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Devil's advocate here.........If Obama walked down the street in a t-shirt and jeans more likely than not people would perceive him to be "a typical black person." You can't tell he is Harvard law grad by looking at him. Alot of people claim to be all open-minded and beyond culturally ingrained prejudices but by and large I think that is bull****. The perception many have of young black men is that of want-to-be gangsta's that carry "foty's wit esstended clips yo." There are running jokes on this very board like that all the time. Whether or not Obama is well educated multi-cultural suburbia born and bred or not. He is black in appearance. That is really(unfortunately) all that many(black & white) will see.

GUN: S&W J-Frame either 642 or 442 AMMUNITION: Speer Golddot 135gr +P Remington Golden Saber 125gr +P Cor-Bon 110gr +P DPX

The Dems were turning out voters at a 3 to 1 ratio. Even if all of Hillary's supporters stayed home Obama would still have half again the number of voters than McCan't. And besides if you were a Hillary supporter and your choices were Obama or McCan't who would you choose?

Not to be a killjoy but Obama will be our next President. You can speculate all you want but learn to deal with it. I to will vote for McCan't but it will not matter. We have survived(even thrived) democratic presidents before. These things are cyclic and the republicans time in the executive branch is up. I personally think that grassroots america needs to focus more on the legislature. Obama is inexperienced and that will definately affect his ability to actually get anything done. If he is a great President then he will only achieve about 40% of his goals. I just hope I can live with that 40%. Obama will be our next president....hell, he may even be a good one. As I watched the news today I couldn't help but notice the genuine positive emotional effect his nomination has had on many(primarily the black community and the global community) people everywhere. People telling stories of making there children watch his speech last night so they could remember when. A world in which my children (4 and 2) will not even think twice about having a black president. It is hard to deny the very real social effect. Then I thought......What if somebody kills him? Hillary as VP! We are so f*%ked!.

Hell yeah,...John Denver kicked ass in his day. Here is one for you Darkstar [ame] [/ame]

The world was a better place with Jim Henson in it. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2TZhruT-Xs&feature=related[/ame]

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Pics please?

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Long Live Eddie! [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgqxQmAbTBc[/ame]

This one is kinda personal. The last year I was on the road fulltime was spent mixing monitors for Joe Satriani and/or G3. I could always tell how good his night was going based on this song... Searching [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_Mq2X2RvBo[/ame]

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Thanks Trip. Seger is one of the few good things I learned from my father. I had a chance to see him not to long ago in Nashville. And now one of my favorites for my Brothers in Arms. [ame] [/ame]

Everyone I have run across has been cheap crap.

I almost forgot............................damn boating accidents.

Purple? Why not go with a plum stock set. http://www.k-var.com/shop/product.php?productid=16214&cat=251&page=4 Couple of plum AK's:

I most likely would be bugging in. I am surrounded on three sides by ex-jarheads and the neighbor on the remaining side is ex-army I am ex-navy and we have already decided we will be banding together to police our own neighborhood in event of SHTF. I might have a Norinco"paratrooper" SKS as the truck gun. This along with a small BOB(jumbo versapak) with 200 rounds on strippers a blow out kit, fixed blade knife, compass, small binoculars, multiplier tool, 100 feet black paracord, couple of powerbars, magnesium firestarter and a bottle of water would be a good starting point. I might also carry a Glock 23 and a S&W 442. My main concern would be getting from work to my wife and kids and then home. If I could only choose one rifle it would be a FN FAL but anyone who has read any of my posts know I am a huge proponet of the deadliest battle implement ever devised the Avtomat Kalashnikov. Hard to argue with the superior barrier penetration of a 7.62 rifle. What is considered cover from a 9mm and 5.56 is merely concealment from a 7.62. Lately I have been into Asians:

If anybody can read this(not on your list) then I am the first mother****er getting banned around here.

Just make sure you get a Warsaw Pact length stock as opposed to a NATO length which is 1.25" longer. Here is a comparison pic: 70 mentioned Ironwood Designs and he is right if you are a wood kind of family they are hard to beat: http://www.ironwooddesigns.com/2aprod/1zAKproduct.html Or if you like tacticool polymer: http://www.k-var.com/shop/home.php?cat=251&sort=orderby&sort_direction=0&page=1

I still say the original pic with the bottle of wishbone is the ****!

There is a poll that so far is 16 to 4 for letting us use words like ****, **** and damn!