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Child abuse, plain and simple. At the very least, these two monsters should receive the very same treatment.

Personal insults are completely uncalled for. That tells me that you have lost the argument.

So, are you saying that if he had been in any country other than the U.S., it would have been OK to send a drone to take him out?

Still waiting for someone to answer this one.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. Doesn't say "citizens." No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. Doesn't say "citizen."

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. Doesn't say "citizens." No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. Doesn't say "citizen."

Then why don't we just go into the hood and declare open season on bangers? After all, they may kill one of your loved ones some day.

I WISH YOU GUYS WOULD STOP POSTING PICS OF ZT KNIVES. DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH WILL POWER IT'S TAKING TO KEEP FROM BUYING ONE? AND IF THEY'RE LIKE OTHER KNIVES, THEY'RE LIKE LAY'S POTATO CHIPS - CAN'T STOP WITH JUST ONE. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! DAMN YOUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!! Oh, and BTW, what kind of Kershaw is that in the very bottom of the photo?

This is absolutely, positively, 100% true. I've seen it myself.

Sorry, but your opinion or my opinion has no bearing on constitutional law. Neither do feelings. Besides, you don't know me well enough to make that kind of assessment.

But we haven't officially declared war on anyone since 1942.

I have always struggled with the "wasted vote" concept. In past years, I have been guilty of not voting my conscience, and I'm going to change that in 2012.

"while making the donuts" is the key here. I believe that phrase would be left out of a company firearms policy. "The employee is forbidden from carrying a firearm while making donuts." LOL

But that's not the issue. You are still an employee of the company, and bound by the company's policy when you are on their property. I'm not aware of any companies who make that kind of distinction in their policy manual.

He was riding in a truck. What does this have to do with constitutional rights? The "loved one" scenario doesn't change anything.

I'll tell you - the more I listen to Ron Paul, the more I agree with, respect, and like the man. He may just get my vote next year.

Of course, that fact didn't stop the gun haters from calling the proposed legislation the "Guns in BARS" bill.

Based on what evidence?

What I'm saying is that either we value the Constitution or we don't. Not part of it, but ALL of it. It's not a smorgasbord. That means that unless they are engaged in the act of seriously harming another citizen, an American citizen gets due process of law under the Fifth Amendment. You can't deny someone his rights just because you hate him.

But I still don't understand the difference. In both cases, you don't stop being an employee just because you come in after hours to either get something you forgot or to spend some money. If weapons are forbidden, and unless company policy specifically states that an employee may disregard that policy when he is not "officially" at work, then how can someone say it's OK for the employee to carry there just because he/she has now put on their "customer" hat?

I think that's a stretch. The founders were more visionary than many people like to give them credit for. They certainly had more vision than anyone alive today, and they certainly were not a bunch of dumb old white men.

Well, I truly apologize to everyone if it came across that way. It was not my intention.

I guess the point is that once you are hired by a company, you are considered an employee 24/7 until you either leave or you are let go. I don't consider myself unemployed when I leave at the end of the day and then employed again when I get to work the next morning. LOL

You can't get much more inexpensive than a Phoenix Arms HP22. You can find them used for around $100. They are surprisingly fun to shoot, but a pain to clean.

So, you're saying that because it's been going on for years, we should just bend over and take it up the rear??