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They are meeting now. Discussing item #4 on the calendar. Our first bill is #8. http://tnga.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=63&event_id=118

Senate Floor Session starts at 5:00 Nashville time. The Handgun Bills are on the Regular Calendar. 8. SB0976 by *Beavers, *Faulk, *Crowe. (*HB0716 by *Niceley, *Fincher, *Watson, *Johnson C, *Dean, *Rich, *Cobb J, *Evans, *Carr, *Hill, *Todd, *Faulkner, *Lollar, *Campfield, *Bell, *Kelsey, *Swafford, *Hensley, *Bass, *McCormick, *Weaver.) Handgun Permits - As introduced, allows any resident who has a valid handgun carry permit to possess a handgun while within the boundaries of any state park. - Amends TCA Title 39, Chapter 17, Part 13 and Title 70. Summary for SB0976 S. FW&M Comm. 6-3-0 22. SB0578 by *Jackson, *Crowe, *Gresham. (*HB0390 by *Fincher, *Evans, *Lollar, *Roach, *Ford , *Dean, *Todd, *Rich, *Eldridge, *Moore, *Montgomery, *Fraley, *Hensley, *Niceley, *McCormick.) Handgun Permits - As introduced, permits handgun carry permit holders to possess or carry a loaded rifle, loaded shotgun, or loaded magazine or clip therefore while in a motor vehicle. - Amends TCA Title 39, Chapter 17. The Abstract summarizes SB0578 as introduced. S. Jud Comm. 6-2-1

HB0962/SB1127 Passed today out of the Senate. Governor's Office next stop???

Didn't see anything on this. Excuse me if a repost. Senate bill 0976 passed yesterday 5/12/09 out of Finance Committee and was sent to the Calandar Committee. You can watch it here by clicking on 0976 under the video screen. Senator Beavers deserves a lot of credit for what she's done for gun owners in Tennessee. She speaks well for us in this clip. Senate-Finance,Ways and Means

Senate Backs Allowing Loaded Guns in National Parks - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com Senate Backs Allowing Loaded Guns in National Parks Republican Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma sponsored the amendment, which would restore a Bush administration policy allowing loaded guns in national parks. WASHINGTON -- The Senate has approved a measure that would allow people to carry loaded guns in national parks and wildlife refuges. Republican Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma sponsored the amendment, which would restore a Bush administration policy allowing loaded guns in national parks. A federal judge blocked the policy in March. The Obama administration said it would not appeal the ruling. The gun amendment was attached to a bill imposing restrictions on credit card companies. The amendment was approved 67-29.

That's my take on it but I have heard that so many times this year and in the past that I got to thinking that maybe they know something that I don't.

In the link to the news article there are a lot of comments posted where this story and law is being debated. One response contained this: There are quite a few responses where the comment is made that insurance rates will go sky high for restaurants because of this law. I find it hard to believe that to be the case with all the restaurants in other states where this is allowed. But I don't know. Does anyone have any information on the effect on insurance rates in states where guns are allowed in restaurants where alcohol is served?

Could people be more misinformed or deliberately misleading in what they are saying about this bill? Johnson City bar owner: 'Alcohol and guns don't mix' - Kingsport Times-News Online Johnson City bar owner: 'Alcohol and guns don't mix' By NET News Service Published May 10th, 2009

Didn't wan't to hijack the thread on "Restaurant Carry" so I'm posing this question here. While browsing through some of the comment sections in online newspaper articles concerning the passage of the Restaurant Carry Legislation, I am seeing more and more posts that are saying something to the effect that many, many restaurants where alcohol is served will now just start posting to disallow carry into their establishments. This got me to wondering whether this is likely to happen in Tennessee. Since 38 other states currently allow concealed carry in restaurants that serve alcohol I would just like to know if many restaurants in those states really post "no-carry" signs in their establishments or is this just wishful-thinking on the part of antis in TN? I posted this question on a nation wide forum that has thousands of members and got a lot of responses from folks all around the country and the consensus of opinion is that restaurants where alcohol is served generally do not post no-carry signs. Even the chain restaurants generally don't post. To be sure, some places do post but overall it isn't done a lot. So, what is your experience when traveling to other states that already allow carry in restaurants the serve alcohol? Have you seen a lot of signs? I would also be interested to know if anyone on this board has had any conversations with restaurant owners/managers to find out what they personally plan to do about signs and posting when this becomes law.

