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That is hilarious!!

Wrong thread man... that isn't odd... it's FREAK'N COOL!!!! WOW!!!!

Use the 1911 at home, subdued at work now. (Thanks BTW.)

I went by there Saturday around 6:00-8:00pm. Talked to some really nice people there. One showed me and a friend (He has his license, but isn't active.) around. He explained quite a bit about the stuff and even showed us a couple of vehicles... how they were set up. Really nice guy. Not sure if it's for me though. It's interesting and all... but the way the economy is right now, at least for me... I can't justify the cost with the practicality right now. Great guys though!

It looks like a Radio Shack threw up!

While I agree with the sentiment... I don't think that is fully necessary. The President doesn't need to have experience in everything, but does need common sense and the ability to listen to people with more knowledge than himself to help guide him in the decision making process. Sometimes, in my opinion, one of a leader's greatest assets is the ability to be honest with themselves... place pride and ego on the shelf and listen to wise council of those that have knowledge through their experience. IMHO... (And no... I have never served in the military. Though I was in charge of over 400 hundred plastic army men and two plastic army tanks. Sadly... I... I... lost them all. And to this day, I blame myself. )

I'm not. It is an example the elitist mentality of our times. The looking down on those who do work on your behalf. Be it the plumber, the electrician, HVAC guy, waiter, or solider. (I am not trying to demean soldiers at all btw.) These elitist see them selves far above and removed from the common man. You know... the ones we grew up calling the salt of the earth. Like the plumber, they have them get into the muck and mire either because they don't know how... or they don't have the stomach for it. The whole time complaining about the price they have to pay for it. Give me air. I was always taught to observe how the people around me treated the people that served them. It would tell me more about them than endless hours of them going on and on about themselves. Sorry... ranting.

Some good general info on the .357 sig HERE. Some crap I completely made up about the .357sig HERE. Get what you want, you know your needs better than anyone else on this board and what you expect the round to do. Take all with a grain of salt and if possible... find someone with one and compare for yourself. I always turned my nose up at the G33 because of what I had read in gun mags. Then I shot one, very manageable and very fun to shoot. All that "Ohhh recoil is hard to manage" stuff didn't seem to be a problem for me. But then again, I have tiny soft girly hands.

That is the main thing you should take away from this. IMHO... A benefit of the .357sig is also that it has performed well in barrier penetrations (one reason some HWY patrols have went to it) and it does well going through glass. Or so I have read. When it comes to tissue I often read the same 12" mentioned often. *Disclaimer: I also carry a HK compact in .357sig. Excellent round in my opinion.

That... in combination to your avatar is Hilarious!!!

Make that "just add internet"... Hahahaha!!!

Tactical Smurfs!

I have often heard of it referred to as "the thinking man's gun"... not really sure what that means, but I have yet to hear of anyone who did not like them or the quality of them. For what it is worth. (Hope to own one some day.)

Sorry man... my bad. I see it now.

It would be ten shades of cool if you could incorporate three wolves and a full moon in the background.

Looks good!

Thanks David... this is just the type of info I was looking for.

Stray question... but basically on topic... If a person wanted to "get their feet wet" in ham radios what would be the minimum investment? I understand equipment cost varies with quality, and what your trying to do... but say a decent mobile hand held device and general license, etc. for use in a basic weather disaster or something along those lines? (If this makes sense?) (Also a quick reference guide or "how to" to get started in basic HAM would be a pretty good "sticky" in the Survival Section. Not that this thread isn't good, just a one stop posting that had the basics spelled out.)

It was kind of creepy driving down I-24 past bonnaroo that Thursday and seeing 12 miles of cars sitting on both sides of the interstate too!

Just posted my review about the book as a new thread.

