Chucktshoes

How'd we end up in agreement on a subject? :lol: There is not a word of what you have written here that I would disagree with. I understand the difference between what the law is and what I think it should be regardless of whether I agree with it or not. When I draw a line in the sand I do it with open eyes and acceptance for all possible outcomes.

If you demand my ID and do not allow me to leave, am I not being detained? If an officer detains me, are they not required to have a RAS that I have or am about to commit a crime?

There is difference between checking out someone due to a mwag call and having the ability to compel them to produce ID or answer questions.

That question is a red herring and not germane to the discussion at hand. The courts have pretty consistently ruled against your position. If the carrying of a gun is not in and of itself a crime then there is no legal right for the officer to demand ID on the basis of identifying the citizen's (not subject) legal status. To put it bluntly, unless the citizen is or has engaged in an activity that provided RAS for the stop to fall under Terry V. Ohio, then who the citizen is and their legal status is none of the officer's business without being consensually provided by the citizen.

In a state like MO where the open carrying of a firearm is not a crime, the courts have ruled that it does not rise to the level of providing RAS for a Terry stop. In MO or any other unlicensed OC state walking down the street with a gun on your hip is the legal equivalent of walking down the street wearing a red shirt.

I commend him for his quick thinking and bravery in saving the beer. I salute you good sir, whomever you are!

And yet even people that homeschool, private school on those with no kids pay taxes for all of those public school teachers.

The laws are different here than there. In TN the carrying of a firearm is a crime, in Missouri it isn't. That means that here the open wearing of a firearm provides RAS. In Missouri where open carrying is a legal activity, the open wearing of a firearm does not in and of itself provide RAS of a crime. Therefore unless there were some other evidence that provided RAS of a crime, he can ask all the questions he wants to but the girls were under no legal obligation to answer them. The cop also had no standing to detain them without providing that RAS.

Unless the officer has a RAS that someone has committed crime, then to be blunt, it isn't any of their damn business. When did things change that it was incumbent upon a citizen (subject?) to prove that they are innocent of any wrongdoing to the overseers...errr...authorities?

I wouldn't be so sure of that statement. In fact, I would second this advice from Sigmtnman and read the work of John Taylor Gatto before I said something like that with any certainty. Public schools are doing exactly what they were designed to do and helping make a complete, thinking person ain't it.     Read "The Underground History of Education" here.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/25/jewish-americans-get-on-board-the-immigration-reform-train.html   The headline for this op-ed on The Daily Beast advocating for Jews to "get on the train" for immigration reform. Let that sink in for a second.

Just tell them this and then wait for the head explosion. "The oppression of native peoples is part of my cultural heritage and you must respect it." 

I think that's every day.

Here is a politically charged video out of Hollywood I can actually agree with.   [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGmiw_rrNxk[/media]

  FTFY. 

Upon further consideration, don't take this Jeep off road. Why you might ask? Trees.

You are ascribing the views of others, which I have neither stated nor endorsed, to me. Please don't. If you want to debate others for views they hold, cool, but that isn't what I have said so don't expect me to defend other's positions. I do OC on occasion. I would like long gun OC legalized because I can foresee times where it would be appropriate. I don't think strapping my AR to my back and heading down to Starbucks (who doesn't want my gun there in the first place) and all but screaming "look at me!!!!" falls under the heading of appropriate. That still doesn't mean I think the government has any business making a law against it. Just as I don't want other folks using the government against me to legislate their idea of what is or is not a good idea, I refuse to do the same to others. Laws should not be used to protect people from themselves. There is a vast difference between me saying, "what you are doing is stupid and you are a dumbass for doing it" and "what you are doing is stupid, so we made it illegal. Now turn around and place your hands behind your back." One of them is the expression of an opinion, the other is an act of violence. Like I said before, just because I don't think an action should be illegal, doesn't mean I can't call you a dumbass for doing it.

Almost, but not quite. The tarring and feathering is a little much. Here's the thing, just because something may not be a good idea for whatever reason, does not mean that the government should be making laws against it. I don't think it is a good idea to use IV drugs like heroin. I also don't think the government has any business making it illegal and stealing from the populace to wage a horrendous drug war against them to stop a consensual activity. No victim, no crime.   Edited to add: Just because I don't think there should be a law against what somebody is doing, doesn't mean I can't tell them that they are a dumbass for doing it.

I'd prefer Coolidge myself.

It is impossible to hit anything with it. The only downside is the stereo is only compatible with the iPhone as it has a history of not recognizing Droids.

I guess they had to do a tech surge and fix it. :D

Because it isn't Thursday?

David Codrea has it right, get it out there on your FB page or other social media. Don't just download it yourself, tell others about it so the message contained in these books can be spread far and wide. http://www.examiner.com/article/free-downloads-for-second-book-enemies-trilogy-starts-today

If you have to force it, you need more lube.

I don't disagree with this at all. It was the introduction of a more clearly defined and structured environment that actually started to help me with my behavioral issues. The Ritalin just masked them by turning me into a doped up zombie. I would say that even including the kids that have a real, definable issue like I did (there were 3 days of inpatient testing involved in my diagnosis) the vast majority can be better helped with consistent structure and discipline than with the drugs. The drugs hide the underlying issues so the parents and other parties don't have to deal with them.