Here's a poll to hit. The Times News has been a pretty friendly paper for gun owners. But right now this poll doesn't look too good. Kingsport Times-News Online - Kingsport, Tennessee Breaking News and Information Do you think it's a good idea to allow Tennessee handgun carry permit holders to bring their guns into businesses that serve alcohol? No. 50% Yes. 46% I don't care one way or the other. 5% Total Votes: 533

I had never heard of Rep. Cobb from Spring City. I don't even know where Spring City is. But he gave an endorsement for this bill today in a way that you don't often hear a politician give. I copied it down word for word and I thought ya'll might find it interesting. He said: If you watch the video: House Session he speaks at 04:24 on the clock. For those who think it does no good to call or write your representative, here is one who says that is exactly what caused him to vote for something that he himself did not agree with. To all those who did something, in whatever capacity it was, congratulations on being part of the reason this has come to pass. And considering the difficulty of the opposition in years gone by, that is no small thing to get done.

No. Restaurant carry is being worked on with another bill not on this list.

The first six bills in the OP were rolled to next year.

I believe that bill was sent to a "summer study" and won't be brought back up until next year.

Bill Summary HB1806 Present law makes it an offense for a person to possess or carry a firearm not used solely for instructional or school-sanctioned ceremonial purposes, in or on any school building, bus, or grounds or any other property owned, used or operated by any board of education, school, college or university board of trustees, regents or directors for the administration of any public or private educational institution. The offense is a Class B misdemeanor, unless committed with an intent to go armed, in which case it is a Class E felony. Under present law, the Class B misdemeanor offense does not apply if the firearm is contained within a private vehicle operated by the adult and is not handled by the adult, or by any other person acting with the expressed or implied consent of the adult, while the vehicle is on school property. This bill adds that the Class E felony offense also does not apply in such circumstances; however, under this bill, the exception will only apply to the offenses if the person has a handgun carry permit.

Smokeyjones: MediaBuster: :up: I would have given you guys stars but I couldn't find any. Two good posts.

I don't understand why all of these bills are being considered today since most of them seem to already be covered in other bills that are moving through the legislature or have been shelved. But this is the entire calendar for today's committee meeting at 12:00 (Nashville time) Tennessee General Assembly Calendar 1. HB1801 by *West. (*SB1615 by *Beavers.) Handgun Permits - As introduced, provides that "handgun carry permit" may be used interchangeably with "weapon carry permit" where applicable, thereby imposing any rights or duties that apply to persons with a handgun carry permit to persons who carry a lawful weapon. - Amends TCA Title 39, Chapter 17, Part 13. The Abstract summarizes HB1801 as introduced. 2. HB1805 by *West. (*SB1619 by *Beavers.) Handgun Permits - As introduced, exempts holder of handgun carry permit from prohibition against carrying a firearm in any public park, playground, civic center, or other public recreational area or facility. - Amends TCA Title 39, Chapter 17, Part 13. The Abstract summarizes HB1805 as introduced. 3. HB1806 by *West. (*SB1622 by *Beavers.) Handgun Permits - As introduced, allows non-student adult who has a permit to carry a handgun to carry gun onto school grounds if gun remains within private vehicle and is not handled by the adult or a person acting with the adult's consent. - Amends TCA Title 39, Chapter 17, Part 13. Summary for HB1806 4. HB1807 by *West. (*SB0576 by *Jackson.) Handgun Permits - As introduced, allows person who has permit to carry a handgun to carry gun in place where alcohol is served for consumption on premises if person is not consuming alcohol or is not otherwise prohibited by posting provisions. - Amends TCA Title 39, Chapter 17, Part 13. Summary for HB1807 5. HB1808 by *West, *Fincher. (*SB1620 by *Beavers.) Firearms and Ammunition - As introduced, extends from 60 to 90 days the amount of time that a permit holder has to notify the department of safety that the holder's address has changed. - Amends TCA Title 39, Chapter 17. The Abstract summarizes HB1808 as introduced. 6. HB1809 by *West, *Fincher. (*SB1621 by *Beavers.) Firearms and Ammunition - As introduced, clarifies that rules concerning weapons shall be subject to review by the house and senate government operations committees. - Amends TCA Title 39, Chapter 17, Part 13. The Abstract summarizes HB1809 as introduced. 7. HB1700 by *Watson. (*SB0518 by *McNally, *Woodson, *Burchett.) Criminal Procedure - As introduced, enacts the "Exclusionary Rule Reform Act." - Amends TCA Title 24, Chapter 7 and Title 40, Chapter 17. Summary for HB1700

