wileecoyote

[quote name="Dolomite_supafly" post="1154552" timestamp="1401708759"]The OP obviously knows and trusts the guys in the video. The target guy was shooting the OP's gun.[/quote] Even more reason to be safe, you wouldn't want to hurt your friends. Knowing and trusting each other, or being more "experienced" doesn't make it safe or foolproof. Accidents happen, so why cross the line? The best way to treat your close friends is to let the line go cold as soon as they need to reset targets. I love TGO and our members are typically a cut above other forums, however some of the comments and attitudes towards safety in this thread are almost impossible to fathom. I don't think we should plan any TGO range days anytime soon... LOL... :D

Open carry is best when it's legal everywhere but practiced nowhere. These guys (and anyone who open carries in general) are illogical or uneducated morons that are only hurting our pro-gun pro-freedom cause.

There is absolutely NO COMPARISON between professional military or special forces training ("SF Training") and what was shown in the video starting this thread. "SF Training" (when conducted properly) typically involves the use of specialized ranges (and targets) built specifically for the more complicated scenarios, the use of body armor and other advanced protective gear, highly experienced shooters which have first trained progressively (often remaining with the same team) under safer conditions for many months or years, and the repetitive use of less-than-lethal gear prior to running the same drill with live fire training. And even then, many safeguards are taken to minimize risk as much as possible. In fact the most experienced shooters will be more safe rather than throwing caution to the wind, because they have often seen more than a few accidents or safety violations and thus developed a high regard for their own safety as well as their team. No shooter that is both highly trained and professional would ever willingly violate basic safety rules or do anything remotely like what was shown in that video (changing a target in front of a live firing line, or continuing to shoot while someone else advances forward of the firing line). Those who do are the ones that show up in the news, in court, in jail, and/or in the hospital / morgue. Assuming that you and your close friends are "so good" or "bad-ass" that you don't need to follow basic safety rules is a sure recipe for disaster. The vast majority of the general public, including most "experienced" shooters and even quite a few LEO have relatively little advanced training and a very small amount of live-fire practice on an ongoing basis. This is why nearly all professional shooting ranges have such tight restrictions on their use, and they insist on very rigid safety rules. Sure, in an actual life or death scenario you might inadvertently violate a few safety rules in order to protect your life or the lives of others, but if you are trained properly then your training includes how to minimize or avoid unsafe acts even in those situations. And regardless of your training level, you sure as hell don't send your family members or close friends down range to hold bad-guy targets beside and behind themselves so you can practice your live-fire shooting to protect them.

Unsafe, no excuses, no circumstances make it Ok. If I was present I would have shut the line down immediately, counseled all parties with proper training followed by a warning, and if it recurred I would boot them off the range, calling the law if necessary. But then I'm a certified RSO, and I don't suffer fools with lethal implements.

You can ship from aim to any ffl dealer, not just those on their website list. Just fill in your ffl dealer info in the shipping address section. I use d&t arms in Goodlettsville, cheap transfer prices and great service. Worth the drive.

Decent guns, worth the price, but I believe they have soft aluminum frames so they tend to show a good amount of wear from friction and use. If you get all steel ones they will be more pleasant to shoot. 32 acp not going to be cheap though so you probably won't shoot it much, and I'd not rely on it for defense unless it was all I had.

Don't know, I never looked into the cost of renting a trailer, although I did briefly consider this. Decided not to do it since I didn't really have a good spot to park the trailer for a few weeks, and it would have made it more difficult for folks to load their bags when picking up, and I doubt it could have been rented including drop off and pick up for less than $150, but who knows. Thankfully a non-issue now, and hopefully we will have free or cheap warehouse space for our next huge order in 2 years.

Delivery has been completed successfully, at last! Got up early this morning, called the dispatch, confirmed they sent it out on a 28' lift gate truck. Met the truck driver on time, only to see that it was actually a tractor trailer rig towing a 28' lift gate back end, so it was a lot longer and wider than we had planned, yet this allowed the driver to back it in at more of an angle so we were still able to get the lift gate right into the entrance of the unit, thus avoiding the gravel issue. We did have to use one of the OSB sheets to fill in a gap between the lift ramp and concrete slab but the OSB did the job perfectly. The storage door height turned out to be an issue for a few pallets but most of them fit right in with only an inch to spare, and we simply removed the top layer from the tall pallets to make them fit. The last pallet would not fit inside the unit but we unloaded about half of that into my truck and stacked the rest of the bags loosely against the other pallets so it all worked out ok. Tipped the driver a little cash and one of my bags of charcoal for helping us unload, which was tricky and took some heaving. Tipped my friend for helping me unload as well. So in the end we still got it delivered and kept the extra costs around $150, which I don't mind spending to help out so many friends that will benefit from this order. I am just glad I got enough to last for 2 years, as I don't want to go through this hassle again anytime soon. Thanks to all of you for your tips and suggestions. :)

