DAdams

Yes... I cannot wait for the "project" to be finished. I shall hold my tongue. I find respite in 72 occassionally these days.

I think my Mav 88 may have have found a new home. Truck pistol, can you say BERSA?

I must get myself an AR EBR some day. DPMS in .308 would be my choice. I hear they cycle faster than my Winchester 1894 30/30.

again for the warm welcomes folks. I love Tennessee BTW.

A compact .45 in that price range will be a challenge. The most compact of the genre is the Kahr PM45, but way above the $$ your are considering. S&W M&P 45c isn't a bad size, but again twice the $$ you are looking at. You may consider the Springfield XD. As suggested go to the range and rent a few. As indicated also, .45 vs 9mm is orders of magnitude more expensive...hence if you are going to shoot a great deal you may wish to consider a 9mm. You can get a S&W MP9c (compact) 13 round capacity or .45 from Buds' for about $500 and some change plus transfer fee. Nice rig. S&W M&P9C 9mm 3.5 Black 12R for Sale at Buds Gun Shop $531.00 Good luck on your search. In your price range I would scour the gun shops for a good used pistol.

It is refreshing to begin to see some roundage reappear. Cabelas at Turkey Creek was awash in .223. Even had some obscure stuff they didn't carry prior to the "shortage". Black Hills, Hornady VMax. They had no .380. All those Ruger LCP out there just sopped up all the .380. I suspect the smaller shops may have some...ammo to go didn't have any. Ammo to go has some .38 spl plus P and +P+. I got two boxes of 50 each of this. Not as inexpensive as WWB or Greenbox, but it is good stuff. Now if I could just find small rifle primers.

Here are the specs on the PD SKU: 163061 Model: 340PD Caliber: .357MAG/.38+P Capacity: 5 Rounds Barrel Length: 1 7/8" Front Sight: Red Ramp Front Rear Sight: Fixed Grip: Rubber Grips Frame: Small - Centennial Style Finish: Blue / Black Overall Length: 6 3/8" Material: Scandium Alloy/Titanium/Stainless Steel Weight Empty: 12 oz. M&P 340 SKU: 163072 Model: M&P340 Caliber: .357MAG/.38+P Capacity: 5 Rounds Barrel Length: 1.87" Front Sight: XS Sights® 24/7 Tritium Night Rear Sight: Integral U-Notch Grip: Synthetic Overall Length: 6.31" Weight Empty: 13.3 oz. Material: Scandium Alloy Frame/Stainless Steel Cylinder Finish: Matte Black Frame Size: Small - Centennial Style Action: Double Action Only 1.3 ounces heavier in the M&P, but the cylinder is stainless. Main difference XS Tritium night site in the M&P vs Blade or light pipe for sights in the PD. PD is a couple hundred $$ more. S7W came out with the X42 then 340/350PD then M&P 340/360 to really get it right. the PD is almost too light and enhances felt recoil. Put a Crimson Trace grip on a 340 and you have (IMO) the ultimate carry snub. .357/38spl Plus P/38 spl. No Restrictions. Extreme versatility. http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&productId=53911&tabselected=tech&isFirearm=Y&parent_category_rn= Best all around snubby, you asked. Wait a little longer and save up a couple hundred extra. Here is the ultimate Part II of the X42 Thread on The High Road. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=314422 Here is a thread I started a couple of years ago on the 340 with the input of many users. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=282173 M&P 340 and 642-2 both with Crimson Trace 405 grips. If weight is not a concern I would consider a Colt Detective Special or Colt Cobra. Both can be had in the $500 range 6 rounds vs 5 and a piece of Americana History. No +P in those though. I picked this M-60 pre-lock standard pressure only up at a gunshop that was the end of an estate sale. $275!! With set of Starrett Grips in addition to the stock grips. A hammer bob job and some appropriate grips would make this a good pocket carry albeit too heavy for my likes, but great IWB or OWB.

TGO Dave says: It certainly does. I would still like to find a local mentor. It has been quite a learning process getting up...and I'm not even running yet, but I'm not in a big hurry. I did it more for the impending social modification to come. Wanted a few thousand rounds in the rough for the feeding of the items I have.

I have 3 S&W snubs: 642 with Crimson Trace 405 grips. It was my first and I found that at about 16 ounces it was too heavy for pocket carry, others will disagree. I liked the J Frame Centennial concept and two years ago bought a M&P 340 with Crimson Trace 405s. It is no doubt my most pocket carried snub and although it is rated for .357 it is charged with Speer Gold Dot for Short Barrel (23921). I like the Tritium XS sites and the light weight. 3rdly a S&W M-60 just had to have a stainless, hammered, pre-lock to round out the family. I like the Mika Roundcut holster for pocket carry but started with a DeSantis Nemesis. I use it for my Kahr PM9 now. OWB, a Speed Classic from Blackhawk works well and is readily available and priced nicely.

and Loudon County. I'm Dennis and a halfback. Full time in TN for a year now and part time for the prior three years. 20 years in FL the rest in Idaho and MI (Kalamazoo, Portage, East Lansing, Traverse City). Grew up in a hunting family in MI and exposed to long guns at an early age. Continued the tradition while living in Idaho, hunting upland game and waterfowl. A number of handguns, rifles and shotguns. Have a FL CCW permit in force while waiting on the TN HP. Shoot at CCA/did TN Course at CCA. Three PD HG Most Carried: S&W M&P 340, Seecamp .380 or Kahr PM9. EDC: Seecamp .380, Fenix/Four Sevens LED, Gerber folder. Just took up loading (now that I have a basement and a winter) and it has taken a year to get all the parts together to support the Hornady LnL Progressive. Still on the lookout for small rifle primers. Forum Member: THR TFL Seecamp S&W FL Sportsman BERSA Talk