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Depends on the gun and the holster, but 4:00 most of the time.

I have a love/hate relationship with SG.

Man, you're old!

But to borrow the logic of some here who like to carry mouseguns instead of service caliber weapons, it's better than nothing, right?

There's only one way to deal with a bully - walk up to him and knock the out of him!

Glad to hear this as my wife and I are long time Walgreens patrons. I really don't want to have to disarm or to have to go to another drug store.

Everyone would be screwed except the criminals...

I have a 9 compact that I carry. I have no reason to believe that it is inferior to any other plastic pistol and I'd put it up against a Glock any day.

And I heard that's because more folks own firearms chambered in .22 lr than any other caliber.

Yes, I have shot it before, but not with +P loads.

You sure that they are made here, or that all the components are made here? Are they assembled here?

I have carried in my doctor's office on several occasions. Once was for a physical. I simply undressed, laid my weapon and ammo on the chair and covered them up with my shirt and pants. No one was the wiser.

No thanks, man, the +P's were punishing enough. .357 magnums would probably either dislocate a finger or rip it right off.

Mine's rated for +P, I just didn't realize that's what I had loaded it with.

OK, I'll concede that point. But if I'm in someone's else's house, and they forbid discussion of certain topics, they do have that right. If I don't like it, I can leave.

Looks interesting, but I don't have enough time as it is to get the things done that I need to.

Congratulations! Just remember that it's worthless if you don't use it.

From Stephen A. Camp's Blog: Saturday, October 02, 2010 What About .380 ACP +P Ammunition? Questions concerning using +P ammunition in one's defensive .380 ACP pistols turn up now and again on Internet firearm forums which is fine except that .380 ACP in a +P version does not exist. It never has. SAAMI (Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute) set the rating guidelines by which a specific load's operating pressure is rated as standard or +P. They have been around since 1926. One of their responsibilities has been to publish information on firearm and ammunition-related standards. Several popular handgun calibers definitely do have SAAMI +P ratings, but the 380 just is not one of them. Several years ago an ammunition manufacturer known for handgun ammunition having higher-than-usual velocities ordered thousands of new .380 ACP cases. Since previous brass orders from this company had always included "+P" on the headstamp along with the caliber designation, the .380 ACP cases were mistakenly marked the same way and sent to the ammunition maker. The cases were used but subsequent orders for unfired brass made sure that the mistake was not repeated. Today the same load does not bear a +P designation but chronographs the same as the old mis-marked load. Several popular handgun cartridges can be had in +P versions including .38 Special and 9mm but not .380 ACP. The reason is that the vast majority of semiautomatic pistols chambered for it are straight blowback designs and the standard-pressure loadings are toward the top of the pressure envelope that this design can safely handle and some loads do generate higher velocities than others and possibly higher accompanying pressures but they are not necessarily operating within SAAMI specs. Some using this cartridge favor expanding loads while others recommend FMJ to insure adequate penetration but regardless of where you might stand on this issue, understand that currently-produced .380 ACP bearing a +P designation is simply incorrect information. Best hi-powers--handguns

My son and I went to the range yesterday. He wanted to shoot his SW9VE, and I took my M&P9c, since I had the external safety removed recently and wanted to make sure it worked like I wanted it to, which it did. As always, I had my J frame in my back pocket, so I decided it needed a little range time too (I know it's not a range gun). I happened to have some .38 target ammo so I loaded it up and commenced destroying the target. Well, it kicked like a magnum. Wow, I thought. I emptied the other four chambers in the cylinder before I realized I was shooting +P ammo. I ran another cylinder through and realized that my thumb was bleeding where it made contact with the cylinder release. I hit the target (at about 3 yards), but not in tight groups. It's a little hard to handle with +P, so I guess I'll stick to regular .38 sp loads. And, it's painful.

Never been to an NRA convention. Really looking forward to it.

Do you carry, clsutton21?

How is it censorship when you are in someone else's house?

When someone can prove to me that my NEF is a POS, then I'll sell it and get something else. Till then, it's a keeper.

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