It is good news to see that they have a plan to make money, so that the program actually has a chance of surviving after the initial donations are used up. And anything which gets kids to read and learn will definitely have a positive impact with lasting value, at least for those who use it and find it beneficial. So it will likely be a good thing, as long as the organization remains efficient and doesn't end up squandering the funds or giving very few things away to those in need. My only criticism of the campaign is that the bold title of the Kickstarter web page says "Bring Reading Rainbow Back for Every Child, Everywhere." which strongly implies that they are going to "bring back" something that formerly existed, namely the old TV show, however this is simply not true. They are instead planning to create something new and different (electronic media content) and deliver it in a different way (online and mobile interfaces via a subscription model). Also, the video more or less reinforces that initial impression, remaining sufficiently vague so that most folks who simply read the title and watched the short video (or only saw a short news story or forum post like this one) would be under the impression that the old TV show was coming back, and that it would be free for many or all. I am sure they did this intentionally, to take advantage of the nostalgic emotion that would motivate people to donate based on their desire to see an old favorite TV show restored. Despite the misleading yet typical marketing approach, I have no issue with what they are doing. Those who donate are responsible to read the details and decide for themselves if it is worthy of their donation. Personally I prefer to donate to organizations that are a bit more direct and transparent in their marketing efforts, and ideally to those that are non-profit and non-government-funded. So if any of you start up an effort to bring back Captain Kangaroo or Mister Rogers on TV free for all, in a non-profit manner then I will definitely send you some funds. :)

[quote name="Mike.357" post="1153554" timestamp="1401467435"]be careful where you shoot them things. I shot some out of a M1 carbine once and started a leaf fire on my dirt pile.[/quote]I used to downplay the risk of tracers causing fires, I figured as long as I had a proper backstop it would be OK. Well we took some 5.56 Nato military tracers out to a public range one day, it had a huge mountain as a backstop, nothing but hundreds of vertical feet of dirt, covered by some huge fallen timber logs, no loose brush. On the day we were shooting it had been raining like a monsoon for almost 24 hours, and was still pouring so bad that it was difficult to see the targets through the scopes. So everything was completely soaked and muddy. Yet those tracers set the mountainside on fire after just a few shots, and it burned red hot flames despite the rain. We walked up to check it and the wet logs were burning near each point of impact. Took us 15 minutes to put it out, and the owners of the range and all the other shooters were shocked, never seeing anything like it, and we would have bet anything against a fire being started under those conditions. So have fun but please be careful, more careful than you might think necessary.

[quote name="monkeylizard" post="1153412" timestamp="1401421245"]Then there's this: http://youtu.be/llDlxHVbA_g[/quote] Exactly why I was asking questions. It just didn't make sense what I saw in the promo video. Probably still a good thing, but I personally would be pissed if I donated money based solely on the promo video, which implies they are bringing back that nostalgic TV show many of you seem to remember and loved, only to find out they are NOT bringing back the TV show and it will NOT be free, and the person plugging it is doing it for profit. Boo.

[quote name="Clod Stomper" post="1153407" timestamp="1401420526"]Probably would have been easier to rent or borrow a pallet jack an buy a few 5x7 tarps and had them delivered to your driveway.[/quote] Maybe easier, but much more expensive to get pallets delivered to residential address, and this stuff can't sit out in the elements, even with tarps.

[quote name="TripleDigitRide" post="1153387" timestamp="1401416563"]Looks like it may be available at a few locations around the Nashville/Franklin/Murfreesboro areas. I'll try to pick up a bag or two. I see they offer the option to buy by the pallet on their website. I'll keep that in mind.[/quote] Yes, a few dealers in TN sell it now, but for about $30-$35 per bag after tax. I promised the WGC owners not to divulge our discount pricing online, but I can tell you it's an awesome discount. It gets cheaper by volume of course, but as you see, large pallet shipments are a lot of work unless you own or have cheap access to a warehouse.

