It all started by doing a search on the internet and asking a question about SD and how come a friend's high SD was shooting tighter groups than his low SD. Good information is valuable no matter how old it is. Still trying to find that powder / bullet / brass and primer combo that will replicate off the shelf FGMM 168 and 175 FGMM since that is all I will ever shoot or have a need for. I have tried 178 gr ELD-X think that may be the way I want to go but FGMM will be what's available if times get hard. I do have one other question I've never asked before. Is 168 / 175 FGMM the same as what the military uses in the battle fields. Meaning are the SD and MV the same and is the powder in FGMM and LC loads the same.