Book: "One Second After" Author: William R. Forstchen Book link | Buy Link The Quick Review: A well written, thought provoking look at the US after a well organized EMP strike that leaves the US basically trying to survive living like they are in the 1800's. This is an easy read and very different from some of the other "apocalyptical" books I have read in the past. The difference being it doesn't focus on people that had prepared for an extreme situation but on what could be argued more the norm... the 95% that are left that have not prepared in any way. The characters are interesting and diverse. I could have easily read this in just a couple of days. It sucked me in quickly. The main character has a 12 year old daughter that has Type I diabetes and the story takes place in Black Mountain N.C. Since I have family two hours from there and my 13 year old son has Type I it's pretty easy to see how I could be pulled into it quickly. I really recommend this book and can see that this is a keeper for me. The only complaint I have is the author did not include maps of the area. They aren't really needed, but I printed a couple off from google and referred to them from time to time. Mainly because I was vaguely familiar with the area and wanted a sense of scale. But that is just me. I would consider this an excellent "first book", or "Introduction to thinking ahead" type of thing. Not really a how to book for preparedness... more of a way to get a conversation started or present some examples that most people may not have ever thought about. It's worth the cost and the short time to read it. Get it! =================== The Longer Review... This book is interesting on many levels. Besides being well written, it isn't a "How To" book on survival. It isn't a "manual" for what to buy, what brands to have, and how to make this or that disguised as a novel. It's a well written presentation of ideas... problems that would need to be solved. Problems of logistics, society, health, infrastructure, security, etc. The solutions that the authors characters are interesting in that they are debatable. Some solutions made me cringe politically or morally... but it made me ask myself the hard question of "Okay smart guy... what would I do?!?" That is the difference of a good book and a good manual. It's interesting that the author included a series health problem in the form of the main character's daughter having type I diabetes. This made the book all that more painful to read. It also gave me ore instances to say again... "Okay smart guy... what would I do?!?" Reading this book a few things stood out that have not before reading these "types" of books. The importance of Heath, Education / Training. First Heath... what it plays individually as well as collectively in a society. (How many times have you seen a 5'7" 300 lbs. guy post a picture of his 80 lb. bug out bag and thought... Dude! You won't make it 30 feet with that thing!) Next the education and training aspect. Not carbine courses and stuff like that... but basic things... first aid, basically working knowledge of things and the area where you live. (I have seen guys online build awesome med kits with tons of stuff but no knowledge of how to use a quarter of it.) It's easy to just "order stuff" as a mental safety blanket it's another thing to spend the time and money being trained to use what you do have instead of buying the next latest and greatest! Also the pressures extreme situations place on people and societies in general. How people react differently and how education, social standing... are really not a good indicator of how people will react. Another thing I liked about the book is the "there but for the grace of God go I" thing. In reading the book I could see myself in many of the same situations that characters where in. (Why does everyone online think that when everything breaks down it will happen when they are at home on a Friday evening? Why not on the way home? Or while away on business in another state, or while on vacation? Yeah... with your 80lb. BOB at home!) The book is good, well worth it's price and I can't see me reselling it. I can see me rereading it in the years to come. I highly recommend the book in general... but also as a way to springboard a discussion. I can easily see a group of friends that had all read the book easily sitting around talking about "Okay... so if you wouldn't have allowed refugees in then what would you have done?" Type of discussions. That is the real worth of the book to me. Another example is the thread I started just asking if it was any good and it started pages of discussion covering EMPs, GeoPoltical players that could pull it off, the politics versus the logistical needs of the survivors, etc. A response like that is a very good indication of a good book. Well... that's it in a nut shell.

Finished reading this today. Was out of town otherwise I would have finished it much sooner. I'll post a detailed review soon with a like from here to there. Overall impression... very good on many levels. Not really a "book club" guy, but I could see where guys who read this book could all talk about it for hours... easily!

Okay... I'm burning through this book at a mad pace. Can't put it down. I just reached the point about the discussion of the farmers cattle last night! So far... this book is creeping me out! The similarities are really messing with my head. This takes place in Black Mountain! As in northeast of Asheville, as in just about two hours drive from where my Dad was raised and where I have family still and am leaving to visit tomorrow! Reading the names of towns I have heard of puts a really different spin on things. The other bigger thing... main character has a daughter that is 12 and is a Type I diabetic. My 13 year old son is a Type I. Reading the part where he gets extra insulin from the pharmacy was... tough. We keep extra insulin on hand. A few months. After reading this... not near enough! I have always joked with my wife that I wasn't worried about insulin should something bad happens... I always said I would steal insulin if it meant keeping my son alive. Never thought in my wildest dreams that there might not be any. Gonna stop reading this thread until I finish the book, and maybe till I get back from my trip. Just so I don't accidently hear any spoilers.

This pretty much nails it... I'm grabbing the sucker when I get off from work!!!

I like these type of books in general, the Type I / Insulin Dependent child just makes it the more interesting to me. Knowing me, if it is as good as those few pages I read... I'll have it devoured in just a few days!