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  Or Two Hits anywhere...,   Or a Single Hit anywhere for Heavy Metal...,   Is this correct for Saturday?

  More 45ACP brass for you and 173ABN to fight over!  :slapfight:

Well Done Matt in TN!  :up:   You put the beat-down on the rest of us in Heavy Metal - - - and 9th overall for the entire match!  :bow:

  HXP didn't start that fire!  :rofl:

And they will cost even more tomorrow.... Get them while you can folks. There will come a day when the CMP won't have anymore of these to open.

The CMP sells it in 30.06. This is Greek HXP M2 ball. The image above was sent to all CMP clubs and Master Instructors to show local ranges that while HXP will attract a magnet, it IS NOT an armor-piercing (AP) round that will damage a range's steel plate targets. Black Tip in .30cal and Green Tip in 5.56mm are AP and will damage a steel plate. Because of these AP rounds finding their way into the general shooting population, a lot of ranges outlawed them and used the magnet test as a means to check rounds. These ranges didn't know that some standard FMJ rounds use a small amount of steel in its construction. This was impacting CMP matches around the country when the Greek HXP became the issued ammo at matches. The steel jacket used in the HXP is very thin, mild and soft and was used only to shape the lead bullet itself during manufacturing. About the only issue that a range could have is the possible spark that could come off of it hitting a steel plate that could start a fire during dry conditions.

  I should have more feedback after this Sunday's 3Gun match in Manchester.   http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/81978-3-gun-at-middle-tn-shooters-10-5-14/   It seems that all AR308 based guns have problems with aftermarket triggers.  It has to be based on the larger size of the BCG.   Over on ARFCOM there is a thread on issues using a Geissele SSA-E.    http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_301/253728_PA_10_and_Geissele_SSA_E___NOW_IT_WORKS__.html&page=3   To Geissele's credit, they have jumped on the problem and have developed a fix.   Their modification requires .015" off of the tail end of the hammer under the sear which is a non critical area of the hammer.  Geissele Customer Service has posted on ARFCOM that instructions are being written that will make this an easy DYI.   I'll have to shoot this Sunday's match with the stock trigger, but I plan to order another Geissele for this AR as soon as I get a look at their fix.

Agree with all of the above.  Cheap stuff that runs in your guns will take care of 99% of all stages.   But as a suggestion.........   Have a couple of Slugs with you for those times when a stage requires it.   Keep some 6 shot with you for when the steel plates are set for heavier shot.   Also keep 20-40 rounds of good match-grade ammo that groups well with your AR when a stage has steel plates out pass 200 yards.   And Finally.....   Enough spare ammo in your vehicle as a backup just in case you have to re-shoot a stage.   

Wide-Notch Black rear sights on all of my handguns for carry and competition handguns.    Fronts vary - - -  Tritium, FO, Gold.

  Who did you use for the hydro dip and why for the don't recommend?  :confused:

What type of targets?

  I wish that was so......   Remind me to tell you how many times I just missed making the President's 100.  :wall:  

  That was single load off a bench rest with a three shot group at 100 yards.  Yea, I was very surprised with that good of a group as was 173rdABN.  I didn't try to duplicate it, I think my comment while checking the group through my spotting scope was "OK - - - I'm stopping now!"   I haven't tried it with any match ammo.  The hits on the 10 inch steel plate were from the prone position un-supported at 4X on the scope.  I didn't attempt to see how it grouped at 200 yards.      Its a 16 inch barrel with a Midwest Industry 15 inch tube. 

  10lbs, 5oz Empty 11lbs, 12oz with 20 round mag.   Happy that I don't have to hump it any farther than from my 3Gun buggy to the starting position.  However, all that weight does help with the recoil.   One of the funny things that I have noted is that after near 4 decades of running M16/M4/AR 5.56 based weapons - - - everything seems to be 1/8 to 1/4 inch more of a reach for my fingers due to the 308 dimensions.  

I put it together using the new Palmetto State PA-10 Upper & their lower kit. The cost of the PSA stuff is crazy good. Here is a link where we discussed the upper. http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/81620-palmetto-state-308-upper/

  Yea, I missed the match this month, will have to make the Oct match.   I should have my new Heavy Metal AR all ready by the 5th.  That was why I was asking El Guapo the round count since I won't have to drag as much 7.62 with me as I would if I shot 5.56.   

  You know I have to bring more than just one.   :rock:     See you guys Saturday. 

Primary Arms is selling M3 PMAGS for $8.99.   http://www.primaryarms.com/MAGPUL_PMAG_30rd_NON_Window_GEN_M3_Black_p/mag557-blk.htm?utm_source=bronto&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Magpul+Gen+M3+30+Round+PMAG&utm_content=Primary+Arms+Anniversary+Sale&utm_campaign=14-10-1+Anniversary+Sale

I wonder if he had just gotten word that the Lions had passed on him as their PK?

Sunset @ 6:35PM and Moonset @ 8:39PM   Max lunar Illumination of 12.4% @ 3:15PM   Forecast is dark, followed by Darker, ending with DARKEST!    Best be stocking up on those 123A batteries.    John,   So we'll be shooting rifles as side matches this year and not as a second gun like last year?

  So its a round count per stage that you are showing, not a total number of targets.

  Even after only 2 weeks of being a Team Leader @ McDonald's...., you would still have far more executive decision-making experience than the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue!   

  Hey El Guapo......,   Trying to figure out my basic load.   Are those figures per stage the numbers of Targets or the Round Count total for the stage?   Mark

Got all of the PSA parts in - - - Got it all put together yesterday - - - Got it to the range today. Call this the Proof-of-Principle configuration. The PWS break/hinder came off an FN SCAR 17. I added a MAGPUL fixed carbine stock and an extra Larue APEG grip that I had. Also installed some MI panels that I had left over from another build. The Millett 1-4 scope in an ADC scout mount is borrowed off one of my other 3Gun ARs. The rear BUIS came out of my spare parts bin, I mounted it to see if it would clear the scope. I pulled the stock off of my Light Weight AR to see if it would fit. The PSA 308 carbine tube is about an inch longer that the standard carbine length and the MAGPUL did fit. I may still go with a rifle tube and A1 stock to balance out the firearm. (Did a test fit of an A1 stock and realized that the shape of the MOE butt plate is so much better) It seems just a hair nose heavy to me right now. Noted today that PSA now has a slim profile barrel for this upper. Fired about 50 - 70 rounds of M80 7.62 ball ammo. No issues with function. Recoil was on par with my soft shooting FAL, far less than my M14, and much better than my G3 (my least favorite 7.62 battle rifle). Groups were in the 1 to 1.5 inch range and that was using the Millett's Donut-Dot Reticle. No problem hitting the 10 inch plate at 200 yards. 173rdABN also fired the gun and pronounce fit for Heavy Metal 3Gun duty so long as I replace the "SH*TY" stock trigger. I Really Like This Firearm! Funny...., wasn't even thinking about an AR in .308 less than two weeks ago.

  Yup!