[quote name="TripleDigitRide" post="1153368" timestamp="1401415158"]I think I have some Royal Oak lump charcoal that's made in Brazil.[/quote]For those that have used Royal Oak, it's generally one of the better brands commonly available fairly cheap at local big box stores like Walmart and Lowes, but it and similar brands tend to be rated in the middle to bottom third of all hardwood lump charcoal. I used to cook with it too, until I tried a bag of Wicked Good Charcoal and it was amazing, night and day difference, now I'll never cook with anything else. There's a good reason why our group purchases so much, and we have more than 40 guys (plus a few gals) that drive in from all over TN, AL, and KY to get it.

[quote name="UncleJak" post="1153363" timestamp="1401414622"]Ive been watching this wondering what it could be. I finally have a guess: charcoal.Sent barefoot from the hills of Tennessee[/quote]Winner! 420 bags (22 lbs. each) of "Wicked Good Charcoal", 100% all natural hardwood lump. Currently holds 2 of the top 5 spots in the world as voted by thousands of cooks, beating out more than 95 competing products. Used by 5-star restaurants and famous chefs, and by many overweight middle-aged men who love to grill, smoke, and devour great food. Most in our group use Big Green Eggs, but some use traditional grills or smokers. This stuff is normally quite expensive, and not too many dealers sell it due to cost, but we get it near half price by ordering wholesale in bulk. Congrats Uncle Jack, you win a free bag if you care to pick it up in Lebanon area. PM me any time to meet up. :)

Country of origin = Brazil.

No leather, and diapers wouldn't be that heavy. :)

Not cigars, and it's not exclusively for men, it's just something more often used by men, especially in the warmer months.

I've got a tool I'd let you use (or I'd do it for you) if we meet in person in Lebanon area. I don't loan tools out but shouldn't take more than 15 minutes if typical sights.

I have noticed slightly different colors or finish textures on my Anderson (and also PSA, SAA, etc.) lowers over the years, whether they were blems or normal. Seems like each batch can be a little different in color and sheen, which never really bothered me unless I tried to mate them with an upper that was noticeably different. So I try to pair them up to get perfect matches, or order them in matched sets when possible, which is another benefit of having so many to select from. :)

Yeah, they are indeed awesome! I liked it so much when I first saw it that a few of us pitched in and purchased a big lot of them direct from a military base in Colorado. What I like best is that you can use them like a gun rack by separating the halves and storing them side-by-side or separately, or you can join them together with the locking latches and they become one indestructible crate which can be stored or shipped nearly anywhere in the world. They even have pressure relief valves built-in, which is a good thing as the air pressure differential was so great after they arrived here from Colorado that we could not pry them open until we released the pressure valves. They are made by Pelican-Hardigg, the Cadillac of the gun case world, and the original military cost is a little over $1,200 each when new (empty). I think we paid close to $300 each after having them shipped in from Colorado, but my friend would likely settle for $250 or so, since he is focused on raising funds for another project right now. You can PM me if interested and I will put you in touch.

Holy cats. And I thought I was the only one crazy enough to buy more lowers when I already had more than a few ARs and parts kits too. Guess they are addicting for all of us. I even ended up getting a few of the US military storage cases, which hold up to 12 AR rifles and 24 magazines in a waterproof airtight container that folds open to a locking armory rack for field use. Nice for storage in a garage, spare room, workshop, or anywhere you need to keep the elements off the gear. In fact a friend of mine in Lebanon just told me he is going to sell off some of his ARs including a few of his military storage cases, so if any of you AR addicts are like me and need a few cases I can get you a good deal. They are also beneficial for hiding new acquisitions from the wife... :)

Ok, so considering we now have an extra day for more guesses before delivery occurs, I will reveal a few more hints. No alcohol. No food. Not liquid. Is consumable, but not perishable if properly stored. Not related to firearms, but many of us (especially men) could use and enjoy it. And no, it's not Viagra. That's all you get.

