Chucktshoes

The generally accepted standard in a debate/discussion is that it is incumbent upon the maker of a contested claim to back said claim up. Otherwise I could make the claim that you are functionally retarded and then demand that you provide certified IQ scores to disprove my assertion.

I saw them in concert in 01. Yep loud as hell.

And I'd rather not be robbed when I am out shopping, I guess that means we should ban all guns, eh? Life is risk. You can't eliminate it, but you can minimize it. The question is how much are you willing to give up in the process. I know how much I am willing to give up, that's why I won't fly or take any sort of transit where I have to deal with the TSA as I view their current activities as unreasonable and a violation of my 4th Amendment rights.

We all agree that Robin Meade is hot. I think that this is a good place to end this thread. Quick! Someone lock before somebody else chimes in with a "meh."

Enemies: Foreign and Domestic by Matthew Bracken

So any guesses on how long it takes for the SS to show up on my door?

Some of us are. We just won't vote for someone whom we view as essentially more of the same according to their record. Remember, Romney actually signed an Assault Weapons Ban into law in MA, or is it convenient to forget that little fact? Also, let's take a look at the facts of the TN electorate. Other than Shelby,Davidson and maybe Knox counties, the rest of the state is going as red as it gets. Therefore, my voting my conscience by casting my vote for Gary Johnson (who has the record as in New Mexico you wish Romney had in MA) changes nothing in the short term. What it does do is possibly help the Libertarian Party get a little bit closer to being a viable 3rd party.

Lone Star "The National Beer of Texas"

I figured somebody read the first chapter of EFAD and got nervous.

Sheltered? What part of "due to family history" do you not understand. Let me be a little more specific, due to personal and family history. Think on that for a minute before you formulate tour next response Pedophilia has zero to do the victim's gender and all about the sickness of predator. I never said that there weren't gay pedophiles, they do exist. What I can say is that when looking at the files of convicted child molesters, less than 1% self identify as gay or lesbian, regardless of the gender of the child victim. By the numbers, the youth leader at your church or a scout leader is more likely to diddle your kid than a gay teacher.

When you bring out the "gay predator" meme this sums it up for me. Due to family history, I am quite familiar with sexual predators and the stats behind them and I can tell you it isn't the homos preying on the kiddies. It is the straight family friend or relative that is doing that damage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLUoRXrYhHc

If you wait until middle school for Sex Ed, you have waited too long. It is not uncommon for kids to start puberty at 8 or 9 years old. <I blame our heavy consumption of processed foods.> These days kids are already getting pregnant in middle school, you have to move sex ed to late elementary school.

Have you ever read "The Law" by Frederick Bastiat? In that he lays out a very simple and succinct definition of what constitutes a valid basis for any law. My summary of it is that if a law exists to protect the liberty of the individual from being violated by others then it is valid. Any law that does not directly protect the individual's liberty, especially if it violates the individual's liberty is invalid. Life, liberty and property are not granted by government, but predate its existence. The only valid basis for any government is the protection of life, liberty and property. If we applied that measure to our own local, state and federal statutes I would WAG that over 90% of our laws would disappear. We would be better off for it.

Another +1 here. You said it much better than I was able to. As an aside: I have been saying that the .gov needs to be out of the business of marriage for years. Civil union contracts for all to handle the inheritance, property, next of kin, and the other issues currently associated with marriage are the way to go. It is really awesome to hear more and more people from all political persuasions take up this position.

If only they would see that when the wish to legislate morality and behavior based upon their religious beliefs, they are acting exactly the same the Taliban. I say this not as an atheist or even a very liberal Christian, but as a reasonably conservative one. The Lord's desires for us must be taken on willingly and happily. Just as the liberals get no credit for charity by using the government's gun to support people by way of social welfare programs, we get no credit for morality by forcing folks to live in a manner in which we approve by legislating Christian morality.

You'd think so Strick, but you'd be wrong. You've been talking to the American Taliban.

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And no other state's permit would allow a TN resident to carry inside the state of TN. Just ask Voldemort.

Wait until you get to King Solomon!

When you quoted me as well as Erick, and then used this statement in the response: Was I wrong to assume that it was also directed at me? Notice the use of the plural "guys". Did I read that out of context?

Where did I use an emotional argument? Hell, I didn't even make an argument one way or another, I just pointed out a couple of flaws in yours.

Four out of five of those examples directly violate the individual liberties of others. The fifth (adultery) doesn't and isn't a crime in the majority of states, and where alienation of affection laws remain on the books, they are very rarely enforced.

The reason you have never felt to the need to identify yourself as heterosexual is that in our current cultural context, it is assumed unless there are evident factors to suggest otherwise.

And we have a winner!