Worriedman

Ogles did not cave to the Covtards whilst Mayor.

We have been involved in a suit with the state over TCA 39-17-1307 for two years now, it moves at an agonizing pace. Won the first round, lost the second so we are refiling, but not giving up. I have come to the conclusion that no matter who we elect, the Leadership and the 3 letter agencies (though Chevron Deference getting overturned may help with that, it will take suits to curb them though) are not about to give up their power to regulate arms in Tennessee without a fight. We passes the Constitutional Amendment to put the question on the ballot in 2026 in the Senate, then the House killed it. That falls directly at the feet of the Speaker of the House Cameron Sexton. I just passed the 70 year old mark last Saturday, but if God spares me long enough I am going to win the effort to take that power away from these grasping culls who usurped the unalienable right to arms from us in 1870. We all know it is not a power that was delegated to them, they know we know, but not enough people give a lusty crap to force the issue. Our Supreme Court in 1871 said it was unconstitutional, Heller resaid it in 2008: “In Andrews v. State, the Tennessee Supreme Court likewise held that a statute that forbade openly carrying a pistol “publicly or privately, without regard to time or place, or circumstances,” 50 Tenn., at 187 (1871), violated the state constitutional provision (which the court equated with the Second Amendment). That was so even though the statute did not restrict the carrying of long guns.” - District of Columbia et al. v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 629 (2008) Even our new Attorney General Johnathan Skrmetti recognizes that fact, and proved my point by signing the agreed order int he Beeler case: "The Challenged Scheme regulating the possession and carrying of handguns that restricts individuals aged 18 years old to 20 years old from carrying handguns or obtaining permits to carry handguns on the basis of age alone violates the Second and Fourteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution." (Emphasis mine) proves the contention I make. It also points to the correct interpretation of the recent Federal Supreme Court Bruen decision by that office. Yet our General Assembly has not codified that order by a Federal Court even though the DOS has posted it is the law. I for one refuse to sit on my hands and let the Establishment violate their oath and the law without at least calling them out, but one voice is not enough!

Either that or wait on the appeals to play out. Just remember how ATF treated the guy in Arkansas they considered to be breaking their "rules".

It is a matter of "Standing". I don't make the rules, I just have to live and die by them. If you want the coverage, join the suit initially. We seek out plaintiffs for our suits, hard to come by. Nobody wants to stand out in a crowd and be noticed I guess. The Courts require that to show harm, there must be individual plaintiffs, it takes money and time to write the declarations and brief the courts on them. We chose to join Ken Paxton(State of Texas), GOA, GOA Foundation and other state AGs, (Our State AG declined to join us and went with a different group who were unsuccessful as they did not list individual plaintiffs). Anyone can play, you just have to be motivated and willing to put yourself on the line. Similar to testifying in a committee hearing, have to take off work, petition the committee chair, send in your testimony, show up, take the abuse in the hall from the Moms Demand Action hordes and TBI, Sheriff's Association and Department of Safety taxpayer paid lobbyist, Tennessee Holler, NPR etc. The way it works, if you win in the first stage you get the TRO for the named plaintiffs, as the case progresses it knocks it out for the general population, but nothing moves forward if one person does not take the first step. Look at Dick Heller, he sued, took him years to prevail, he got a TRO at a lower court, it was set aside by the Applegate Court but he persevered, eventually we all got the fruit of his work.

As of this date the Rule is in force for everyone NOT a member of Gun Owners of America, Gun Owners Foundation, Virginia Citizens Defense League, and Tennessee Firearms Association, alongside the states of Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, and Utah.

We saw them utilize this position in the Bump stock ruling, it was NOT a 2nd Amendment thing, it was set aside because ATF exceeded their authority under the Administrative Procedures Act. (By the way you can count on the ATF and DOJ not appealing the brace rule out of the 5th Circuit either now). It will make legislatures have to step up and be specific. The People will have a chance to sue to get courts to recognize their rights instead of just dealing with unelected bureaucrats. It will also affect TBI, DOS and the Governors spokespersons coming into committees in Nashville to "philosophically oppose" restorative 2nd Amendment bills.

“In Andrews v. State, the Tennessee Supreme Court likewise held that a statute that forbade openly carrying a pistol “publicly or privately, without regard to time or place, or circumstances,” 50 Tenn., at 187 (1871), violated the state constitutional provision (which the court equated with the Second Amendment). That was so even though the statute did not restrict the carrying of long guns.” - District of Columbia et al. v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 629 (2008)

I tried to post the PDF, but never figured it out. Try this. https://tinyurl.com/5n6w97bb

This has less to do with the 2nd Amendment than it does with the APA, what they did was say that Chevron Deference is in the ICU! Thomas went right back to Bruen in his Opinion, - “As always, we start with the statutory text” Garland v. Cargill, No. 22-976, 11 (U.S. Jun. 14, 2024) Text, then historical tradition...

The "Mean Girls" Republican Supermajority gave Haile its "Legislator of the Year Award last night at the "Statesman's Dinner". Their polling must show it much closer than they are letting on...

All one has to do is look at Haile's voting record, he is part of the problem at the TN GA. He was given an opportunity to do an interview with me about 2A issues and refused the offer. Of course all the fan boys of the Supermajority Caucus are supporting him. That should tell you where they really stand.

