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I hand them both. Last time I was stopped for speeding by THP, the trooper just asked where it was, and let me off with a warning. I'm not sure if there was any relation, but I'm going to keep doing it just in case.

I think you could probably shoot that at the WMA range in Cheatham County.

After a couple of beers and some beer cheese soup, I'll be pretty explosive.

His signs have meaning to me. They mean I won't be eating at any establishment owned by this anti-gun, illogical, half-witted, uninformed, maniacal, fear-mongering mental midget for brains. DISCLAIMER: I couldn't come up with any more insults to throw in one sentence. Feel free to imply any that I missed.

If anyone's interested in the Nasvhille area, The Flying Saucer would be the place to go afterward. Something like 150 beers, cigars. and the beer cheese soup is delicisous!

Rotation? Where do you live? Compton? Just kidding of course. That just conjured in me an image of shootouts every night at the homestead. Of course, I'm not sure how you manage to NOT have shootouts every night after reading the latest Brady propaganda.

David, I believe you will be seeing me there. Looking forward to it.

Good ear! I had to listen to it three times to catch it. "Nothing Else Matters" right?

I carry concealed with one in the chamber. If I wanted something to throw at an attacker, I would have bought a rock, not a gun.

Welcome to forum Dano. Thanks very much for your service.

Vice nice gun, and a job well done. You should be proud.

Name: BB King's Blues Club Address: 2nd Ave N. City: Nashville Details: No sign posted that I could see. Update: Went Friday night carrying concealed. Despite a very crowded room including <drum roll please> #27, former running back for the Tennessee Titans, Eddie George (sitting right in front of us), no incidents.

Haha. Oh well. It's not a huge point anyway. But the lefties like to latch on to those statements like the leeches they are.

Not calling you a liar. Believe me, I'm not polite enough to veil an insult.

I too think that is fair. Before this law passed, if you chose to go out to a restaurant to eat, you had no choice but to leave your weapon at home. Now, however, you can go eat Italian food at a place that will protect your rights, or one that doesn't. So if you choose to go to one that doesn't, you have consciously made the decision to spend that time unable to defend yourself. The restaurant owner, even though they posted, did not make that decision for you. Therefore I believe they are relieved of liability. You have to be responsible for your own decisions and the consequences thereof.

What the heck were you doing on the Kos? I've got my eye on you.

This is bull. Although the CIC is the ultimate authority for all orders given in the military, it in no way makes anything they do legal or illegal. Did he get verification that Bush was "legal"? I seriously doubt that. I'm not sure what his motivations are, but he is misguided in his argument.

If only I were half that articulate. If it weren't so long, I'd add it to my signature.

"He said carrying a gun in a park is 'looking for trouble.'" I swear I'm going to punch the next person I hear say that right in the mouth. That is the dumbest argument I have ever heard. Does anyone who has ever had a conscious thought in their lifetime actually believe that anyone goes "looking for trouble"? Seriously? Do the 1.5 million people every year that use their firearms in self defense go looking for trouble, or did trouble find them despite their best efforts? Do the thousands of people murdered every year by gangs overflowing with illegal aliens go looking for trouble, or is the very presence of these gangs the real trouble? Typical liberal emotional argument. It's a good thing we law-abiding HCP holders don't allow our emotions to control us in the same way, isn't it?

Very good letter. I would like to offer one piece of constructive criticism though. HCP holders are not immune from the ills of society, unfortunately. While our rate of crime is far below the rate of the general public, it does happen. So instead of saying "never" I would encourage all of us point out the Significantly lower rate. I only point this out because the huge flaw in anti-gun arguments is their distortion of facts. While I know this was not your intent it could be construed that way by the anti-gun lobby and we certainly don't want to be drug down to their level. Again, my criticism is meant to be constructive. Great letter though. I hope it finds them with an open mind.

