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Kinda sounds like a double standard to me. I guess you can say whatever you want as long as you put a smiley at the end of it.

Personal attacks? Interesting......

No kidding. As I said in an earlier post, if you give the government that kind of power over the lives of private citizens someday that power could be turned against you. Today it could be limiting mosques in New York, tomorrow they could apply that to anything they felt like limiting.

You nailed it there. If varying slightly from the rules of our respective religions, no matter the degree, means we cant participate, most of us would have been kicked out a long time ago.

Just as much of experts as a guy on a gun forum who doesn't cite his sources. Still not sure where you are getting your info on the Mexican War but you've got it backwards. The war was fought over our attempts to control thorough population settlements not the other way around. Mexico was already in possession of the territories. Stephen Austin brought in over 300 American families in the attempt and in 1829 Mexico outlawed further immigration because the Americans were outnumbering the native Mexicans. So if the Islamic leaders are following that example as you say(which they are doing a great job with consider the US has a 1.5% Muslim population that is growing at .03% at it's best year) we were the ones who best employed it.

I have a friend who lives in England and another who just spent the summer in France. Not sure where you get that they on their way towards Sharia rule but neither one of them have seen it. Can't speak for Spain but Turkey has had a greater than 97% Muslim population for centuries. As for Bosnia and Darfur those are 3rd world countries and any comparison of them to the US is irrelevant. Basic world history? You've got some things backward. The Mexican-American War was fought over our the American settlements in Mexican territory and our attempt at annexation. It had nothing to do with lots of Mexicans moving in trying to gain power. It was exactly the opposite

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How are you going to fall into slavery over this? If they were to try to seize power through force I would be one of the first to load my rifle but this is not the case. I got into a discussion earlier with a friend on just how real the possibility is that Muslims could take over and install a rule under Sharia law. It just isn't probable. If by some improbable chance they were able to gain political power, the process of them dismantling our laws in favor of a Sharia system would take a fundamental change in the very thinking of Americans. Americans love their freedoms and it is inconceivable to think that would easily cast them aside to any ruling party. The Constitution as a mere document vs the Constitutional principals that are ingrained in the majority of Americans are two different things. (Think V for Vendetta). The people themselves wouldn't let that happen even if the government tried. Sharia law is radically different than just a Government system that is sympathetic to Muslims and it just wouldn't stand. Its still too far fetched for me to lose sleep over.

Good luck with that man. If you give the government the power to toss citizens out remember that it could be a two way street. Lets just hope you never say anything they don't like and toss you out. Careful who you give absolute power to.

How is showing them we aren't afraid of to put a mosque in downtown NYC a sign of weakness? To me thats a sign of our strength and resolve that they didn't win with 9/11. It would be weak to tell them that they have us so scared that we won't let them anywhere near us.

This puts some of this fear mongering into perspective. Not all Muslims are terrorists the same as not all Christians side with Eric Rudolph and Westboro Baptist By allowing the mosque to be built it would actually be a bigger plus for us and adversely a blow to the extremist line of thinking. If we allow it to continue it takes some of the power out of the rhetoric that they spew to recruit new members. They can't say "Look how America treats Muslims! Join our side!" anymore. More food for thought Matthew Alexander: Build the Mosque; Help Defeat al Qaeda

Seriously. If me and two of my buddies are the only ones in the theater and one of them yells fire will he go to jail? I mean couldn't I just smack him upside the head and not involve the government?

Funny how things come back around. This is just as relevant today as when it was made.

http://www.archive.org/details/MakeMine1948

Don't even tease about that. Now all I'll be able to do is dream of that day.