Handsome Rob

Well, I got some fantastic news yesterday. I went to the lease a friend of mine has (had) up near Decatur. It's a great little campsite, with 85 acres of real thick brush, cabins for ouruse & a bar! 4 of us spent a few hours hanging stands & clearing lanes. I joined in his lease this year, along with 3 other guys. We all met up at the bar afterwards for a few barley sodas & to discuss plans when the land owner came in. She very happily informed us that she's sold the land, banked our check & spent the money on a one-way plane ticket back to her family home in Wisconsin. I'd been banking on hunting this lease all season & now I'm stuck without anywhere to hunt, other than public land. I wasted 6 hours work, 5 hours round-trip driving, 3 tanks of diesel driving back & forth + $150 in lease fees. Awesome. So, does anyone know of any open leases around Franklin/Coffee/Lincoln/Moore/Grundy or Marion Counties, or possibly a hunt club I could join in with? I don't hunt with anything but traditional archery gear & traditional muzzleloaders & frankly, I'm not the best hunter in the world. Long on enthusiasm, short on talent, so I'm not going to clean up anyone's deer population! Really need y'alls help here guys!

Did you not considered the fact that the Big Bang theory had not been postulated until long after all four were dead, before you posted?!?!?! You would think that a 60 year old, who is obviously fairly well read would have a little more common sense, wouldn't you?

I'm not sure which I'm looking forward to the most; Meeting up with one of my best friends, my first sighting of The Rockies, the dry air, the hunting or the 2 day drive out there! I've never been further west than Crane, TX & I'm really anticipating getting to see more of this great country. I just hope I've got all my licenses & tags right. The WY Fish & Game regs are a nightmare to understand if you've never done it before!

Just outside of Pinedale. Going to go stay with a really good hunting buddy for a week or so.

I'm headed out to Wyoming in October. 2 antelope tags & a cow/calf Elk tag in my pocket, longbow in m' hand. Can't wait!

I don't read Klingon.

'cept people from; BRAZIL CANADA CHINA (mainland) - Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan are eligible COLOMBIA DOMINICAN REPUBLIC ECUADOR EL SALVADOR GUATEMALA HAITI INDIA JAMAICA MEXICO PAKISTAN PERU PHILIPPINES POLAND SOUTH KOREA UNITED KINGDOM (and its dependent territories) - Northern Ireland are eligible GRRRRRRRR!! VIETNAM 'cos we're all ineligible for a Green Card unless we're a) Married to a Citizen Multi Millionaires c) Employed by a US company that can prove that no US citizen can do the job d) Related by blood to a US citizen, or e) A refugee, informant or have helped the US to overthrow our own government However, I digress. Killer Of Death (said in a deep, gravelly voice) is still gayer than a 'frisco chorus line.

Rocks like a fox with a box full of socks! Can't wait!

Jamie, I didn't write this, it's quoted from a reply on another forum, but it's exactly what I was gonna type anyway, regarding the Universe as an Atom, Theory. "You're not the first person to wonder that. The first thing to remember with this line of thinking is that we have no information about anything "outside" of this universe (if such a place exists at all)...so we're mostly limited to speculation (imaginative and mathematical). In general, our universe does not seem to behave like a subatomic particle...so it's probably not...but then again, we cannot see our universe "from the outside". But, there are scientific speculations that our universe is but one in an infinite number of other, equally valid universes or that our universe is contained within a larger meta-universe. Interesting to think about...no hard evidence though. Check out the "many worlds" theory, M-theory (string theory), etc."

I just had to go Google 'pastafarian' Sheer Genius!

Hmmmm that there could be a universal truth. I myself have just polished off a drop of 18 year old Talisker. Refill required!

C'mon trig, you can do better than that. Things like that are created by a person, not a divine being. The designs & manufacturing materials & methods have obviously evolved & improved over time. Think before you drink before you post

You know what? I honestly think that is has been one of th most informative & educational forum threads (for me) that I've been a part of for a long time!

The difference being that historical accounts of battles etc... were written at the time, by observers & witnesses. The bible was written a long time after the fact (no pun intended!) History regularly discredits accounts that are later proven to be second or third hand.

Could you please tell me which ones? No proof exists that any of them are true.

That would be petrification, not fossilization. Petrification takes place when minerals are completely deposited on the outside of an object & take the form of the object they surround. Fossilization is a process of lithification & remineralisation by the surrounding minerals Not really. That's like pouring concrete over something & calling it a fossil. Once again, Mt St. Helens remains are petrified, not fossilized. the remains were covered in hot volcanic ash & molten lava which hardened upon cooling, leaving mineral covered remains.

When's the new season of Dexter start?

Oh dear. You'd done so well with your previous post. One more time and this is just for trigem; Just because Science can't yet fully explain someting, doesn't automatically indicate the presence of a God's hand in it's creation.

I just pulled a story off the top of my head, I'm not trying to make any comparisons other than that both are stories that may, or may not, be fictional. Star Wars was probably a bad example, because the author is still alive & can deny it's truth. Possibly a better story would've been Dante's Divine Comedy. Believeable if you're in that frame of mind, but in reality, just a story. Who's to say though, that 1500 years from now Star Wars can't be the basis for a World Religion? It tells the story of good prevailing against evil, so it does have some basic moral teachings for us all & no-one will be alive to prove it's origins as a fictional movie.

Hey, I'm just using what you give me. You said that Adam & Eve could've lived for billions of years before they ate of the tree of knowledge. I assume that you understand your own standpoint & I'm debating with the statements that you offer up. I don't need to understand what I'm arguing against. If I understood it I could either agree or disagree. As I don't understand, I'm questioning on my way to understanding. Incedentally I have read the Bible (And the Tora & Koran, by the way) However, I read all 3 from the standpoint of someone reading a book. I didn't read them to particularly understand & absorb the teachings, more to understand the thinking behind blind belief. Just bfore we go any further, I'd ik to point out that I do not believe. That said, I do respect the right to belief. I know how it can enrich & enlighten the lives of believers & can comfort in a a way that nothing else can. I do not wish to belittle the beliefs of others, I just wish to understand the reasonings behind those beliefs. If I have come across as insulting to anyone's beliefs, I humbly apologise.

"Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level & beat you with experience"

Cite your proof. If you read it simply as fictional story, it's a fantastically entertaining read.

So then we have to believe that a long time ago, people had a life expectancy of (possibly) billions of years? That single fact, for me, throws the entire argument out of the water. I don't think I have made any definately false statements, but I do think you've made at least one that is incomprehensibly odd, that being the possible age of Adam & Eve being in the billions of years & the fact they may have been superhuman is unimportant. If they existed at all, which I firmly believe is a long shot at best & as likely as Princess Leah & Luke Skywalker.

I think the point I have been trying to make is that Religion, all Religion as based on books. People who believe these religons take the stories in these books and take them as the truth, as absurd as some of them may be. I simply cannot wrap my head around the fact that people can believe these stories to be true & yet dismiss other stories (Let's say, Star Wars) to be fictional. Star Wars is set 'Long, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away' Therefore it's unproveable & probably (although not defintely) made up. The Bible was written long ago, in a country far away, buy an unknown person. How is it any more plausible than Star Wars? The physics behind the creation of the Universe is, admittedly, sketchy but it is plausible & large amounts of it are proveable. The entire theory of creationism teeters on the acceptance of the bible as being ultimately true, implausible as it may be.

So, the bible's true apart from the parts that aren't, or are are unexplainable, but let's choose to believe it anyway & build theories that fit, until we decide they don't and change them or are proved wrong so we'll change the parameters of the theory so they fit again?