I would like to share with you a response I got from Jane Miller. I sent her and the rest of the city council the same thing I sent to Memphis, and received a response from two council members. One was a one sentence response stating that he (can't remember which one, deleted it) was taking into account the safety of everyone. Yea right. The second was from Jane Miller. The thing I found most interesting is that Ms. Miller is not even a gun owner, yet strongly supports our 2nd Amendment rights. It just goes to show you that even among non gun owners there are those that can think clearly and make up their own mind. Kudos to Ms. Miller for her efforts. With her permission, I am posting her response and the statement she read at the city council meeting. I also would like to thank her for standing up and making these statements even though I suspect she knew she was fighting a battle that was won before she walked into that meeting. Dear Sir: I was one of the two who voted NOT to opt out on this important decision. My vote was based on facts, the law and the constitution to which I have sworn to uphold. Attached is an a guest column (by me) that was published in the Oak Ridge Observer last Thursday, July 16. I also gave a long speech before the vote supporting the law-abiding citizens who are HCPs. We gave it our best shot. Your NRA members present at the meeting and those who I have talked with, e-mailed with all were professional, well prepared and informed, and most respectful. God Bless the NRA! Jane Miller Mayor Pro Tem City of Oak Ridge ========================================================= I want to thank all the citizens/voters on both sides of the issue who are here tonight and/or who contacted me and other council members by phone, e-mail and in person to provide your input. I did my best to answer all e-mails and phone calls and if I missed responding to you, it was an oversight. I am not a gun owner so this was a learning process for me, and I have researched this issue for many hours. The first thing I learned is that the permitted gun carriers must be undergo a backrground check, complete state approved training, be finger-printed and pay a fee. When you ask someone do you want guns in parks – any sane person would say “NOâ€. But this is not really the question. The real question here is, does prohibiting permit holders in parks make the parks less safe or more safe? National Crime Statistics maintained by the U.S. Justice department show that about 83,000 permit holders effectively use firearms in defense of themselves or others each year - and most of those were during violent criminal attacks. A particularly important factor is that the crime prevention is largely independent of permit holders actually being there - criminals can't tell who is and who isn't carrying so they are afraid to attack anyone. This is a huge public benefit. Police can not be everywhere to prevent criminal attack and cannot guarantee citizens protection from it - also law enforcement officers are not legally required to provide protection for any individual citizen as upheld by the US Supreme court. In a perfect world we would not need any guns – not even the police……but unfortunately, we have finally ADMITTED we have a CRIME problem in Oak Ridge. The permit holders are not the ones we need to worry about. They do not brandish their guns or shoot up places they visit. For the most part you would never know they are carrying. Although some try to demonize and portray these law abiding citizens as “nut cakes†and “vigil antesâ€. This is just not the case. The Permit Holders who have contacted me are people I know and are known in the community – they are doctors, lawyers, engineers, veterans, work at Y-12, business owners, serve on our city boards, and are leaders in our community and other professional working people. They are parents and people who own homes, pay taxes, and contribute to this community. They are childrens coaches, attend church and contribute financially to all our many charities. They are not “John Wayne†types looking for a “wild, wild west shoot outâ€. Crime rates have dropped in every single state that adopted carry permits and crime rates have stayed the same or gone up in every state that did not. Some of the e-mails I received are from citizens who worry about what might happen or what could happen. Some who would ban legally carried guns worry that accidental discharge from a dropped gun or other accident could cause collateral damage to people and even death. There is no evidence to show that responsible gun owners represent that risk at any significant level. The argument of the bad behavior parents at the children’s sports parks is often used. Although this has not happened, maybe there should be a “code of conduct†for parents who attend these events or they be asked to leave. Or, if we don’t want guns at a Children’s events – post a sign at that event. With no compelling evidence that responsible, licensed gun owners represent a danger to park patrons, the Second Amendment, the Tennessee Constitution and a host of laws and court rulings should be allowed to govern the issue. Let's follow laws, not the rule of fear. Would this be enforceable by City of OR if the Council were to vote tonight to “Opt Outâ€?Note that TCA 39-17-1311 specifies the size (at least six inches (6) high and fourteen inches (14) wide, wording, and locations for signs would have to be posted – which are per subject TCA “all entrances to the property, any building or structure located on the property, such as restrooms, picnic areas, sports facilities, welcome centers, gift shops, playgrounds, swimming pools, restaurants and parking lotsâ€. Such signs would also be very unsightly for our city parks and our city. Questions for City Manager: 1.Given the TCA explicit wording about where signs must be posted if we “opt out†-- How many signs would you post at Bissell Park - 25, 50, or 100? 2.How much would one sign cost the city to erect, labor and materials? 3.How many total signs – 200, 300 or ? - would you post city wide in Oak Ridge if the opt out passes tonight? 4.Do you have a cost estimate for such posting of these signs city-wide? 5.How would we enforce? We can’t but we will not have to worry about it because the gun permit folks are law abiding citizens. Why are we going to post signs we cannot enforce when we cannot even enforce the laws now on the books – specifically illegal guns. Why don’t we try to enforce the laws we have rather than waste valuable resources on signs that apply to law-abiding citizens only? The opt out posting will only benefit the criminal element in Oak Ridge. I kept a tally of citizen comments to me this past weekon this issue, and the result of citizen input that I received was 60 against opt out, and 40 for opt out. This is based on over 125+ total citizen inputs that I received. The old bumper sticker says it best, "When Guns Are Outlawed, Only Outlaws Will Have Guns" – in Oak Ridge parks if this opt out passes. Thank you.

Welcome Don. Great to have you here. I too used to live in Clarksville, but moved a bit closer to Nashville because I got tired of the commute. Thank you very much from a grateful nation for your service.

Guess I should have mentioned, I play on Xbox360. Darn.

I qualified expert (39/40) in basic training with a Vietnam era M16A1 that had been cleaned thousands of times. Heck, I probably cleaned it at least 100 times. Sounds a bit suspicious to me too.

Prestige Edition is $150 and comes out Nov. 10. The regular version will be between $60 and $80.