Hozzie

For anyone looking for a great deal on Sightron scopes, SWFA has clearance prices on some Sightron's, including the 24x44 SII Big Sky for $259 after rebate. That is a smoking deal. I got mine ordered so now I can share :-) http://swfa.com/Sightron-Closeouts-C4847.aspx

But their $10 will get you in both days. Goodman charges each day, plus you have to pay to park both days. Much better deal to go to the RK shows IMO.

Leupold for me, no question if I have a choice. I have a Nikon Monarch in 5-20, VX-3's in 6.5-20, and 4.5-14, and vx-II's in 4-12 and 3-9. The VX-3's are better than the VX-II's, but for the money, the VX-II isn't bad. The Nikon is great for the money I paid for it as well, but I like the design of the Leupolds better as well. For your muzzleloader check out the Leupold UltimateSlam with the Sabot Ballistic Reticle. It is made for Muzzleloaders and Shotguns and its easy to use the dot's in the scope based on if you use 100g or 150g loads. I just got one in Camo on sale for $209.

I just wish I could believe that there aren't as many dumb one's on the Republican side, but I don't believe that. Yes, they will know Obama is black, but I suspect they wouldn't give much better answers on a lot of the other questions. I don't think we want to get in a pissing contest of who has the dumber bottom voter pool. I could easily find enough to make a 15 minute video to stereotype our side too. It is funny (and sad) to listen to though.

I saw it, but it doesn't sound like much is known yet. I hope they find the scumbags.

Not sure what you mean by this. Anyone can send a firearm through USPS. The typical rules of you must ship to an FFL is true for out of state, but anyone can ship a firearm. I may have misunderstood what you meant. Handguns must go UPS or FedEx, but regular long guns can go USPS.

Mike, I have used one of their classic cast presses, but I still prefer my Hornady or Lyman. I looked at a lot of different presses when I first got into reloading and was able to try the RCBS, Lee, and Hornady. My very first press was the Lyman Crusher II kit and it is still my main go to single stage press. I just liked the feel of it. In the end, they will all work, it is just personal preference. I will admit, sometimes it is the little things that turn me off, meaning it could even be the quality of the finish on something. I am not a Lee basher by any means, I just don't typically prefer their equipment. Jamie

I think something that many of us who have reloaded for a long time overlook when giving someone opinions on presses is really to identify that each type of press has its own strength's and someone new should determine what is most important to them. In the end, I think many of us end up with two or more presses, but to start, it's good to know what each of them are best intended for. A single stage is good for better control, stronger support, and overall better precision. In my opinion, every beginner should start on a single stage for any type of reloading until they truly understand the process. A Turret Press is good for increasing speed by not having to move brass as many times and having dies setup and ready to go, but it doesn't offer the same stability of a single stage press. This of course isn't needed by everyone and in many cases, they are more than capable of making precision loads, but if you are looking for the best precision from round to round, you can't beat a single stage. A turret press offers a nice mix of increased speed, but it still gives good control over each step. A progressive is great for high volume, but it typically isn't as precise as a single stage. That's not to say it can't make good rounds, but again, more moving parts equals less precision. It also takes more concentration to make sure you are confident each stage has what it needs to do it's job. When I load for bench work, I use a single stage, when I load for prairie dogs, I use a progressive. For Shotgun, you need a completely separate press. I have one of those two, but quite honestly, I think it is as cheap to buy shotgun shells on sale anymore as it is to reload. I agree with Mike, if you want the best single stage, get the Forster COAX. Otherwise, I think the cheapest of the Hornady LNL, Lyman Crusher II, or RCBS Rockchucker would be my choice to start.

I am on the side that isn't a big fan of the Lee equipment (except their dies are ok). I prefer a balance beam scale as I am more confident that once it is set, it will be correct and consistent. I don't have the same confidence it an electronic scale (although I do have one, I just don't use it very often). I don't like seeing numbers go up or down, even if it is just a .10th caused by airlflow. I think for a beginner, I would always recommend a balance beam and then they can choose to move up to an electronic scale when they are confident in their skills. You can buy used of course, but I think that is really hard sometimes for someone who is just getting into it to really know what is good and what isn't. I research everything to death and recommend you do the same. You will also learn some things you probably didn't think of along the way. I really think one of the single stage kits is a good way to start. Yes, you can buy things a little cheaper used, but it's one stop shopping for the base components. Yes, there will be other items you need, but the kits are a good start. I have both the Lyman Crusher II and the Hornady LNL single state presses and they are both good presses. As many others will say, they like the Lee as well. If it was me, I would set a budget and by the best I could afford (that doesn't mean throw money away, but look for obvious quality). I would start by deciding what actual press I wanted. There are plenty of reviews of all of them out there. Then fill in the other items based on your budget. If you only have $200 to spend, I am going to buy very different items that if I have $600 to spend. That's not to say that some things may be the same, but I think there are quality differences among items. I think if I could ask you one thing, it would be, how much reloading do you plan to do? I do it because I enjoy it and I want the extra control for precision target shooting. But I really believe that unless you are going to reload thousands of rounds, it takes a long time to recoup the money spent getting setup. Starting with a cheap setup isn't a bad thing. If you realize later on you aren't reloading as much as you thought you would, you aren't out much. Of course, if you have it a lifetime, the cost becomes less of an issue and you will definitely recoup it over time.

