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Hey guys, I searched around for a while and did not see many pics out there of a cerakoted PM9 so I thought I would throw up a pic of my "New" Kahr. I have carried this puppy for several years and the stainless was starting to show some wear and decided to change colors a bit. I found Jack over at Old Hickory Gunsmithing and asked him to cerakote my Kahr. He did an awesome job and this looks just as good as any factory finish I have seen. I REALLY like the new look and it definitely toned down the shine of the stainless slide.

Yep, you made the right call on letting him walk and should be happy with your decision.  This was a bizarre year for deer hunting and it just seemed the deer were not moving much during the day.  I hunted A LOT and got one decent 7 pointer and one doe.  I didn't see squat after the rut shut down and it seemed like even the does went nocturnal.  I talked to several people who hunt in different areas and they were reporting similar results.  Lots of pics on cameras at night but nil during the day. Hope I'm around for next season and I agree with the sentiment, 'that's why it's called hunting and not killing'!  My dad used to say that every time we got skunked (which was often).

For those of you looking for the short summary: The class is awesome. I took this class up in Cookeville this past weekend and it was a blast. Ryan did an awesome job teaching the class and spending time with us on our shortfalls. At no time were we rushed and he spent plenty of time reviewing all aspects of weapon manipulation. We even covered maintenance which was very useful. I learned lots of great drills and learned proper techniques for a TON of things that I have been doing incorrectly. By the end of the class I was shooting more accurately than ever and doing it from "unique" field positions. Overall, this is a great class and I highly recommend it for anyone especially for those in the "intermediate" skill level. You can take this class as a new AR owner but you need to be very familiar with your weapon and know how to handle the weapon safely on the range. This is my second Suarez class and both have been excellent experiences and I will definitely take more in the future.

Go ahead and load up on some ammo while waiting for the "privilege" to own a suppressor. Still makes me angry to think we have to go through all the expense and wait to get "approved". But I digress..... I have found the CCI sub-sonic is very good and very, very quiet. Next in line is CCI standard. Aquila does not seem to function well in my 10/22 but federal bulk works pretty well.

I took my two boys out today shooting (they are 6 and 8). We shot 22lr with our Buckmark and AAC Prodigy. This suppressor is very quiet and the low weight aluminum can is perfect for beginning shooters. We shot a few hundred rounds and the boys had a blast. We blew up some rotten tomatoes, water bottles and zombie targets. I have a can for my AR but if I had to only choose one can, it would hands down be the Prodigy. The low weight, easy cleaning and quietness are great but it really shines in helping new shooters develop proper shooting mechanics. I have shot this thing a bunch but today it really just hit me how much I enjoyed 22 and shooting with my kids. If you are on the fence about which suppressor to get, you can't go wrong with 22!!!

Short answer = yes. It will be fine if you buy a suppressor that can be operator cleaned. i.e. don't shoot a lot of 22lr in a sealed can. 22 is dirty and is awesome to shoot through a suppressor but buy a can that can be cleaned. Or, just buy two suppressors!

I have a few Tactical Solutions barrels (10/22 and buckmark) and really like them. They are super light and I have had outstanding accuracy with them. I have a AAC prodigy and it screws down nice and tight on both.

I was in your same boat about a year ago. I did almost 6 months of research and went with the AAC Prodigy. It was the best all around option for me as I wanted a lightweight can to put on my pistol AND rifle. I love the thing and it is everything I had hoped for. CCI standard velocity sounds like a pellet rifle and CCI sub-sonics are movie quiet. The cleaning process is a bit more involved than some cans but I can have it taken apart and cleaned in 5 minutes. A little bore butter in the tube and around the seal makes it much easier to clean. The huge upside is the weight (or lack thereof). On the end of my buckmark pistol it is negligible.

Yea, I got an approval in 3 months early part of the year. I asked them in Sept about the wait times and was told they are short staffed. Back in Sept they told me it would be around 5 months. I called back at the beginning of the year and was told 6 months. It was almost 6 months to the day. There is no way short staffed workers can meet that type of time commitment especially considering the increase in submissions. Just very strange that now everyone is getting their stamps in 6 months.

Mailed on Sept 9th Went Pending on Sept 14th Approved March 8th. Right at 6 months for me to get the stamp. I wonder if they just sit on it for several months? If they are truly backlogged, the wait time would grow and not remain consistent.

I don't know about yall but I have been really disappointed in SilencerResearch. He seldom, if ever puts up reviews anymore. I think Bryon with majormalfunction has the best site right now. Plus its free! Check it out: http://www.silencerforum.com/forum/forum.php He also beats nearly everyone on prices. I buy my stuff from him and have been very satisfied. You have gotten great advice about buying (or building) your first can. I went with a 5.56 can as my first and wish I would have started with 22lr. No matter what you decide you have already made a great choice by deciding to get one!

