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Nothing. You were not threatened with serious bodily harm or death, and you had no cause to believe that anyone else had either, so it sounds like you did the right thing. Theft of retail merchandise or cash is not worth escalating into a physical confrontation, struggle, or gun fight in which life may be lost, especially if it's not your own. Be hyper aware of your extended surroundings. When something doesn't seem right, immediately leave the area or prepare for the worst. Only draw your gun if you are at imminent risk of serious bodily harm or death, in which case you should be prepared to shoot as soon as the gun is on target. When the potential threat is gone, report any possible crimes or suspicious activities then go on your way.

[quote name="jh225" post="1179024" timestamp="1407907503"]I went through all of the topics and policies on WM.com and saw absolutely nothing. If you can find it, please post it up.[/quote]I did a site-specific search for their whole Walmart.com domain, and corporate.Walmart.com as well which contains all of their published policies, yet no policies found for firearms, weapons, concealed, etc. So I'm sure they do have a firearms / concealed carry policy but they are smart enough not to publish it online, and instead only refer to it in a summary way as needed in response to customer inquiries. So that email linked above is as good as you are going to get, unless an employee publishes their internal policy documents and related training materials.

Yes, make sure to have the original box or carton when you call so you can give them the lot #

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Open carry is defined as your weapon being plainly visible to others and not fully concealed. It doesn't matter if its only partially visible or only visible some of the time, whenever enough of it is visible that an ordinary person knows you have a gun then you are open carrying at that time. If you did not intend to open carry there really is no excuse for exposing the gun. You have to be willing to adjust your clothing, holster, gun, activities, etc. to prevent the gun from being exposed. If you did not intend to open carry then you should have done a better job at concealing it. There really is no excuse for an inadvertent disclosure as it is quite easy and inexpensive to adjust your clothing or carry in a different manner based on your activities. If I am unable to carry concealed for some reason, then I will go to off-body carry or leave the gun secured in my vehicle or another secure location nearby, rather than to open carry which I believe is foolish, unnecessary, and dangerous. But to each his own.

If you don't want any attention while carrying, keep it concealed at all times. If you opt to carry in a manner which is partially or completely visible, then be prepared to receive attention periodically, most of which will not be positive or desired, and some of which may be quite dangerous. Legal or not, open carry is a bad idea. It should be legal everywhere and always, but practiced nowhere and never. If you feel otherwise then don't complain when you are the recipient of said "attention".

Lit a candle and said special prayers for you at mass Sunday. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

If BUDS had opened the TN store as part of the same legal entity as their KY online business then they would both have to charge TN sales tax to all TN residents. I am glad they didn't do this, as I like purchasing from their website solely due to the low net prices, and the tax would have killed many or all of their deals for me.   But since the TN store was opened by a new and separate legal entity (their third in the legal shell game), I wouldn't expect the TN store to have much in common with either of their KY businesses. Even if the tax, liability, insurance, investment, banking, and other similar matters were all non-issues, it still wouldn't make sense that a chain famous for high volume with low online prices could open up a brick and mortar store with many additional costs resulting in substantial overhead yet keep all their items and prices the same. So knowing that they are a separate entity, I'm not really expecting them to be anything special, at least not much better or worse than the average local gun store, and certainly not worth a long drive. Maybe they will offer an occasional great deal once in a while, maybe the range will be nice for those who live close by, but they can't possibly offer the same low prices as the online business with all that extra overhead, at least not if they expect to make a profit and stay in business. Like any other local gun store, I would stop there occasionally just to browse if I lived in the area or passed it for other business, but I wouldn't make a special trip and I would rarely buy anything there because most of it is available cheaper online.   But by using the same or very similar business names, advertising via the same methods, communicating via the same emails and phone reps, sharing inventory supplies and other resources, etc. BUDS is not only going to confuse and irritate their customers, they are also going to run dangerously close to creating significant legal trouble on sales tax, wage tax, warranty and service issues, refunds, and other practical or legal concerns for the legal entity owners, employees, and customers alike. As I don't plan to ever visit the TN store, I just hope that whatever happens to them doesn't negatively impact the online business model which so many TN residents have enjoyed and patronized for so long, which is no doubt why they were able to consider and implement the expansion in the first place.

Pretty good write up, and a structured approach to testing, although not really as scientific as it could be, and none of the tests used or simulated actual firearms use. The lube test for example didn't take into account the friction before, during, or after drying (with each product recommending different applications), and it didn't test how the lube would be effected by retention of crud from firing inside a firearm action. Vaseline or Olive Oil make great lubes and would show very little friction but they obviously would be a terrible lube for a gun. Still good info though. You might like to read this post for a detailed corrosion test report. [URL]http://www.6mmbr.com/corrosiontest.html[/URL]

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Love the new and final design. I'll be sending my payment soon.

