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1851, 1860, 1861 revolver comparisons
Mike.357 replied to Mark@Sea's topic in Curio, Relics and Black Powder
Mark if you did shorten up a BP revolver you would need some sort of loading contraption for the cylinder. Even if you were able to come up with a way to shorten the loading lever I am not sure you could get proper leveredge to use it easily enough. Of course being in .36 it will be somewhat easier to load. My Remington is 5.5 inches and while I can do it with the lever a loading stand works so much easier. But then again the cylinder comes right out of the '58. Not a deal breaker on your Colt repro I am sure but something to be aware of. I have loaded my 51 Navy's with the loading doohicky. It just takes an extra step to remove the cylinder. But then again it is just another layer of fun to be had ,LOL -
your lucky Tungsten, if my wife ever shot a gun, let alone wanted to clean one you could pretty well figure hell has froze over.
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1851, 1860, 1861 revolver comparisons
Mike.357 replied to Mark@Sea's topic in Curio, Relics and Black Powder
I have seen pics over on THR of and 1861 snubbed up. It was different looking. I think it had a two inch barrel, can't remember if it had a front sight. I have not seen firsthand any BP revolver with a fluted cylinder other than my 1873. I have seen them in pic and I like the way blued fluted cylinders look. Once you start looking around here in the internet you can find all kinds of revolvers. Just got to hit up the right sites. here is a decent link for general info, it is a e-zine all about BP http://www.blackpowderrevolver.net/index.html oops, you will not like this at all ,LOL item 1765 and 1766 specifically, LOL scroll through the page and you will see them http://www.buffalobillsshootingstore.com/muzzleloaders.html -
Deerslayer no offense intended. I believe you can draw, aim and fire in a second and a half from an accessible holster. I guess my definition of deep concealment is along the lines of a pistol under a tucked in shirt, or in an ankle holster. Is there a definitive definition of deep concealment?
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1851, 1860, 1861 revolver comparisons
Mike.357 replied to Mark@Sea's topic in Curio, Relics and Black Powder
And as for the rifle/shoulder stock for the percussion revolver, they are an interesting curio. But be very careful to not shoot the gun "rifle" style by holding the gun ahead of the cylinder. It could get ugly and painful in a hurry. -
1851, 1860, 1861 revolver comparisons
Mike.357 replied to Mark@Sea's topic in Curio, Relics and Black Powder
I really have not seen much C&B in SS. Ruger used to make the Ruger Old Army, it was in stainless. The ROA is a total bastard gun much like the Uberti Cattleman 1873 is. And like the 1873 from Uberti, Ruger does not hide the fact that it is not an authentic BP era pistol. They are out of production but can still be found NIB as well as used. I believe the Ruger is about the best made percussion pistol ever made. But be ready to pay top dollar for them, 400 to 500 bucks. -
made it through another weekend. Today was most definitely the easiest day so far. To be honest I only even thought of smoking one time today. Not that I was thinking I wanted one but I was thinking how I had not thought about it all day, LOL
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I will make sure to bring some different powders and measures to shake down the best charge for that gun, I'd like to see us flood that little draw full of spark and smoke. Shooting old school style! I wonder if back in the day when they came out with .44 cal revolvers if they referred to the .36 cal as Euro wussy rounds? LOL
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hooker thats funny right there, I can tell you have been doing your homework here since signing on, LOL. Thanks for the vote Price, LOL I may be a lot of things but a holder of the tongue is not one of them.
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Tungsten you all do a good , make that great job on this board. In spite of all the crap don't let it lower standards or get you all down. personally I think yall ought to offer an olive branch to Frank. But do us all a favor and do it off the board, LOL
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price posted what?
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way to go Tower, nothing like buying a new gun or three, I know the feeling and it is a nice one. I am glad I do not have to face the wrath of "she who must be obeyed" I sure wish you were here in Knoxville working on stuff. Life would be funner. * credit to Dotsun for this line
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definitely go with steel frame. Someday when you get ate up with it like I am you can pick up a brass frame. They are always on the cheap. But if you look around you can get steel for 30 bucks more than brass. The steel frame will help the gun last a hundred years or more. The one biggest tip I can offer on a Colt reproduction is to be very careful with the wedge (lock). Start pounding it into the gun to hard or too far and you will stretch out the slot in the cylinder pin. Too much pressure at this point of the pistol will also add stress to the internal action of the gun. It only needs to go in far enough to work, less is more kind of thing. Mostly you learn this stuff from experience.
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sometimes it is best to unsay things ,LOL
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rightwinger ruined it, I scrolled before really looking, lol I doubt I would have seen it. Heck them leaves and such looks just the woods where we were shooting yesterday and today. I heard something on the ground today but never saw whatever it was.
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wanted to add one more thing, +1 to Boom's post
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yall are acting like a bunch of babies, I about can't stand it anymore. I perfectly well know my options.
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I'd go with what Mark says!!
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I watch a lot of the Encore Western Movie Channel. They show Gene Autry movies and serials among western genre movies and such. There is one on now titled "Twilight on the Rio Grande". The description of it says " A cowboy (Autry) discovers his ranching partner has been murdered as part of a plot to bring illegal aliens into the U.S." It was made in 1947, not sure of the time frame depicted but i am guessing 1930's? There are electric lights in some places and cars in some scenes. In one scene Autry asks a Mexican police chief for permission to wear a gun. ( He is denied) Kind of odd to see an Autry movie where he is not wearing his sidearm. My point is I found it interesting that Autry or Republic Pictures (whoever had artistic control) had views like this on illegal aliens back in 1947.
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that mini T is gonna run a little bit more. I looked at the Mini T but never gave it serious consideration really. One of the big reasons I went with Savage is that I have one of their rimfire rifles so I know the quality firsthand.
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I can't do the deep conceal thing. I pretty much just stick to casual concealment. I did OC a couple of times last week. One was a trip to the little market to pick up lunch. Place was packed with other people getting lunch and no one looked at me sideways or really seemed to care. Of course it is still a little rural here. If you are ever up in Corryton around lunch time the place is called House Mountain Market it is on Washington Pike. They have the best cheeseburgers around. And they always get ultra high scores on their inspections too.
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The rifle is a Savage Cub MINI Youth. It is a little heavy for him today, hence the need for the bipod, but it ought to fit for a few years. The gun shoots great. Watch on some of the little kid models, they are not made real well. Some of them have key locks on the stock and and have a cocker that must be pulled to enable the rifle to fire. This one operates exactly like an adult version Savage Rifle. It is also slotted to hold a rimfire scope. I prefer the peep sight. I wish my Savage had one. Once the boy gets the gist of the peeper I will get him a small scope.
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I defer to Tower in this case, I stand corrected. I would like to see a weapon come from deep concealment, be aimed and shot in 1.5 secs though. I re-read Deer's post and I do not doubt a gun can come from a holster and be aimed and shot in 1.5 secs. But the title of the thread is deep concealment so I was thinking on those lines.
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I call on this
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XD look hard at the '58 Remington. the Colt 51 and 61 are fairly similar, the 73 is a shooter too.