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Bust Out Another Thousand

I think that’s a question only you can answer. What would you get more enjoyment out of? Boats and guns do seem to share one similarity in that neither gets used as much as folks think they will when they get them and tend to spend a lot of time gathering dust.

This bill as written I think will pretty much guarantee an increase in officer contacts with citizens.

I’m coming to the same conclusion. It leaves intact the baseline that carrying a gun is a crime and only creates a narrow defense to prosecution. This is a bad bill. I can support incremental steps, but I’m now very unsure if this is an actual improvement.

Like I mentioned before, I have a lifetime permit so I get nothing out of this. I still want better for my fellow citizens for whom this does benefit. I’ll take it on the incremental win that it is, but I t still needs work and the legislature will continue to need to be pressed on that front.

This is probably the best option for you based on your location. https://www.tnsportsfoundation.org

Which is why I mentioned the limited reciprocity. I don’t think the border states that have Con-Carry have the residency requirements (I could be wrong) so if that’s the case it’s a way better deal all around.

Is it just me, or does it seem like once this goes into effect it’s a better deal than the CC permit That passed last year? Only thing it doesn’t grant is the limited reciprocity in other states. If that isn’t an issue, then the CC permit isn’t worth bothering with.

This is very disappointing.

Exactly. Our entire system of government was founded on the idea that all rights reside in the people individually who cede certain powers to the government for the purpose of an orderly functioning society. Government grants nothing to the people. It is the people who grant the government its very existence.

Joined a few months back.

Welcome to West TN. All we ask is that you understand that we like the way things are around here. If you ever utter the words “we didn’t do it like that back in _______,” it should be immediately followed by a statement to the effect that it’s better here. With that out of the way; Welcome to our home!

What part of the state are you moving to?

Yes and no in that order. If the guns are legal federally, they are legal here and the government of TN doesn’t have any interest in what guns you own. Welcome and have fun!

This hits really close to home.

If it were to go to court, you could claim anything you wanted to, buT that doesn’t mean a judge or jury would buy it. As long as a firearm is physically present, there really isn’t any way to remove it from the situation other than removing yourself from the premises. I would highly recommend ceasing to speak about it on the internet. Also, if arrested or served with a summons about the incident, retaining the services of the best lawyer you and any relatives willing to chip in can afford would be the best thing you can do. Remember, we don’t have a justice system. We have a legal system that allows you all the justice you can afford.

1000% @Machunk714, let me offer you the best advice I can. Let it go. Whatever money, time or emotion has been spent dealing with the other parties involved is lost. There’s no getting it back and you will only waste more of your life attempting to accomplish whatever it is that you are seeking here. You made a very unwise move openly wearing a gun into a tense domestic environment. If it only cost you $200 to extricate yourself from it, consider yourself Lucky and that $200 money well spent. Just walk away and try and learn a few lessons here about how to spot bad situations and avoid them. There is no winning here other than moving on with your life. Just let it go, bud. Let it go.

Tim at MAC had a lot of problems with his. I know he’s not alone in that. Taurus did a much better job with their TX-22, and it carries 6 more rounds per mag. .22 not withstanding, it’s not a gun I would even consider for self defense. I would only get it if I was married to the Glock platform and wanted a tool for failure drills.

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For the record, those of y’all who are expressing your discomfort and dislike of Constitutional carry sound real familiar. Y’all should go back and read the news articles from around the time when Tennessee was first pondering its shall issue handgun carry statute. You sound just like the “streets will run red with blood” anti-gunners from then. Hell, if that’s too far back for you then why don’t you check the threads on this very board from when the laws were being changed to allow carry in restaurants that serve alcohol. It’s always the same argument every time. It’s also the same results every time. Nothing bad at all happens. Nobody ever really thinks the law is necessary for themselves. It’s always to protect them from those other idiots who aren’t responsible. That argument motivated by simple fear of other people is the same argument anti-gunners use against us when they seek to ban assault weapons or whatever else it is they’re after.

While I vehemently disagree with Tom’s view, we’ve had a few of our own express the same view. To me that is a much more egregious offense. They should know better.

The courts have ruled that in a state where the open carrying of a firearm is a legal activity, it does not provide sufficient PC for a Terry stop. So, if TN passes Con Carry, police will no longer be allowed to use that as a reason to initiate a stop, or at least cannot detain or compel a citizen to interact with them because of the firearm. There’s no RAS of a crime because unlike now, carrying a firearm won’t be a crime.

https://ammo.com/articles/waco-siege-branch-davidian-compound-standoff-atf-raid-us-federal-government In related news, the FBI and the DOJ lied. A lot. In case anybody ever wondered where my general feeling of antipathy towards the federal government comes from, look no further than Waco and Ruby Ridge. These events showed teenage me what the federal government was really about. You will bend the knee, or they will burn you and your whole family alive.

Bingo! No crime, no reason for a Terry stop.