Video was really cool, and so were all his other videos on YouTube. Looks like he does it for a living, not just for change, as he has multiple albums, videos, and many songs, plus he's playing various venues. Many of his songs tend to sound similar, though, so he needs to diversify a bit if he's going to grow. Still amazing that one person can play so many instruments, and then all at once. I think we need some videos of steelharp on here to provide a TGO concert. :D

If he ads the thin circle to #4 then I'd switch my vote to #4.

I suggest we number the samples accordingly, to avoid confusion in the replies:   #1 - TGO w/Bullet Holes (black) #2 - TGO w/State #3 - TGO w/Bullet Holes (red) #4 - Bullet Holes Only   I personally vote for #1 as my first choice, and #2 as my second choice.   I might have liked #3 but it is so faint that the red color does not pop, and instead it looks washed out or faded.   And #4 is ok but too generic, could be anything really, especially for those not from TN or familiar with guns.   Great work Willis68 & Protech! I will be paying for mine as soon as the design is confirmed.

Most DA/SA guns have a fairly long and heavy first shot followed by a short and lighter second shot. In theory this seems to be a really bad idea for speed and accuracy, and it can certainly be a factor for professional competition shooting, but in actual self-defense scenarios most folks don't draw or shoot fast or well enough, or shoot at targets far enough away for the extra few milliseconds of first-shot trigger pull and the extra few millimeters of muzzle movement caused by the heavier trigger of the first-shot to make a difference.   On the other hand, many DA-only guns have unnecessarily long and heavy pulls for every shot, which is bad as it makes the gun more difficult or even impossible for some shooters to use well or at all, especially those with small or weak hands. So if getting a DA-only gun I highly recommend one with a reasonably short and light trigger, such as the excellent Sig Sauer P250 or similar guns, which is why so many of the striker-fired guns are popular. I personally try to avoid striker-fired guns if I have an equivalent alternative, because they do not have re-strike capability and thus you have to do something such as a tap-rack-bang drill to get it back in action, often losing a potentially good round and many seconds in the process.   But the biggest practical difference by far is reliability and ease of use, which is much more of a factor when choosing between semi-auto and revolver. Revolvers are much simpler with fewer controls or steps, and thus more reliable and a better choice for shooters with less training and practice. The extra capacity and fast reload nature of semi-autos is attractive but this should not come at the price of reduced reliability or more complex operating that will make it more difficult for the novice shooter to use and clear if a jam occurs.   My LCP is a striker-fired gun but I have resigned to carry it as my primary because it is the only gun that is small and light enough to carry all the time, even in hot weather, and with or without a covering garment or holster. Also, I have shot thousands of rounds through the LCP so I know that it is fairly reliable and performs well, so I don't mind the risk of a rare misfire. But if a revolver or semi-auto with re-strike capability came out that was just as small and light and simple as the LCP then I would switch to it in a heartbeat.

Ruger LCP as primary, because it's small and light enough to conceal easily and carry comfortably in any outfit and any weather, with or without a holster. Thus I always have it with me, and it's a decent stopper with the right loads. Same trigger pull for every shot, and no safeties or manual controls to slow you down or get in the way, or complicate the action. Kahr CW9 as primary when I am dressed properly to conceal it and support the extra weight (usually a belly or IWB belt holster). Same benefits as above but slightly better sights, better trigger, more power, and easier to operate. Taurus total titanium 605 7-shot revolver snub nose 357 as primary or backup when I can carry off body in luggage, bug out bag, man purse, backpack, etc. Super reliable, simple, more power, pleasant to shoot with porting and ribber grips. Good for my companions to use, especially those who have less training and aren't well practiced with semi autos. Sig Sauer p250 or p229 as subs for the Taurus when I know all potential companion shooters are qualified for semi auto use, or on the rare occasion when I can carry with thick duty-quality belt and OWB or IWB holsters. Also my preferred choice for sidearm home defense (as backup to my shotgun and carbine rifle).

[quote name="K191145" post="1176473" timestamp="1407382412"]You didn't say if that was a hollow point +P egg, they will definitely do a lot of damage.[/quote]Good point! If we assume it was a double yolk and was spiraling for the best BC, we could add another 100-200 grains and maybe an extra 50-100 fps.