So I still don't know what Reading Rainbow was, having never seen it, but from watching the promo video it sounds like a normal kid's show which just references things from certain books, thus encouraging the kids to read those books. Sounds like a great idea, and must have worked if many of you recall watching it and liked it as kids. But I wonder about the following: Surely there are hundreds (if not thousands) of similar content providers online today, delivering tons of audio/video programs for kids and classrooms, including many which are tied to books. So why re-invent the wheel? What will be unique about this program? The promo video says it will be free, which sounds great, but they must have a plan to generate revenue somehow or they would never survive once the initial funding runs out. I suspect they will be making money from advertisements, book sales, and possibly subscription services for optional content. So in the end it won't be totally free for everyone, and thus it will have to compete with whatever else is out there. There is already a lot of totally free content available on the internet, including free eBooks that don't require any purchase or subscription whatever, in addition to many sites which have free learning games and tutorials, self tests, etc. So still wondering what they plan to do that will be so unique. Anything that gets kids to read more is a good thing, but I think the days of kids reading paper books is limited, as even the youngest kids are adopting tablets and cell phones before many of us were even old enough to use the rotary phone unsupervised. Remember those? :)

Update: Wile E Coyote continues to experience the usual trials... After visiting the storage facility several times, we had settled on a plan to use 3/4" OSB subflooring and a pallet jack to roll the pallets into the unit, as suggested by members of this board. I then called the trucking terminal Tuesday night to confirm arrival of our pallets in Nashville, and to schedule their delivery for Wednesday morning. The night shift confirmed arrival but said I had to call back at 5:00am to speak with the morning dispatcher to schedule delivery, so I ended up staying up all night. Spoke with dispatch at 5:00am and they offered to deliver it in a 28' lift gate truck instead of a tractor trailer, which was good news for us, but they said we had to wait and take delivery on Thursday morning instead, which I readily agreed to. I lined up two friends to meet me Thursday morning at the unit just in case. So this morning I got up nice and early, confirmed with the dispatch site that the load was out for delivery as scheduled, then went to Lowes to purchase the OSB panels. While waiting at the storage unit I found one of my helpers was going to be unavailable, so was happy I had at least one still coming. Then I set the OSB panels in the unit so they would be ready to go, at which time I realize the height of the rolling door seemed a bit lower than normal. Turns out the door opening height is just a bit under 7' tall, so I call the shipper and they confirm the pallet height to be 6'6" including the skid. So when you allow for the height of the lift gate and pallet jack it is now uncertain if the pallets will even fit through the door vertically. Then while my helper and I are surveying the scene to ponder our options, we start worrying about the width of the lift gate as well because the door is only 8' wide, so if the lift gate is any wider than 8' it won't be able to set the pallets inside the unit. And our backup plan of hiring a local skid loader service to move the pallets inside might not work either, as the skid loader would need to be under 7' tall while carrying the pallets which seemed doubtful. Then as we set to measuring everything inside this 10'x15' unit, we discover that there is really only 9'x14' of interior floor space when you subtract the width of the steel building framing, thus we determine that only 6 of the pallets will fit inside even if we could roll them in, which is still doubtful. But as my typical Acme luck would have it, the dimensions of the door and the unit turned out to be moot today because the truck driver called to say he was going to be late, as he was stuck offloading at another customer site. Now of course our 7 pallets should have nearly filled his 28' lift gate truck so I immediately ask what he is driving... and of course he is driving a 53' tractor trailer without a lift gate, and no equipment to get the pallets on the ground. So despite my calling the terminal at least 3 times to confirm the truck size and checking their website repeatedly to confirm status, they still sent it out on the wrong type of truck. Now the only option they could offer us was to return the pallets to the terminal this afternoon, reload them tonight, and deliver tomorrow morning on a 28' lift gate truck as originally agreed. The delay is irritating but at least it gave us some more time to plan for the unload process. After some typical Wile E Coyote brainstorming complete with several hand-drawn blueprints on the back of Shoney's napkins at lunch, we came up with a plan to use a single sheet of the 3/4" OSB subfloor and a bunch of 2x4 studs to build a 4" high 4x8 platform which will sit outside of the unit and be level with the interior cement pad. Thus the width or height of the loading gate on the truck won't matter, as he can set the lift gate down on the outside platform and we can roll the pallet jack right into the unit from the platform, keeping the pallets as low as possible. And if the pallets are still a little too high then we just remove a few of the individual items from the top of the load until it clears the door. And for the 7th pallet we just leave it sitting on the exterior platform, at which time we back up our pickup trucks and load our personal items from that pallet (we are getting more than half a pallet just for us) and we put the remaining loose items into the unit between the other pallets. So like any good Wile E Coyote cartoon, we have now been blown up at least a half dozen times and are now on plan P or Q at this point, but this latest plan does seem like it has a high likelihood of success. So I will get up at 5:00am tomorrow morning and call dispatch to confirm the truck size, and if they tell me they sent it back out on a full tractor trailer or a truck without a lift gate, then I will just shut the phone off and stay in bed. Sometimes you have to know when to quit... :)