Seven bills pertaining to firearms to be discussed in today's session at 2:00 (Nashville time). The calendar for today's meeting is here: Tennessee General Assembly Calendar Orders 1. SB0976 by *Beavers, *Faulk, *Crowe. (*HB0716 by *Niceley, *Fincher, *Watson, *Johnson C, *Dean, *Rich, *Cobb J, *Evans, *Carr, *Hill, *Todd, *Faulkner, *Lollar, *Campfield, *Bell, *Kelsey, *Swafford, *Hensley, *Bass, *McCormick, *Weaver.) Handgun Permits - As introduced, allows any resident who has a valid handgun carry permit to possess a handgun while within the boundaries of any state park. - Amends TCA Title 39, Chapter 17, Part 13 and Title 70. Summary exists for SB0976 2. *SB1912 by *Norris. (HB1665 by *Todd, *Rich, *Eldridge, *Maggart, *Lynn, *Hardaway, *Cobb T, *Faulkner, *Evans, *Dean, *Brooks H, *Montgomery, *McDaniel, *Harrison, *Niceley, *Sargent, *Haynes, *Hensley, *Hill, *Halford, *Lundberg, *Roach, *Johnson C, *Ford , *Watson, *Campfield.) Firearms and Ammunition - As introduced, allows a commissioned reserve deputy sheriff as authorized in writing by the sheriff to carry firearms as a law enforcement officer. - Amends TCA Section 39-17-1350. Summary exists for *SB1912 28. SB1519 by *Burchett, *Jackson. (*HB0961 by *Bell, *McCord, *Tindell, *Todd, *Jones U, *Williams, *Evans, *Rich, *Lollar, *Weaver, *Dennis, *Halford, *Shipley, *Hensley, *Hawk, *Cobb J.) Firearms and Ammunition - As introduced, authorizes person with handgun carry permit to possess firearm in a refuge, public hunting area, wildlife management area, or on national forest land. - Amends TCA Title 39, Chapter 17, Part 13 and Title 70. 36. *SB0019 by *Gresham, *Ford, O., *Barnes, *Crowe. (HB0082 by *Shaw, *Fincher, *Rich, *Cobb T, *Bone, *Ferguson.) Firearms and Ammunition - As introduced, authorizes current and retired judges who possess a handgun carry permit to carry a firearm under same circumstances and conditions as law enforcement officers and correctional officers. - Amends TCA Title 39, Chapter 17, Part 13. 41. *SB1908 by *Jackson. (HB1924 by *Fincher, *Evans.) Firearms and Ammunition - As introduced, enacts the "Second Amendment Protection Act" prohibiting the sale of microstamped firearms or ammunition in this state. - Amends TCA Title 39, Chapter 17, Part 13. Summary exists for *SB1908 46. *SB1834 by *Kyle. (HB1935 by *Camper.) Guns - As introduced, establishes the super bounty fund and enacts the "Tennessee Gun Offender Registration, Verification, and Tracking Act of 2009." - Amends TCA Title 39 and Title 40. Summary exists for *SB1834 47. SB2236 by *Kyle. (*HB2249 by *Fincher, *Turner M.) Handgun Permits - As introduced, requires the department of safety, upon receiving information that a handgun permit applicant or holder does not meet eligibility requirements for a permit, to review the arrest records with the arresting agency and review any records of conviction to determine if the applicant or holder meets the eligibility requirements. - Amends TCA Title 4; Title 8; Title 16; Title 33; Title 38; Title 39; Title 40; Title 49; Title 54; Title 55 and Title 65. The Abstract summarizes SB2236 as introduced.

Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey on the gun bills: JohnsonCityPress.com - Local News - Johnson City, TN

Senate panel considers guns in TN parks bill : State and Regional News : Knoxville News Sentinel

Judiciary met today and debated State Park carry. See it here: Senate-Judiciary Click on SB0976 under the screen.

The full House is scheduled to meet at 4:00 p.m.(Nashville time) Todd talked like he would like to have it voted on tonight if he can. I think its safe to say that if it passes tonight or Thursday in the House, the only thing that could stop it would be a veto by the Gov. and that would probably only be temporary. I hope that's right!?!?

I think the vote was 3-2 on the House side and unless I'm mistaken it was unanimous on the Senate side for passage of the Senate version with no restrictions on carry.

Everybody is just having their say.

Rep. Armstrong is absolutely insane.