This TV series is my favorite of all time. I can't think of anything that even comes close except the original Dukes of Hazzard. I mean, its really tough to beat Bo and Luke flying through the air in the General. Then throw in Daisy and you got a winner. Sorry, I digress.... I really like how Rick is developing and it looks like Shane is about to pop any second. Lori is getting old to me so I'm glad they are throwing some drama in there with the car wreck. Maybe she will get infected but still deliver a little hybrid freak baby.

I hit the 5 month waiting mark this week and called today and was told that the wait is "at least 6 months". Three months ago I was told that I could expect approval in 5 months. I'm hoping that by the end of the year I will have my new can!!!! Went pending in early September.

I just got a Garrett "Silent Thunder OWB". I absolutely love this holster. Finish is great and what I really like is that the kydex is leather lined. My HK P2000 fits tight and the holster is very comfortable. I am going to write a review soon but I would not hesitate buying another one of Garretts holsters. I'm still waiting on a TT Gunleather IWB to ship but if it's not as comfy as I'm hoping, then Garrett will get my next order.

I went pending Sept 5th and still no dice. 2nd can on the same trust. First one took under 4 months door to door early 2011. My class 3 dealer is saying it is taking every bit of 6 months to get the stamp from pending time.

The sk model is the super compact. I have heard good things about it but I use a Kahr PM9 for deep concealment and it has been stellar. If you are considering a G19 then go with the full size P2000. I have both the G19 and P2000 and MUCH prefer the H&K. This size weapon is concealable but you have to find the right holster. Appendix seems to work best for me. The Kahr completely disappears in appendix carry even with a tight shirt. It can also be pocket carried. I will eventually pick up a P2000SK only because I love the current p2000. I have had both the LEM an SA/DA triggers and "I" prefer the SA/DA. That SA trigger pull is amazingly accurate.

I'm interested.

Thanks. I'm going to give that recommended grip a try.

Hey Yall, I'm looking for a smith in the Chattanooga area that can install a set of meprolights. Do yall know if anyone around here has a sight tool for H&K? I'm not looking for anyone to punch it out. Thanks for the help!

I took this class a few years ago and it is excellent. Learned a lot of new techniques.