Wow, an egg hit your vehicle at 80 mph and it didn't do any damage at all, and only left a few minor shell flakes such that you didn't know what it was until the cop told you? I would have expected the egg to do a ton of damage at that speed, especially since it hit your mirror. Muzzle energy of egg:   1 Jumbo Egg (70 grams = 1081 grains) at 80 mph (117 fps) = 33 foot lbs. of energy. So that is enough energy to move a 33 lb. weight a distance of 1 foot.

Wow. I was a little surprised to see his name come up in jest here, as I was totally unaware of all the more recent developments and subsequent criticisms that must have taken place with him or his school (and on various forums) over the last 10-15 years.   I went to his CCW class at APPS on Murfreesboro Rd to get my TN carry permit when I first moved to TN back in 1997. That was my first interaction with him, and overall I was satisfied with the outcome. I liked that he didn't bullsh_t or mince words, that he talked loudly, that he projected an overall tone of confidence, that he seemed to have practical experience with the legal issues as a former LEO and frequent provider of testimony for court cases, and he was very active in teaching CCW / security classes.   He did seem to have a few quirks including being very opinionated with a "my way or the highway, I am right and everyone else is wrong" approach, and he did require everyone to dry-fire their guns while pointed at him several times during the class. I didn't really like the dry-fire drill but not because we were pointing our guns at him, but because our class was seated in rows with some students behind each other, and I didn't personally get the chance to inspect every gun in the room before the drill started so I was put on the spot to rely solely on his inspection, which to his credit he was meticulous about inspecting all guns before class began. So the dry-fire drill made me a little uncomfortable but not to the point that I objected or left the class. He explained his reasons for doing it upfront, and that it was controversial but he didn't care because he felt that it was important for students to not be afraid to point the gun and pull the trigger on another human should the need arise, which did sort of make sense although I can see many other safer methods for achieving the same outcome (photo targets, projectors, live video, dummy guns, etc). I later referred a few friends to APPS for CCW classes and sat in on a few of those as an observer, and my impression was generally unchanged. I figured he was basically an experienced, competent instructor with a few odd quirks, just like any of us.   It was only during the past few months that I heard from other LEO (active and retired) that he was involved in at least one and possibly two negligent discharges (without injury) while working MNPD, and that he had a less-than-positive reputation with most LEO. Now I just read on a few forums (after seeing this thread) that he shot his own finger in an APPS Security class in 2011. There does seem to be a lot of negative press about him and his school, and his teaching methods, so perhaps his professionalism had slipped through complacency or carelessness over the years, although I would have expected the first negligent discharge or accident to be the last, as the proper response is to then become hyper-safe much more so than even the most anal RSOs. Regardless of his history or the facts of the past situations, I hope that he teaches in a safe manner moving forward. Would hate to hear of him or someone else being hurt down the road, especially if it could have been prevented.

Pranks can definitely turn serious in an instant, going from a harmless egg or snowball toss to a car crash or an ER visit in no time. I wouldn't endorse or tolerate dangerous pranks, but when it comes to tossing eggs (or rocks or snowballs etc.) I think most of us did that as kids too, and in the vast majority of cases it never comes to any serious harm except a frustrating cleanup job. Now if you were both traveling 35 mph in opposite directions and they whipped that egg at you with all their might, and it hit your car at the equivalent of 70-80 mph, then I would very much consider that to be beyond the realm of safety as an impact like that would at the least completely trash your car body and could very well have killed you. But since you said the only damage was a few eggshell pieces and goo stuck to the car, I assumed that slow speeds and a relatively light toss were involved, thus I would have classified this as a pretty harmless prank overall. When we were young we generally threw rotten crab apples, tomatoes, or snowballs at cars, and only from a stationary hiding point that was pretty far away from the road, so the actual speed of the projectile was greatly diminished if/when it even hit the car. We saved eggs for cracking on parked cars once a year on Devil's Night (before Halloween), but I stopped doing that when a friend told me that dried egg can sometimes remove the paint from cars, as I never intended to do any actual damage or cost anybody money. So I am not making light of your experience, just encouraging everyone that would be in favor or shooting or lynching the kids to stop and remember that we were all young once, and nearly all of us were on the other side of this story at least a few times.

My truck cost a small fortune, so I'd be pissed if they did any damage to it, and I would definitely want to catch them and make them pay for the damage or work it off. But if no damage was done and they were pranking in a reasonably safe way, I would be inclined to let them off with a smirk, as I remember when I did similar stupid things as a kid.

I have several s107g units with spare parts and battery upgrades. Pretty fun but they are quite sensitive to any breeze, even just indoor hvac patterns. So I never fly them outside, and it gets a little boring unless you have a really large room to fly in.

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Buford, former MNPD?

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