Taking my words a little too literal. Maybe fortunate is a better word. It doesn't imply luck but doesn't preclude hard work.. Anyway, I am for a flat tax, not a so called "fair" tax. No loopholes, credits, deductions, etc. It can be tiered at 3 or 4 levels based on income, but everyone should pay something.

I don't want to get into a personal debate as that wasn't the intention. I understand where you are coming from, I just have a different opinion.

Are you implying that those in nursing homes shouldn't have to pay anything either? I don't want to infer too much on this, but I don't see the relationship to paying taxes and being in a nursing home. There are people of all wealth ranges in nursing homes. I may have totally misunderstood the intention of that statement as well.

I am all for debate. I don't have to agree with everyone or anyone for that matter. I state my beliefs and if you convince me I am wrong, then I am more than willing to consider anyone's point of view. I tend to put things in context based on my personal experiences, but the intention is not to make it appear as if I am only wanting to see posts from people that agree with me. If we all agreed on everything it would be boring.

I didn't intend this to turn into a rich vs poor argument. In the end, we desperately need tax reform. What that reform looks like is for another thread.

Yes. Life is not a free ride although too many try that route and get away with it. As long as you are using services (which everyone does) then you should pay something up until the time you die. It's not the feel good answer, but it's the fiscally responsible answer. Oh yeah, and if you have been lucky enough to do well in life, the government thinks you should have to give 50% of your hard earned money to them, even if that means you have to sell your families property to pay it. So when should someone who has paid in their whole life and paid more than something "paid enough". Surely just because you have money doesn't mean that we should treat all old people differently. They all have paid "something", so what number is "enough" just to be fair. If you have reached that number, then yes, I will agree that no one who has paid in up to that number should have to pay more. My family doesn't have that problem to worry about, but I know those that do.

Take it as what you want, I wasn't trying to pat myself on the back. All I am saying is I believe everyone, including the elderly and poor should pay something.

Sorry. but because I make decent money and can "afford it" (as those that don't pay anything typically say) doesn't mean almost half of the wage earners should pay zero. I am not saying they have to pay 30%, but yes, they should pay something. Life's not fair. You reap what you sow. I may have had it easier than most, but I also work my butt off and I am tired of being the bad guy when I pay what I consider to be more than my fair share. They can pay "A" share. Zero is not contributing, it is taking. We should all contribute, even if we only make $100.

I am not a huge Romney fan even though I will vote for him. This made me like him a little better. I am sure he wishes it didn't get out, but it's the truth.

It should be the length of just the rod. I would go at least 36" as the Tiptons have a big handle and it hits the buttstock and for me it just kind of gets in the way. With that said, I would highly recommend a stainless steel ProShot rod. The Tiptons are ok, but for the same (or similar) money, I prefer the ProShot rods. http://www.proshotpr...-Rods_c_80.html

I actually know and believe that Jesus exists. He works for the local landscape company trimming bushes.... I couldn't tell you about 3000 years ago, never got into that one. That's a joke (well mostly) for anyone wanting to take that too serious.

I could care less about any religion and that isn't why I am against it. For me, it is purely about spending billions of dollars on something that we don't have the money for. Almost everyone on this board is fiscally conservative and we complain all of the time about wasting money for this or that. The fact is, we each have our own priorities and we have our own reasons for believing so. We will never convince each other that what we believe is right or wrong based on our own beliefs. In the end, I am sick and tired of paying (a lot) of taxes for things that I don't consider the priority. For me, we should be paying down our debt and if that means Isreal and everyone else has to make thier own way, so be it. I am not a humanitarian. There have always been bad things in this world and there always will be. When we figure out a way to pay our own bills, then we can worry about helping everyone else. My two cents.

I use the Saddle Shop in Triune a lot and have never had any issues.

I 100% agree. I guess my point is more of why do we continue to offer. The Republicans would have you think we must continue to give them these items or somehow we are the bad guys. I am definitely not saying we should be against them either, but let them deal with it, we have enough to deal with here.

I guess I just don't get it. As far as I am concerned, it's time for Isreal to take care of themselves and not expect us to "cheer" for them. I am tired of taking care of everyone. That doesn't mean that I am anti-semetic nor does it mean that I am a supporter of their adversaries. It just means I am sick of all of it. I am sick of all religions thinking they are better than the others or this or that. They have fought for 3000 years and will continue for another 3000. Let them figure it out. This isn't the stone ages anymore. We have enough to worry about here in our own Country, State's, Towns, and neighborhoods. Let's focus on that.

In general, I always try to give the local guy a chance. I understand it is hard for them to compete sometimes, but in the end, the money in my pocket is worth more than the possible convenience of needing them to do something for me. I have bought a lot of guns online and can't say I have ever had one issue. I am also at the point where I am collecting higher end guns, so the extra tax is usually in the $80 $150 range, which is a big addition to a usually higher price to start. I am always thinking about resale in a worst case scenario, and that extra tax makes it hard not to lose a lot of money. I actually try to buy used, like new first, but that is a different discussion. I think for someone that really needs someone to assist them down the road, then buying from a local vendor is great for the extra services they can provide. For those of us that really know what we want and aren't really needing/wanting that extra service, it makes sense to buy online if it is that much cheaper. I think there is a market for both, but local stores shouldn't get offended at the idea that someone wants the absolute best value for them. Defining what makes up that value is different for everyone.