Here you go.... From an early age I have always been intrigued by the Old West and western movies and western culture. Most red blooded American boys grew up watching westerns on TV and reading about the Old West in books. After all, the American Culture is somewhat the Cowboy way. We fight for what is right. We put in a full day's work. We don't let our friends down, and we keep our word when we give it. We'll fight to right a wrong, but don't go looking for trouble.My heroes have always been cowboys and I spent many an hour in my childhood with my toy six shooters keeping my back yard free of rustlers and robbers. As I got older I began getting into martial arts and specificly the combative use of the gun. I practiced long and hard to develop my shooting skills, but there is more to it than the hardware aspect. I looked for books to read on mindset and technique and tactics and stories of shootings and what worked and what didn't. What I realized was that even though the west was not always as WILD as popular culture makes it out to have been, there were a fair number of folks getting into a fair number of gunfights. Maybe we could learn something from them? After all, if you learn from those that have done it, then maybe looking back at some Old West gunfights might be a good place to go for things that might help keep us alive today. So What did I find? Well, I started reading everything I could get my hands on. I soon found that there were a few individuals that were involved in multiple gunfights and seemed to always come out on top. So the obvious question was" why?". My research led me to find that the dynamics of the confrontations are really no different than they are today.So if the dynamics are the same, then we can look at what they did to survive their fights and apply that to ours today. I could go on for many pages using scores of historical gunfight examples but I will keep this confined to a few examples of fights involving two individuals. On one hand we have a famous lawman. A Civil War veteran and peaceofficer who developed a reputation as the "Prince Of Pistoleers". This man was James Butler Hickok, better known as "Wild Bill".The other was a man of considerable skill with a pistol who was just as short tempered as he was fast and accurate. This man was neither a lawman nor served in the army, but developed his skill at arms on his own from regular practice and combined that with a fierce will to win to become possibly the most dangerous man in the Old West....John Wesley Hardin. We'll look at Hickok first. In his famous gunfight with Dave Tutt July 21, 1865 in Springfield, Missouri they both met in the street "showdown" style. This was actually not very common regardless of what TV westerns lead us to believe. This fight stemmed from a watch won in a poker game,stoked by a rivalry over the same woman and ended with a man lying dead. Hickok had lost the watch to Tutt in a card game the previous night due to the fact that Hickok was unable to pay a debt he owed. Tutt took the watch as collateral. Tutt also went about town making a spectacle of wearing the watch and telling all who would listen that Hickok could not pay his debt. Hickok warned Tutt to cease and desist, but Tutt would not stop. So when they met in the town square the next day the fight was on. Hickok told Tutt to take the watch off, Tutt responded by pulling a pistol and firing. Hickok pulled his pistol, took careful aim and fired, sending a bullet through Tutt's heart from a distance of about 75 yards! Hickok immediately wheeled and pointed his pistol at Tutt supporters to his rear and they decided discretion to be the better part of valor and left. So what is there to learn here? A non gun culture guy might say "Hickok was a good shot" and they would be correct, but there is more here. Hickok was reported to have aimed carefully while Tutt fired wildly at him. Hickok fired a single decisive shot while his opponent fired wildly hitting nothing. So maybe accurate shooting wins gunfights? This is what we teach in the long distance shooting module of our Advanced Close Range Gunfighting class. And we see that Hickok turned and did a 360 degree scan after his opponent was down. How many of us practice this today in order to not be the victim of your opponent's possible accomplices? This is a basic tenet of gunfighting and we drill it in depth in our Close Range Gunfighting class. Another gunfight Hickok was involved in was July 17,1870 while he was town Marshal in Hays, Kansas. In this one the classic saloon brawl turns deadly. Hickok had previously angered members of the 7th cavalry (Custer's command) by roughing up and arresting one of their comrades.Three soldiers planned revenge and approached him, jumped him in a barroom and came close to ending his life. One jumped on his back another grabbed him by the arms as a third pulled a 1863 Remington Army issue pistol and stuck it to Hickok's head and pulled the trigger. The gun misfired and in the confusion Hickok was able to free his pistol and shoot two of the soldiers and make his escape back to his hotel room where he retrieved his rifle in case of further attack. Here we see a case where multiple assailants end up in a grappling situation with their victim. The victim has to access his weapon mid fight and shoot his way loose of the villians. Fortunately the bad guys had a faulty weapon. Does this sound very similar to what we see today with multiple assailants. Not all fights are one on one affairs. Sometimes the bad guys bring friends. And do you work on in-fight weapons access? Anyone can draw a gun from an exposed holster on the range, but things get more difficult and desperate when attacked by multiple opponents and you have to fend them off in order to access your pistol. This is where something like our Zero To Five Feet Pistol Gunfighting comes into play. We also see here the intangible element of luck, as the misfire saved Wild Bill. Sometimes luck is what saves you. Gunfights are dangerous affairs.Sometimes luck is all that seperates survivors from losers. The last item here is we see Wild Bill, faced with superior numbers did not stand and shoot it out. He got clear and armed himself with a rifle in case of further attack. The rifle has ALWAYS been a more effective tool than the pistol and still is today. A reason we put so much emphasis on having a rifle handy and knowing how to use it in our Rifle Gunfighting series of classes. The final Hickok fight we will look at is the October 5, 1871 gunfight in Abilene