Worriedman

There is another bill coming similar to Griffey's which I understand has more reach and addresses the entirety of the issue, not just cost. It will follow on the heels of the Civil Immunity passed last year.

Summary: As introduced, renames enhanced and concealed handgun carry permits as enhanced and concealed firearm carry permits and authorizes a permit holder to carry any firearms, rather than handguns, that the permit holder legally owns or possesses; expands the circumstances in which a permit holder may carry a firearm. - Amends TCA Title 10; Title 33; Title 36; Title 38; Title 39; Title 40; Title 49; Title 50 and Title 70.

The second half of the 112th iteration of the Tennessee General Assembly has begun. Of note is the Redistricting plan recently released, showing a drastic concentration of population in Middle TN, and a reduction in the Rural West. Few bills relative to the Right to keep, bear and wear arms have been filed as of this date, but there are several of note that are being worked on. With a House filing deadline of the first week of February, things will have to move fast if substantive ground is to be gained. I do anticipate that there will be moves to change the age for permits to 18 from 21, and, have heard rumors that GOA is desiring to see a change to the criminal aspect of carrying past a posting. Griffey has filed "Kyle's Bill" relative to forcing the state to pay legal fees in a spurious prosecution of a self defense nature, I do not think it will get a Senate Sponsor, but we will see. I will be reaching out to the NRA Lobbyist to see if they are attempting to push any specific legislation. The Senate is our obstacle with respect to passage of good restorative legislation, however, I do have hope after a few initial conversations that some members who are not seeking re-election are somewhat more willing to stand on principal and less under pressure from the Establishment to not run "big 'ol bad gun bills" in an election year. The coming week will be pivotal, I have a couple of meetings on the hill this next week that will be of note with respect to the possibility of gain on these issues. I have begun a series of podcast that are interviews with House Members and am planning to do the same with members of the Senate. I have done a few so far with true supporters of the 2nd amendment, and am being asked by others now that they have heard the first series and see that is not a bushwhack, rather an opportunity to get their thoughts in front of the public, said officials able to hear and approve the edited versions prior to release. The offer has been made to all members, and I am getting a fair number of request, as it is election year after all... Stay tuned as the whirligig has just begun to spin for 2022!

Oh Shoot is correct, no change.

I find it curious that the "other" side uses Tennessee law that is still on the books since 1821 to argue for gun control. Keep in mind, the GA still holds the carrying of a loaded handgun to be a crime (TCA39-17-1307). From the Oral arguments: NEW YORK STATE RIFLE & PISTOL ) ASSOCIATION, INC., ET AL., ) Petitioners, ) v. ) No. 20-843 KEVIN P. BRUEN, IN HIS OFFICIAL ) CAPACITY AS SUPERINTENDENT OF ) NEW YORK STATE POLICE, ET AL., ) Respondents. ORAL ARGUMENT OF BRIAN H. FLETCHER, FOR THE UNITED STATES, AS AMICUS CURIAE, SUPPORTING THE RESPONDENTS ...I am focusing on laws that either prohibited or required a showing of good cause to carry a concealable weapon, like a pistol. Tennessee enacted one of those laws in 1821. Texas followed in 1871. New Mexico and Arkansas likewise enacted such laws in the years immediately after the ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment. And over the decades that followed, more than a dozen other states enacted other laws that were at least as restrictive as New York's. Like my friends from New York, I count about 20 laws in total that fit that description.

TCA 39-11-611 Self defense Statute (a) (3) “Curtilage” means the area surrounding a dwelling that is necessary, convenient and habitually used for family purposes and for those activities associated with the sanctity of a person's home; (b) (1) Notwithstanding § 39-17-1322, a person who is not engaged in conduct that would constitute a felony or Class A misdemeanor and is in a place where the person has a right to be has no duty to retreat before threatening or using force against another person when and to the degree the person reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force. Not to argue with the ADA from Metro Nashville, but he does not get it.

