Worriedman

That is because the average LE Officer is smarter than the average legislator.

What if the Citizen hands over his weapon IN a holster that precludes viewing the serial number without requiring the Officer to remove it? The number is not in plain view at that point.

Back up now.  Maybe it was just a Jackson thing, I with checked with numerous folks and Wednesday - Friday none of us here could access any video.

 Yeah, if sticking your tongue in Obama's ear is appealing...

Can't figure out how to get the whole thing on, but here is the gist, Kesley has killed both HB 42 and SB 250.

From the article speaking of the weapons used in gang related shootings:     How about we get the judiciary to drop the hammer on some of the crooks who are breaking and entering, maybe slow down the availability of stolen weapons?

Walker is a member of the Bells PD, currently on administrative leave, with pay.   Should specify that is Johnathan M. Walker that is the Bells PD Officer.

Is it just me, or is anyone else having trouble accessing the video archives from the TN House and Senate committee meetings? :tinfoil:

Some of the comments are really interesting.

I wonder how many folks remember the traitors who voted for Naifeh in 2005?  Included in that number were Joe McCord, (current Chief Clerk of the House for Harwell) Doug Overbey (current sitting Senator) and Rep. Steve McDaniel (only surviving member of the Naifeh 7, who later joined the Naifeh 8, Republicans who voted in favor of a TN Income Tax) currently Harwell's handpicked Deputy Speaker.

Yeah, none of them took place under Naifeh's reign.  Kent Williams as Speaker was far better for firearms issues than Beth Harwell will ever be. However, my personal take is the scant Republican inhabitants in the House in 2009 needed us in the 2010 elections, and so voted in favor of firearms issues (along with Democrats too, don't forget). The Senator fails to mention that the Senate sponsor of the two biggest issues (guns in "bars" twice actually) was a Democrat.   Now that they rule the world, they do not need our pitiful little band...

Those unalienable Rights are mine, no human or group of humans has the power to give them to or take them from me.  A far more intelligent man than me said they came from Nature or Nature's God, you pick'em. (I have my own opinion) They CAN take my life, but not my Rights.

I have had my dealings with Stacey, I would not consider him overly amenable to the 2nd Amendment, but my last statement was over the top, Sen. Beavers is pro 2nd Amendment, the rest have failed to raise any hope that they are other than politicians.   And no, this is not Campfield's bill, a new one named Haile.  There may be some other pro 2nd Amendment State Senators, I just don't know them, and I know most, other than freshmen.

I don't know any pro-2nd Amendment State Senators except Mike Bell, please introduce me to the one you know.   Why would any one of them suppose that the electorate (at least ones smart enough to make a passing grade on that simpleton test required to get your permit) is so stupid as to believe anything any of them would have to say at this point?

I am computer challenged, never made any assertions otherwise, mess ticks me off when you think you have it figured out and it goes all screwy. :rant:   You have to admit though, I do not give up easy...

Had a long conversation with a sitting Senator last evening on another venue, and he professed that we should be so very happy with the efforts by our legislature on our behalf, saying that he and his cohorts had passed 21 "Pro Gun" bills in the last 4 years. I asked him to send me his list, as I have no remembrance of such Herculean efforts on the part of Tennessee, or maybe I had fallen down and bumped my head. The 107th General assembly produced these public chapters by his own accounting: Seems to be one clarification of an existing situation regarding receiving shipments of a block powder weapon to or from a personal residence, but did not advance any rights as I can tell. Other than that, deals with the production of "protected class" instances regarding judges and Law Enforcement. Maybe it is just me being ungrateful to the first majority Republican House, Senate and holder of the Governor's mansion. The two years before, when there was basically and even number of Democrats and Republicans in the House, a Republican majority in the Senate and a Democrat in the Governor's seat there were 17 supposed "Pro Gun" bills passed: Appears to be some more "Protected Class" stuff in that period as well.

For those of you in the Clarksville area, your Senator, Mark Green is likely the swing vote in this issue.  Please contact him to make sure he knows that your desire is that the issue go to the floor for a vote, Ramsey and Kelsey are choking the life out of the bill as I type.

An interesting exchange on a different venue from a sitting Senator, explains that the fiscal note put the legislation "behind" the budget, effectively killing any chance is has in its current for for passage.   I suspect that the Establishment Republicans are desirous of strangling this baby in its bed, might interfere with their place in line for some Federal Grant...

Ron is simply shilling for his campaign donors, Big Business wants to be able to keep a record of all permit holders so they can manage their property, no nefarious intent there. That the results can be horrific are, well, simply collateral damage.  Such is the fate of those not included within the ruling elite.

Seems enough dollars can purchase an exception to nearly everything.  The exemption was their back-up position, as killing it outright was their first option.

Oklahoma and Florida are "at will" employment States as well, and the "Parking Lot' bill survived judicial review all the way to the Federal Appellate court level in both. In fact these are the only two States that have challenged the implementation of such legislation, and in both cases, (Florida's major claimant was Disney, that is no light-weight foe) the Right of the Citizen to keep their weapons in their personal vehicle was found to be of more import than the ability of an employer to forbid it.   Though I knew it already, I had forgotten that there are instances whereby "At Will" employment rules (outside those protected "classes" of race, sex, religious,  family medical etc.) preclude the ability to fire, e.g. asking an employee to commit an illegal act and their refusal, is NOT a permissible reason to terminate, there are others, but my head hurts at the moment...

  Since Heidi Keesling "moved on" as our lobbyist, and Daren LaSorte was instituted as interim last year, I have not seen a posted replacement.  I know that Daren was here on a temporary basis.  Have not seen or heard from the NRA at Nashville or via e-mail this year.

  That is true, lots of things that are unacceptable to me would not violate a Constitutional Right.  Each to his own.

You are correct, the operative issue is employment at will, and since you seem to have the handle on the correct technical jargon, which would indicate knowledge, how does Texas, which is too an "at will" State remedy their interest in having a "Parking Lot" bill which precludes termination for keeping a handgun in a personal vehicle.   One attorney out there I asked said they applied "adjoining property' principals, recognizing that the adjoining property was vertical instead of horizontal.  The do not allow keeping your property in their property, (company vehicle) but do allow it in your private vehicle on their property.

  Let's pretend that the firm you work for decides that they have had enough of Democrats or Republicans, and they put a spotter out in the parking lot to espy the bumper stickers on cars, and fire anyone who is politically active.  Or, they decide they don't like folks with children, so they mark any vehicle that has a "My Kid" sticker for termination.  Or, they go through the insurance records, and let anyone who is married go, because that may lead to divided loyalties.   You are good with all that, remind me never to depend on you for anything.