as used here in TN.

agreed, but in this scenario you dont see a sign, and only find out later that there is one and you missed it.

These are the kind of stories that usually accompany the Darwin Awards! Glad bubbas ok.

I asked this question in another thread, but it was a bit of a threadjack so I didn't want to continue there... Here is a hypothetical scenario: You walk into a restaurant with your family for dinner. The restaurant has a legally posted no-gun sign but you missed it. During dinner, a criminal presents a serious threat and you are forced to defend yourself and your family. Topic of discussion: What are the legal ramifications of this encounter? Could you charged with a crime for carrying? Could you lose your HCP? Does the self defense clause exonerate you as Fallguy and Hexhead have stated earlier? Ignorance is no defense of the law, so to what end does the HCP holder need to go to ensure that he is carrying legally?

brutal fantastic

pong

you got a thing for maps, eh? nice work.

I was waiting for the M1 Abrams to come roaring out of his....

agreed. sorry for the threadjack.

wow. kinda counter-intuitive, isn't it?

Interesting.. so correct me if I'm wrong, but its illegal to carry into a restaurant properly posted banning guns, but if you do it anyway and are forced to defend yourself with it, you are exonerated from the original infraction?

right. so lets say its posted correctly - what are the repercussions with my proposed scenario?

^agreed. but say you have to draw your weapon and defend yourself and it turns out the restaurant you were in is a no-carry restaurant, do you get charged with a misdemeanor and lose your permit?

cool

people are inputting their home addresses....

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haha.. thats sweet.

i dont know where in sumner co you live.. so i dropped you off in Gallatin! I figure its closer than NYC! EDIT: scratch that.. saw your marker said Bethpage so I dropped you off there.

cool.

the mill pro should have come with a mag loader. use that until the new spring relaxes a bit.

WOOF! the onion hits below the belt.. good stuff!