I need a 1000 large rifle magnum primers, not picky about brand. They will probably do this load for my life time, so if I stay consistent I am good. Can trade or will purchase. I have CCI small and large pistol, large pistol magnum, even have a 1000 Fed large Pistol Mag Match for trade, or small or large rifle in CCI.

Spoke with a couple of our reps, who actually did vote for this monster, but both said the Red-flag would be stripped in conference committee. The one who I trust the most said he had to vote Yea to get on the conference committee.

Wife bought me one for our first Christmas together 49 years ago. I have killed a box car load of squirrels with it, and, won a couple of silhouette matches in TX when I lived there. Guys laughed when I stepped up to the line, them with their high dollar stuff... Can not beat this rifle and Derf has a great price on it.

The above quoted section of our original Constitution says it all. Free men do not need permission from the government to bear arms, long guns or handguns. Article 1 Section 1 of our State Declaration of Rights, says thus: Section 1. That all power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their peace, safety, and happiness; for the advancement of those ends they have at all times, an unalienable and indefeasible right to alter, reform, or abolish the government in such manner as they may think proper. Section 2 says: That government being instituted for the common benefit, the doctrine of non-resistance against arbitrary power and oppression is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind. We the People are supposed to be in charge of this government, it is our money that funds it, and it is supposed to serve us. The legislature now has the power by law to regulate the wearing of arms, but only with a view to prevent crime, put in the 1870 Constitution to keep the freed slaves from having arms. Took from then till 1995 to allow us to legally carry a firearm, and that with a tax. The legislature thinks they are supposed to be in charge of who can carry what when and where, but that is not how it is set up, it is just how it has morphed to them being able to sell you your rights. H.L. Mencken said "The government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office. Their principal device to that end is to search out groups who pant and pine for something they can't get and to promise to give it to them. Nine times out of ten that promise is worth nothing. The tenth time is made good by looting A to satisfy B. In other words, government is a broker in pillage, and every election is sort of an advance auction sale of stolen goods." Never truer words were spoken.

Sadly we most likely can not, hopefully he retires. soon. Other than that, get enough true Conservatives elected to the Senate to vote him out as Lt. Gov., but that is a real stretch.

Legislation aimed at restoring out Right to Arms as intended by the Founders of Tennessee, codified in our Original Constitution of 1796 which stated: Article 11 Section 26 "That the free men of this State have a right to keep and to bear arms for their common defence." is currently being held up by the Senate. We have good solid House members who will bring legislation and a leadership that is while not gung-ho on our issues, is not obstructive. The current Speaker is not a man who is overly concerned with gun Rights, but, he is a politician who I truly believe has sights on higher office. Most likely a run for Governor in '26, and as such, wants to have any very vocal has money and willing to work conservative minority unopposed to his ascension. (State wide radio adds this last session prove that gun Rights activist can have an effect, the switch board at the General Assembly was shut down for a full week due to the number of calls generated by a call to action and bill boards put up in strategic districts.) House Champions are Rep.s Clay Doggett, Rusty Grills and Chris Todd. (Doggett sits as Chair of Judiciary Sub Committee, he is a great man and a true supporter of our Rights, Todd and Grills are strong advocates as well and work hard to further our cause. Our problem is the Senate. This is a group of Untouchables that stand with their foot on the neck of restorative legislation and the Don of that family is Lt. Gov. Randy McNally. In negotiations on the "Constitutional Carry" issues last session, the mantra was "we got everything the Lt. Gov. would allow." In talking with the NRA lobbyist, he specifically stated that the constriction to true Constitutional Carry was the Lt. Gov., and he should know, he worked for him for years and helped put the current Senate ion place as he was in charge of campaigns for the GOP, and served as an aid to Gov. Bill Lee prior to taking the position of lobbyist with the NRA. (Side note, TFA and the NRA actually are trying to mend fences, and, get them to realize that Tennesseans should be involved in dealing with Tennessee issues, the prior lobbyist from the NRA was a Democrat from Virginia who donated money to Ralph Northam, not someone who should be sitting like a hen on our rights I think...I was a Life Member of the NRA before the current lobbyist was born.) Current Champions in the Senate for our issues are Paul Rose, Kerry Roberts and Mike Bell. They sit on the most important committee (Senate Judiciary) and I believe Senator Rose to be the best man in that organization. I can get a meeting with him and he will listen to the facts, we try to get our House sponsors to work with him, if he sponsors a bill it is going to go forward. Senator Joey Hensley also is on our side. However the main hurdle to good solid restorative legislation is the Lt. Gov.