Kansas with Texas gambler/gunman Phil Coe. Phil Coe and Ben Thompson (another gunman of some fame from Texas) owned the Bulls Head Saloon in Abilene Kansas.There had never been any love lost between the three as Hickok was a Union veteran and the two Texans were Confederates. The 6 years since the end ofthe war had done little to make feelings any better about the war. Coe had once bragged to Hickok that he could "kill a crow on the wing" with a pistol, as a warning to Hickok. Hickok replied "Did the crow have a pistol? Was he shooting back? I will be". The animosity just grew and grew. The argument began over the sign in front of the Saloon depicting a bull in a "indelicate" pose. Hickok ordered that part of the sign be painted over and Coe said "no". Hickok requisitioned 2 painters to paint over the bull's offending anatomy and Coe was infuriated. He began stirring up trouble for Hickok among the texas cowhands in town and a general disturbance insued. That night as the cowhands all but rioted in the street Coe stood in front of the saloon firing his pistol. Hickok came up asking who was firing. Coe said he had shot at a stray dog. Hickok demanded his pistol, and in a flash Coe fired at Hickok. Hickok returned fire striking Coe in the stomach. Coe shot too quickly and the bullet had gone between Hickok's legs striking the dirt. A fast miss is no match for a solid hit. This is a basic concept that we convey in our Defensive Pistol Skills classes. As Hickok turned and did his 360 degree scan to insure he was not shot from behind ,a man with a pistol ran toward him. Hickok aimed and fired. Suddenly he realized he had just shot Mike Williams -his own deputy- who had heard the shooting and came running to Hickok's aid. From this we can learn a few more things. When we scan for other opponents we need to look closely so we do not shoot without identifying the target first. This can prevent a friendly fire incident from happening.The guy approaching with a gun may very well also be wearing a badge. We can also apply the reverse of this. It might not be a bad idea to present our gun "low profile" as we turn and scan. That way we will be less likely to get shot by responding officers. Again we see Hickok taking aim and making good center of mass hits. Accurate shooting still stops opponents...unfortunately even friendlies too. We see most of Hickok's fights generally being line of duty affairs where he is trying to either apprehend someone or disarm them. On the other hand the majority of John Wesley Hardin's fights were a case of an argument turned deadly, or him trying to keep from being apprehended. John Wesley Hardin grew up in a very violent period in east Texas during and just after the Civil War. Back then there was little order and what order there was , was the occupation force of the union army and afterwards their political appointees backed up by federal troops. This was during the lawless days of reconstruction. Hardin grew up with gun in hand and a resolve to survive. It would serve him well in the years to come. Whether Hardin was a homicidal maniac or just a guy with a quick temper that gambled and drank is open for debate, what is not open for debate is his skill with a pistol or his fighting mindset. We will now take a look at a couple of Wes Hardin's fights. His first gunfight was at the age of 16 in November 1867. He had been visiting an uncle and had gotten into a friendly wrestling match with an ex slave named Mage who was employed there chopping cotton. Hardin and his cousin both wrestled Mage who happened to be a very large man. Somewhere along the way Mage got angry and threatened to kill the two boys. The next day as Hardin rode his old horse home he was confronted on the road by the ex slave. Hardin says Mage charged him witha large stick.Mage took hold of the reigns and tried to hit him with the stick. Hardin drew his pistol and fired, but Mage kept coming. Hardin fired several shots finally felling the attacker. Mage died later that month. We see pistols are not terribly powerful stoppers. Here we see a large attacker with a contact weapon who requires more than one or two rounds to stop. Isn't that what we work in Force on Force drills today? Shoot until the threat is down. Hardin is believed to have been carrying a Colt Dragoon. So even multiple rounds from a .44 didn't immediately stop this enraged attacker. Something else to consider. Maybe placement is more important than bore diameter? It is also interesting to note that after this Hardin was more likely to shoot for the head. Many of his future victims were felled with a bullet in the brain. This is why we teach a burst to the chest followed immediately by a burst to the head if the assailant is still up. This is a basic tenet of our Close Range Gunfighting curriculum. We now skip ahead a few years to late 1870 and see Hardin travelling. The hotel he has stopped in has a bar and a very attractive woman sits in there apparently upset. Hardin approaches her and strikes up a conversation. She claims to be having relationship problems and he tries to comfort her. She asks if he'd like to go upstairs and apparently the prospect of a pretty and vulnerable young woman was more than he could resist. Upon enterring the room however there is a loud banging on the door. She says it is her boyfriend and he will kill Hardin. The boyfriend enters and confronts Hardin, pistol pulled. Hardin says he didn't know she was his girl and apologizes. The man asks Hardin to hand over his money.Hardin agrees and says he does not want any trouble. Hardin then drops the money at the man's feet . As he takes his eyes off Hardin and bends down to pick up the cash, Hardin draws a pistol and fires a round through the man's head. Turns out the man and woman had been running this same scam for some time. Here we see how not all bad guys are even guys and you can be rused into really bad situations if you are not careful.Girls can be bad guys too! However Hardin showed calm under duress and was able to use misdirection and a ruse of his own to reclaim the initiative and shoot a man who had him held at gunpoint. This "under the gun" situation is exactly the type situation we look to solve in our Zero to Five Foot Pistol Gunfighting classes. Next we will look at an incident in 1871 on a cattle drive to Abilene. Hardin's herd has been getting mixed up with a mexican herd that was coming up the trail behind them. An argument insued and Hardin was shot at by one of the vaqueros. He rode back to his own camp and