Chucktshoes

As I stated, for a brief second it looked like the Republicans were open to reform from within. I am under no illusions that raising a 3rd party to relevence is easy, or even likely in the short term. If it had been possible to make substantive changes to the R party to more closely resemble my libertarian ideals I was willing and wanting to be onboard. The party establishment has made it abundantly clear that they have no interest in hearing from the party's libertarian wing, including those like me willing to join the party, but unwilling to sell out our principles. It is that partisan devotion which concerns me. If Romney does win and becomes president, will you speak up when he engages in the same sort of policies that W. did? Or will he get the same sort of pass because he is on your team? If Romney abuses executive privilege because congress won't pass his agenda, will you still raise hell? Or is is ok because you agree with what he is trying to do. My whole point is that when you step back and look at the actions of both parties over the last few decades, neither one has acted with any sort of integrity. Both parties are corrupt to their rotten, diseased cores. When in power both do the same thing. They spend too much money, pass too many intrusive laws and regulations and hand out favors to their friends at the taxpayer expense R v D has become about having your side win instead of differing visions of what is best for the country.

Your devotion is admirable. I hope you enjoy the peanut flavor.

You mean delegates that were duly elected by the citizens and IAW the rules of the RNC and their individual states? Manufactured unity for the sake of appearances is no unity at all. By disenfranchising the Paul delegates, and by proxy the libertarian wing of the Republican party along with a sizable contingent of folks like myself who are not, and never were Republicans, the RNC has opened itself up to be bit in the ass by us. I don't presume to speak for others, but I can tell you how I view the events surrounding the convention controversy. I see no substantive difference between the Republican and the Democratic Parties. They both want an overly large and intrusive federal government. The R s want to achieve it on a balanced budget while the D is willing to deficit spend to get there. That's the only real difference and to someone like me who is concerned with freedom and personal liberty, it is the difference between deciding whether you want corn or peanuts in your sandwich. There were only 2 reasons I was considering voting R. The USSC was the first and Roberts did a good job of letting me know that battle was already lost. The second reason is that for a minute, it appeared the the R party was vulnerable to being reformed from the inside. What happened with the RP delegation firmly closed the door to that idea. So, I am walking away. We tried it, it didn't work out I'm not going to drive myself crazy trying to force my ideals on a party that doesn't want me, or people like me. To those that would appeal to the libertarian minded folks to vote Romney for the reason of "anybody but Obama" aka "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". Sorry, barking up the wrong tree there, bucko. I view both the R and the D parties as unmitigated enemies of individual freedom and personal liberty. It doesn't matter which party is in power the Republic is dead and it is all over but the shooting.

^ that x eleventy billion.

So Obamneycare and an assault weapons ban are conservative agendas, eh? I didn't know that. Thanks for educating me on those points.

Exactly. It isn't used for ID for proof of address, so when I moved, I changed my address online and didn't worry about going into the DMV.

Just as much as I will enjoy the next 4, regardless of who wins. Like it or not, Romney's words are meaningless when his record in MA shows him to be cut from the very same Fabian Socialist cloth as Obama. So once again, I will pass.

What little I watched of the last few nights was good lip service. We have records to go on, and those records bear no substantial difference from each other. It matters not what a man says he is going to do, but what he has done. Romney in MA is the very model for Obama in DC, I'll pass. I'm voting for Gary Johnson, as all I can see from the R and the D is two bowls of ####, one corn flavored and the other with peanuts, staring at each other.

Please explain how they are substantially different? According to their own words they are a couple of Fabian Socialist peas in a pod.

That was my thought.

There is going to be a gun buy back on Sep. 15th here in Memphis. Anyone interested in going down and seeing if there is anything good we can save from destruction?

Normally I try to avoid places that post as well. Hell, I only go to a movie theater 2 or 3 times a year, but this was a bit of a special occasion. Some friend's of mine and I went to see "Runaway Slave". Seeing that film in theaters outweighed not spending money at Malco.

I've never seen the sign.

You'll keep her, eh? Have you taken an honest look lately at what she has become? Your statement makes me think of a father looking at his junkie prostitute daughter and saying "it's just a phase, she'll grow out of it."

I think you have your tenses wrong. The Republic is already dead, she just ain't stopped moving yet. Romney and Ryan, best case scenario, will only delay the inevitable a few years. I say burn it down now on the hope that something worthwhile can be rebuilt for my daughter, or her children. Otherwise, she is going to be living in a really big banana republic.

Nice! That yours?

That's awesome.

There's the 46% that question it.

Bwahahahaha!

That's just plain wrong.

^ Agreed.

&$&^*%#%€£¥><~#^*{¥£|¥~ Canadians. They should stick to what they know, like being funny,eh?

Yeah, he gets a donut for that one.

And yet the boomers with their huge numbers and much lower numbers of children per household than their parents are why the SS/Medicare programs are so untenable. They didn't have enough kids the keep the pyramid pointed in the right direction.