Chucktshoes

Well said, 6.8.

Right there with ya. I work retail so I have been dealing with Christmas since August.

[quote name='Dolomite_supafly' timestamp='1353179820' post='847269'] Huh.... The OP was advocating giving gun rights to criminals. And as far as I was aware once convicted of a crime, even domestic violence, you ARE a criminal. Now maybe we live on two worlds but in my world someone who has been convicted or pleads guilty to a crime is a criminal. Dolomite[/quote] 12 years ago I pled guilty to driving on a suspended/revoked license and also to a charge of "failure to appear" as I missed a court date and didn't realize it was that big of a deal. Spent 3 days locked up for that one. It is my understanding that "Failure to Appear" is a class A misdemeanor. Am I a criminal? I pled guilty to a criminal charge. Your stance doesn't allow for nuance, or for the fact that sometimes folks do stupid crap in their youth and can and do learn from it. Misdemeanor crimes are misdemeanors for a reason. They are minor in nature and not viewed to be so serious as to warrant lifelong consequences. I would offer that "criminal" more aptly describes someone who habitually engages in illegal acts, probably without signs of remorse. I would not necessarily say it describes someone who has pled guilty or been convicted of a crime or crimes based upon a single act or someone who has shown that they have learned from past behavior and lives life in accordance with the law.

I feel like one would be obligated to give a reasoned, nuanced rebuttal to his arguments, but the only response that comes to mind (that he might understand) is, "You my friend, are an idiot!" That guy is an English major? Really? The construction of that column does not speak well of that school's English department. I only have a high school education, so if my sentence construction and grammar aren't top shelf, it is to be expected. What's his excuse?

[quote name='Razz' timestamp='1353079900' post='846545']Oh man, do I understand your struggle. I spent four years in the wasatch mountains, in Utah. I've NEVER felt more at peace than when I was in the mountains. I put myself at ease, most days, by remembering that I will return to the mountains one day. Here's to hoping we find our way back... Razz[/quote] Where were ya? I spent the first year after I got out of the AF living in Ogden /Salt Lake corridor.

[quote name='Worriedman' timestamp='1353070581' post='846451'] In a conversation in his office in September, he says the bill will NOT include a "Fed Ex" style fenced lot exclusion. We shall see.[/quote] Yep. Forgive me if I have a lack of faith in this area. I remember Ronnie courting us gun owners quite heavily when he was running for governor he said a lot then and we know how that turned out.

Imagine that, being responsible for the services you receive as a direct consumer. Imagine that!

If I was a betting man, the bill will include public lots and exclude fenced/secured non-public lots. That's the "compromise" I see being pushed. It would give us the bill, but cover their asses with folks like VW and FedEx. Regardless, it looks like Ramsey got the hint that he needs to produce something quickly.

[quote name='OhShoot' timestamp='1353033279' post='846319'] I don't understand that. Threads for commercial and mil spec tubes are supposed to be the same, are they not? - OS[/quote] It wasn't the threading that was his issue, it was the stock he bought afterwards.

[quote name='Steelharp' timestamp='1352867400' post='845293'] Then... are you sure about 5.56?[/quote] What you did there, I see it.

[quote name='Murgatroy' timestamp='1352855155' post='845117']I like my toe shoes.[/quote] Me too.

[quote name='crimsonaudio' timestamp='1352840578' post='844984']Where were all you guys who are so pissed about losing your rights when the Patriot Act was enacted (or the three further authorizations)? I'm no Obama-apologist, but it strikes me as odd that none of this 'liberty or death' talk was heard when Bush was in office.[/quote] We didn't know each other back then but I was walking a very fine line between protected speech and seditious threats to government figures. Pretty much the same as now.

[quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1352836999' post='844939'] Yes, it was a stinking mess. That's why it is so puzzling to hear people talking about doing it again. Civil unrest and secession aren't just ideas that you casually float around. [/quote] Though we seem to be on the opposite side of the larger issue, I agree with this statement. They are ideas that aren't just casually floated, but who says there is anything casual about this discussion of these topics? The constitution that you, me and many others here swore that oath to defend isn't just about our current administration, or any administration over our history. It is about the ideas of freedom and personal liberty. It was written to protect those ideals and for the people to be able to retain them. The US government lost it's way before our grandparents were born. At this point I truly believe the government to be an enemy of the people of this nation and the constitution we swore an oath to defend. The only way to save the latter, is to destroy to former as reformation is impossible at this point. I could be completely wrong. Maybe in a few years the people and the states will rise up and peacefully reclaim what was stolen from them by the socialist central planners on both sides of the aisle in DC. I hope I am wrong, but I doubt it.

[quote name='cardcutter' timestamp='1352821702' post='844826'] I think there will also be a heavy racial element to it as well. Lets face it there are a lot more minorities on the dole than whites. Besides the opposition to Obama will be seen by the blacks as racist.[/quote] Not quite true. If you don't parse out the percentages of recipients in relation to percentage of population and only look at the raw numbers, there are more whites on welfare. In fact the single largest user of TANF is the single white mother. Believe it or not, there are still more of us crackers in this country than anyone else.

Bwahahaa!

[quote name='gregintenn' timestamp='1352610882' post='843602']Maybe he just wanted everyone to know he was tapping the biographer.She is a quite attractive woman.[/quote] Meh.

Looks like the author of that article and I are of the same mind. The problem with the nation is the citizenry, and there isn't any hope of fixing that problem. It is going to have to correct itself, and boy is it going to be a bad day for everyone when it finally comes to pass.

I believe I picked up what you were laying down. I am just of the opinion that any hope of salvaging this country in its current form is a false one. The impossible debt and insolvency you allude to are already upon us. The folks in Washington are just able to still shuffle the numbers still. That time is quickly coming to an end, nobody can stop it. Not only is nobody able to stop it, nobody would even really try to because the American populace wouldn't let them if they did.

[quote name='RobertNashville' timestamp='1352610193' post='843595']No one is going to save us from $20Trillion debt and a bankrupt country. NO ONE.[/quote] Nope. Nobody was going to save us from $16 trillion debt and a country that only appears to be solvent.

I don't get your standard eggnog that has the low fat option. I get the good #### without HFCS or excess processing. You can't get a low fat version of the real thing. Speaking of which, I just need to learn how to make it myself.

Next time you come across a story like that and feel like sharing, don't.

I hate holidays, and most especially Christmas. However, I loves me some eggnog. I probably put on 10 lbs every winter just from the amount of eggnog I drink.

[quote name='DaveS' timestamp='1352598022' post='843427'] Since your property is up for sale, why not just give the guy permission to hunt? Dave S[/quote] I'm not the OP, but if I was, this would be my answer to that question. "Because he didn't ask." If it ain't your land, and you don't have permission from the owner, you know you ain't supposed to be there.

[quote name='DaveTN' timestamp='1352595281' post='843396'] Taking up arms against other Americans is something you should never think about. When you die, you are just dead. If it was a good cause you are a martyr. If it was a bad cause you are a terrorist. Has someone suggested coming to your home and taking your guns?[/quote] Diane Feinstein.

[quote name='leroy' timestamp='1352486862' post='842579']Robert:____________ My 23 year old bludgoned me into not callin myself a Republican anymore about a year ago. As he is fond of sayin: "...I'm an equal opportunity political hater. I hate both political parties....". I think he is right. Ive finally realized that im a radical isolationist libertarian. I think we need to call all the troops home, quit sendin money to our enemies in other countries, and stop the dole... period. As John Smith said"...." No work, no eat....". I realize all that aint gonna happen; but that's the criteria that im usin for evaluating polititicos. Oh, by the way, im an Elitist too. As one of my ole buddies used to say: "....The older i get, the more elitist i become....". I know exactly what he wuz sayin. I find myself bein the same way. leroy[/quote] I wish I could like this post a thousand times, Leroy. You are spot on with my views these last few years. My political views are pretty simple these days. I don't care what you want to do, or how you want to live your life, just don't ask me to subsidize or pay for it in any way, shape, form or fashion.