with his cousin, armed himself with a pair of pistols. As the mexicans got closer Hardin and his cousin mounted their horses and charged them. Hardin ended up killing 5 of the 6 vaqueros, his cousin killing the other.This made Hardin a bit of a celebrity and word of this exploit soon found its way to Abilene and Marshal Hickok. Not exactly the best way to handle a livestock dispute these days, but if a fight is imminent it is best to be on the offensive not the defensive. That is something that Hardin was always prepared to do. He had no qualms about shooting first when a fight became apparent. If we wait too long to act, we can dig ourselves into a hole we cannot get out of. We all have to develop our "line in the sand" where if it is crossed we are prepared to fight. Otherwise we end up so far behind the curve that we can never catch up. That is why being able to pick up on pre assault cues and see the fight coming is so important. Once you know the fight is about to be on it is time to get proactive, not reactive! The final one we will look at is the May 26,1874 killing of Brown County Texas deputy Charles Webb. This was the shooting for which Hardin was convicted and sent to prison in 1877. That day Hardin had spent his birthday gambling on horse races and generally carousing and having a good time. That evening he was approached by a deputy from another county while standing in front of a saloon.He recognizes the man who approaches with one hand behind his back. Hardin asks Webb if he has any "papers" on Hardin and Webb says no that he is not thereon business he was just there to enjoy a night on the town. Hardin asks him then to join him for a drink and turns to walk toward the doors of the saloon.As Webb approaches he points the pistol he was holding behind his back and fires hitting Hardin in the side.At that moment one of Hardin's friends yells for Hardin to "look out"! Hardin lunges sideways at the same moment drawing and firing from probably a retention type position and shoots Webb in the face with his Smith and Wesson .44 American. Just looking at sheer dynamics and not getting bogged down in the obvious questions surrounding the shooting of a law enforcement officer (even if he was not on official police business and shot first from ambush), we have an assailant with pistol already drawn employing a ruse to get close to the victim. When the victim turns , leaving an opening, the assailant raises and fires his pistol. The "victim" here got off the line of attack and was hit with a peripheral hit instead of center of mass and was able to draw and return fire from a "stanceless" retention position while getting out of the way and score a headshot to end the altercation. This is very similar to what we teach with the Pistol Inquartata technique . How similar is that to a mugging/murder attempt in an alley in any city in America today? The ability to get off the "X", get your gun into play and fire quickly is just as important today as it was back then. While not all the scenarios are still something we would run into on a daily basis (I doubt I'll ever get in a dispute over cattle) they all do share characteristics of dynamics that we do still encounter in physical confrontation today in 2011. Just as it was in 1869 accurate shooting still ends fights.Hits to the chest and head stopped people then and tend to do the same today whereas peripheral hits may or may not. Sometimes you will not be able to just "Don't let them get close and shoot well" like is taught in some places, but may have to physically fight off multiple assailants in order to even access your weapon and shoot from retention to make space to get away. Rifles are still best if they can be accessed. When the shooting is over make sure no one is coming up behind you bydoing a 360 degree scan. And LOOK at who is coming not just glance and shoot if someone is approaching! The life you save may be a brother officer or a family member. We also see where we need to be aware of our surroundings and don't be quick to trust unknown contacts. They may just be employing a ruse to get close enough to be able to overtake you. If the fight is on, then the fight is on! Get proactive! You owe them no mercy.Get off the "X" and shoot them to the ground! If you are hit, keep fighting! Handguns are still underpowered when compared to long guns. Even if you get hit, odds are you will survive. But only if you keep from getting hit multiple times. Finish the fight! And practice is essential. Both Hickok and Hardin practiced with their armaments religiously. It is an interesting side note that both men were eventually killed by ambush from behind. They had developed the skill that made their killers so fearful of their ability that they had to resort to shooting them from behind. It is interesting to look back at where we came from. Sure we carry Glocks and AKs today and not 1851 Navy Colts and Winchesters. We have smokeless powder and 15 to 20 rd mags,instead of six shooters and big clouds of smoke when we pull the trigger, but the software hasn't really changed much since Cain and Abel. People still fight much the same.The dynamics of confrontation are still the same.The badguys still get close to rob rape or pillage and often bring friends. You still are less likely to get hit if you move. You still have to hit the badguys in important places to reliably stop them.So maybe looking back at where we came from will help keep us safe while we get to where we are going.

Day by Day books by Bourne are excellent. I started and finished them both in the past 72 hours.

I hear ya man. I've got M4-2000 and should have my stamp back in the next few weeks for a prodigy. I'm discovering that these NFA items dont like to be lonely. They enjoy the company of other NFA items..... Looking forward to your review on the YHM. I would like to get a .308 can next summer if the funds allow.

Sent in app 9/2/11 and went pending on 9/14/11. Just called and was told that the average time from pending to approval is now 5 months!!! Crazy. I got approval for another device this spring and only took 2 months for approval from pending time. Are yall seeing it take 5 months now?

Nice reply GA. I agree completely with the school of thought "you get what you pay for". Things are cheap for a reason: less productions costs, cheaper materials, not a lot of R&D and/or less marketing costs. All things considered, for a few hundred more dollars you can get a proven unit that will last a lifetime. Long term peace of mind is worth $200 to me.