If Kelly Keesling is your Rep, he is pretty good. Gun Rights are not his primary focus, but he does not vote against us. Also, he does not sit on any committees that hear our bills, but, he has signed on as co-sponsor when asked to, and I always ask. Mark Pody is a strong an ally as we have, but the Lt. Gov. has limited his ability to get anything done, as he was always a supporter of Mae Beavers and that is anathema to the Establishment. Remember McNally is in place because Ron Ramsey annointed him (McNally), and he plays ball with the Chamber.

Who are your Rep and Senator?

If we could get every person who is actually interested in holding on to our Right to keep and bear arms to join together, we could. It will take pushing the correct candidates and removing the wrong ones, we got where we did this year by virtue of having three new real gun friendly guys in the correct positions to carry our water. The old Establishment and paid for by Chamber guys will never let us achieve what it took them 225 years to take away from us. Incrementalism will never win the day, they will half the return each time and never let us get there. We each know what the Constitutions say, as long as we say a little is better than none, and not really work to Maggartize these folks our grandchildren will not have the Rights they should. We could do it, but going along to get along is not the answer of how to do so.

Gladly, it means if you have to use deadly force or the threat of deadly force, you can be sued civilly, but can ask the Civil Judge to order a stay till such time as the criminal case is adjudicated. If you are not convicted of a crime, the civil case goes away. think of Treyvon Martin. As it stood, if you could prove yourself innocent of a criminal charge, you could sue the other party to recoup your legal expenses. This is far superior.

Two things. 1. We all know what we should have as a Right to arms, it is spelled out in our Constitutions. 2. Fundraising for TFA is for the PAC. No Officer or board member draws a dime from these funds, of any sort. Our financials are public for anyone to see and unlike other organizations that use raised money for personal gain/gain TFA does not allow that. Quite the contrary, John donates huge amounts of billable hour time to this endeavor at no recompense other than a desire to see Tennessee returned to the original construct, (1794 Constitution Article 11 Section 26) that any free man could bear arms for the common defense. We are guaranteed that the legislature and our government is to keep their grubby dew claws off that Right, yet we are complacent and complicit in its loss via statute. This year gave us Civil Immunity, that is a great thing for Tennesseans. We can accomplish much if gun owners understand the Constitution, its intent and work together to accomplish those ends. To quote Paine: "A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice."

Long guns are legal, loaded in your vehicle, if you can legally possess them.

And yet, it is illegal for anyone to use pot, drive without insurance, do coke or heroine... Just because there is some statute against something, does not make it Constitutional or enforceable.

Thanks! Did not know that!

Dang it I need a couple and you were in town today, I am always late...

Paul Rose is showing metal as a legislator. In my opinion one of the few Senators that actually get it. I know him personally, worked for his firm for a year, he is an honest, caring man that wants to do the Constitutional thing. He helped with Civil Immunity in committee last year.

Every Legislator had an opportunity to sign on, ever single one!

I have never spoken to her, so it leads me to think she is not a supporter. If she were, her name would have been on the letter. Something tells me Knoxville does not have a lot of 2nd Amendment supporters in elected positions...

There is a huge difference in Terry Lynn Weaver and Susan Lynn, which is your legislator?