MacGyver

I'm curious to see your opinion when you guys get it out in the field.  They seem like decent shotguns at an attractive price point.

Would you still be satisfied with the deal even if you can't turn it around and sell it?

That's it.  You've reached the end of TGO.  Congratulations!  Unfortunately, with ammo being like it is, we're out of prizes.   Check the bar over at the left of the screen and make sure "Content I have not read" is checked.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/14/5103084/1-6-million-silencer-fraud-us-navys-second-investigation-november

I live in Brentwood, and there are a lot of people with stupid money here.  And, there are plenty of places that cater to exactly that crowd.    There are also some great folks here!  Like anywhere, there's some truth to the old statement that if you don't look deep enough, you'll find exactly what you were expecting to see.   At my daughters school, there aren't nearly as many kids on free or reduced lunch as in other areas of metro - but it's higher than you might think around 25-30%.  We're on the Davidson county side of Brentwood, so our school is actually pretty diverse.   There are rich and middle class and even some who are truly poor, here.  Luckily for most of us, the rich do a pretty good job walling themselves up in their gated enclaves.  But, anytime any of you are here, come on down and shoot me a note.  Let's have some tacos or something :)

I really do wish them success.  We need fewer gun stores not less.   That said, it's so interesting to me that every gun shop in the Franklin/Brentwood area in recent years has seen no benefit in being a part of the TGO community.  This is a highly loyal bunch, and we've had some great vendors that understand that (Hero Gear of old, G&L, D&T, etc...)  I guess that says more about the community they(we) live in than it necessarily does about any of them, but I don't see how it's going to work out for them in the long run.   You can only gouge your customer base for so long before most of them go somewhere else. 

TGO is a loyal, if skeptical bunch.  I can only say that I hope people have long memories of who their friends were when times got tough.   Of course, that's assuming something else doesn't happen and we talk to our grandchildren about 2014 like it was the good old days...

When even HuffPo is taking a stand against zero tolerance, you know things are in a sad state...

00 buck in the tube along with a couple of slugs in the side saddle for quick slug changeovers.

A 777 needs 7000ft to land.  Not too many of those outside of major airports.   Still, a 777 has nearly worldwide range and will hold a whole lot of stuff.   Here's hoping the find it or the wreckage quickly.

He is lucky that Henry isn't a litigious company.

Yep.  Pmags work just fine.

Yeah, cut your losses and move into something better.   This thing is a lemon.  Why throw good money at bad?  Even if you got it functioning appropriately, would you ever fully trust it?

It was his second ticket on this train...

well...not exactly a course record...but why push it?   See you later...

I like that Boyd's stock!

They're not going to publicly available until later this month.  I'll post here, as I'm sure will CMT when they go live.

Put a credit freeze on your account. Then try and file your taxes. We're expecting up to 15% of returns to be fraudulent this year.

39 days between October 1 and November 8, 2016.  Those are already long.  Irrespective of issues that may come up between now and then, I figure this will dominate the conversation.  Figure letters will start going out 60-90 days before October 1.

covers policies through October 1, 2016. 

On a related note, Paul Ryan released the following report today on The War on Poverty: 50 years later .  It's worth reading.

Ahh.  That does make it interesting indeed.    The fact that they think they can hide this and not get caught is almost comical.  November should prove interesting.  And, that should make the run up to 2016 even crazier than it's almost certain to be.

Marc, I'd encourage you to inquire with CMT on whole rifles.  While I know that they only do the occasional build, I'm sure they'd be more than willing to talk to you about it.   I'll certainly make any tools/knowledge I have available to anyone who wants to put one together, and I know that several others here have helped a bunch of our members out when putting things together.

Two years puts it to spring of 2016. edited noting that it's two years past the current extension, making it come due October 1, 2016   I'm going to look at it on the positive side of things.  If there's one thing Obama did a remarkable job of in 2007-2008 it was the dismantlement of the Clinton machine.  Further, in making her Secretary of State, he ran her so hard for his first few years in office that she looked like she had been hit by a train.  I'm going to look at this as one final Obama "gift" to Hilary.  Let her explain this thing and try to own it as she seeks the White House.   Couple in the documents just released just released from the Clinton White House, and she's got a real tar baby on her hands.  Of particular note is this one on keeping your doctor - remember that this is from 1994:         The ostensible purpose of the delay was to ease the burden on Democrats in November.  I expect it's not going to do much good, but Obama has to try something.  If the GOP takes the Senate in November then they can really start pushing back with more than just useless gestures.   Interesting times we live in.

I an tell you authoritatively that if I see any ammo that David makes available to our members so that they and their kids can actually shoot for sale anywhere, we're going to have a big issue!   David and I have had this conversation multiple times.  He makes this ammo available to our members so that kids can continue to learn to shoot.  And, I'd encourage you to think about that a little bit.  If you're hoarding all your ammo and not getting out and shooting - who's teaching your kids to be responsible gun owners?  Shooters can be gone in a generation if we don't support it at home and support the programs like the Boy Scouts that teach kids to shoot.   I have ammo set aside, but I also have a deal with all of my friends - that if they're not going to teach their kids how to handle a firearm, then just ask and I'll be happy to teach them how to safely interact with one.  And, if I use my last round of .22LR doing that - that's okay.