I hope they do appeal it, going to the 5th Circuit Appeals will defiantly be in our favor.

TFA is not a party to that law suit. John Harris was hired in his capacity as an attorney by Judicial Watch. All of the Board Members (both of us) have real jobs that feed our families. Not one penny of TFA funds are being spent on that lawsuit or go to pay Directors or Board Members for anything, no gas, no hotel rooms, nothing. We do fund Amicus briefs and co-join other good 2A lawsuits through our Foundation, but no membership funds goes to that, it is privately funded.

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The GA never intended for any K-12 teacher to be able to carry a firearm in school. It was all pandering. Had they intended to let it be a thing, they would have put it under the auspices that they used in 2016 with Colleges, any permit holder employed simply lets the Administrator know they are going to be armed and that is that. The Legislature does not intend to fight the Governor on these issues and his wife and Brandon Gibson are virulently anti-gun. That is why it is still a crime in Tennessee to carry a loaded firearm. The Legislators do not intend to change that metric, it would cost them big with the Chamber of Commerce.

The NRA hired Aaron Luper as their lobbyist in Tennessee in the 90's, she was a dyed in the wool Democrat that donated money to Ralph Northam, They then hire a member of Bill Lee's staff, who had never been a member of the NRA and was not an advocate for the 2nd. This last young man (Kelby Seanor) lasted two years and was a fireball ala Darren LaSorte he got moved up and i have no idea what we will wind up with. Seanor stood his ground as much as Washington would let him and hopefully that portends better things for us all, but lobbying is buying access. We are better off suing for gains than trying to elect enough people to change the metric. It takes dollars to put up suits and win them. Lawyers are not cheap and doing the research and writing the briefs that will sway a judge or panel is expensive. If every person who buys a hunting license in Tennessee (728,759) would donate the cost of one box of ammo to our Foundation we would have over $10million to work with. Per case cost is $150K more or less, and. I am scrapping and begging to get enough in the bank for one per year. GOA helps by allowing us to get their staff attorneys to help write briefs, more than I can say for any of the other organizations. I donate to SAF (Life Member) and FPC (won the 18 year old's law suit in Beeler) and work gratus for TFA and have for the last 25 years. If the latest ATF run at your rights does not scare you, you have soft spots in your head...

The NRA lost its way under LaPierre, he then stacked the Board and it turned round robin into a theft ring. He was a grifter, but anyone who was good friends with Harry Reid... The problem in Tennessee is Leadership in the House and Senate and the worthless scared of his shadow governor. Until we get enough everyday people off their rears and in the game they operate with impunity, just like the NRA did. Sunfish is correct, Haile could be sent packing if enough folks in District 18 got involved. He is a shill for Big Pharma, carrying and passing the bill to let them have their way with puberty blockers, but then the rest of the Senate is on the take as well...Lamberth and crew are all in to save Haile's bacon, that should be a key indicator. If this outfit did not pass the Amendment to redo our 2nd Amendment analogue and take it back to the original construct of our 1796 Constitution this time (which Cameron Sexton is responsible for killing) they do not intend to do squat. We are each simple slaves to gin the taxes they need to give to their buds as repayment for donations to keep them in power over us all.

Issued today!

If you are a TFA Member, you are not subject to the new "rule", we, along with GOA joined Ken Paxton in their lawsuit (I am the named plaintiff in Tennessee) and we won the issue of gaining the temporary injunction. Members of either TFA or GOA or the Virginia 2A group are protected for now. I don't see how this stands. From the TRO issued by the Texas Court. TRO issued by Texas Court Here, three organizations (GOA, TFA, and VCDL) count Tormey — who has standing —as a member. ECF No.16-3 at 2. Moreover, TFA and VCDL have provided declarations evidencing that they have specific members “who will be impacted [by the Final Rule] because they have . . . bought and resold firearms, and wish to do so in the future without being improperly labeled as a ‘dealer’ in firearms.” ECF No. 16-5 at 3 (Declaration of C. Richard Archie); ECF No. 16-6 at 3–4 (Declaration of Philip Van Cleave). The same holds true for GOF. See ECF No. 16-4 at 4 (Declaration of Erich M. Pratt). And the GOA describes a former FFL whose retirement savings are now frozen in unsellable inventory. We are in a fight for our rights!

You can rest assured that no Board Member or Director of TFA draws one penny from our funds. They are used to support good candidates, oppose bad ones and for our litigation only. All of the trips I make to Nashville, all of the speeches I give across the state are on my own dime and own time. I do not get reimbursed for gas, meals or hotels.

You may get your wish if we don't get some help on the law suits.

We have forced a c 3 whose Mission Statement is simply to litigate for restorative issues related to the 2nd Amendment in TN. Just imagine if every hunter who bought a license (some 840K) would donate the cost of a box of ammo to that Foundation, it would give us over $8Million to hire attorneys and brief writers, we could tear them up here.

So what changed your mind?

We are going to have to win our efforts in court, we are not going to be able to vote our way out of this. The Governor and the General Assembly are not going to quit suckling at the teat of the Chamber of Commerce, who by the way hate you and anything that smells of Liberty and the Founding. TFA is party to the Texas Law suit that achieved a Temporary Retraining Order against the ATF and its "Final Rule" regarding who is "in the business". TFA members are protected from ATF enforcing its rule on them for the time being TRO out of Texas Federal Court against Final Rule