JayC

My bet is you have a morals clause in your contract with them...  might not have to wait until the contract is up to leave them...  Also, just making a stink and threatening to leave now will likely get them to change their stance.  

If they run your community...  then find a gun friendly neighbor, go to the next meeting and make a proposal to end your HOA's contract with Ghertner for cause.  Have your neighbor second the motion, and let the community vote on it.   Even if the vote looses, it will send a message.    

Sometime in the next 10 years either CNC or 3D metal printing will get to the point where the cost of the machine is about the same as a single receiver...  then it will be off to the races...   Gun Control will be no more at that point.

I don't think shutting an engine down would save much fuel vs flying the most optimal speed and altitude.  I just check via FSX a 777-200ER could make the flight no problem, to Syria on a full tank of gas.    

They haven't announced a number of facts we need to know to estimate how far the plane could have gone...  First, how much fuel was onboard at take off, The flight to Beijing should have taken ~6 hours, for safety purposes, they would have had another 20-25% fuel onboard as a safety margin.   So this plane could well have made it to Pakistan, or even Yemen, Somalia  or somewhere else in the middle east.   There are a bunch of 7,500+ ft runways in the control of terrorist type elements in Iraq and Syria...  Al Qamishli Airport and Kamishly Airport in Syria would have been in reach depending on the exact fuel on board...  these Airports are under control of terrorist elements fighting in Syria.   Iran, is another option...   Lots of places this airplane could have gone...  hundreds of airports, a bunch of runways that are otherwise shutdown and abandon but still could be used for a landing.

Except with TBI's high false positive rate it's more likely this guy was completely innocent than having an active warrant.   The one good thing about NICS if they mess up you don't end up locked up.    

It is not type accepted for either FRS or GMRS and would be illegal to transmit on those freq's with or without a ham license or any other license.   It also has the ability to transmit on MURS the VHF version of FRS, but it's not type accepted for those freq's either.   But, reality is nobody is getting into trouble for using non-type accepted radios on FRS or MURS... and I haven't heard of anybody getting in trouble for transmitting simplex on GMRS without a licenses, let alone with a non-type accepted radio in over a decade.  

My was more of a point of man power...  We have 15,000 or so police officers in TN, and maybe 1,000 feds...  with no support whatsoever how many arrests can the feds make on their own?   They'd still arrest and charge people, it would just be a lot fewer if they didn't have help from the state.   And Dave, I'm suggesting we not only do this for new laws, but for all the federal laws on the books today involving firearm ownership by law abiding citizens.    

I think it's a very valid option, and the one most likely to keep you alive the longest.  You'd have a 33+% chance of getting away with it...  my guess the chances you'd survive an armed stand off with the police are very low...  sub 10%.   I've said it before, I'm half surprised legislators who voted for this law haven't ended up swing for a lamp post already.  I'd say it's unlikely that legislators here in TN would fair as well if they passed a law outlawing firearms and then had public servants go around talking about door to door confiscation on the local airwaves.   Fact is we only have a very small police force here in TN, somewhere around 15,000 post certified officers for 6.5 million people.  And after the first attack on a legislator my guess is the vast majority of those officers will be guarding said politicians who support gun control.  

You missed one...  Or you can resist with violence before they show up on your doorstep.  Take the fight to the tyrants and their henchmen in their homes and in the streets, like they would do to you.   Not that I'm suggesting anybody do that...  but it's a valid option at that point.    

They're breaking their oath, period.  But, it's not like that isn't uncommon today.  They also break their oath anytime they perform a search based on exigent circumstances, or attempt to prohibit video taping in public..  The list is a mile long... :(   I've called both my state representative and senator about the constitutional carry law...  but, I think we need to focus on pressuring our legislators to stop supporting Beth Harwell as speaker, because she is the road block to getting better firearm laws passed.    

Only way to make this work, is to prohibit government employees of the state or any subdivision of the state from enforcing federal firearm laws a crime.  Then allow citizens to go before a judge to start criminal procedures against any state employee who violates the law.   If the feds want to run over the 2nd amendment, the least we can do stop helping them with our state taxes.   The fact is if we refused to cooperate with the feds they wouldn't be able to come into TN and enforce anything on their own.

Private business should be able to ban firearms on their property...  and we as free citizens can stop giving them money.   That doesn't work with the government.  

Robert,   I think you're over simplifying things again....   Why is it we have to worry about North Korea?  I never hear anybody say they're worried about the Norks firing missiles at say Germany, or South Africa, or Australia?  Why is it they'd be crazy enough to fire nukes at us, and not anybody else in the world?  Because our government keeps meddling in their internal affairs?  They felt that acting like the crazy uncle in the attic with nukes would keep them from being invaded, or their government toppled?   You keep saying people need a government...  and maybe on some level people need some form of government, maybe not...  who knows...  but I know we don't need the government we have, because largely I live my life without any interaction with it.  And the places where I do have to interact with the government, is always a negative experience in my book.   Now I'm guessing most people would think I live a pretty boring life...  so I'm not getting pulled over (not since I was a teenager), we live in a pretty good neighborhood but I can't tell you the last time I saw a metro officer drive through it...  So the vast majority of my interactions with government are me writing them checks, and waiting in inefficient lines at government offices...  dealing with rude people who couldn't get and keep a job in the real world...  and having to deal with crazy government regulations that prohibit me from growing my business....   Most of those issues I've solved at this point... I hire other people to wait in those lines for me, because otherwise my blood pressure would skyrocket.   I'm willing to bet we could cut away 50% of the state budget and you and I would hardly notice it was gone.  The federal government 'shutdown' last year for nearly a month...  well at least 17% of it did...  did anybody here notice?     So how can you say we can't live without a big government controlling everything we do?  Call me an optimist but I think we'd just fine with a government much smaller and much less powerful than the one we have today.    

http://legiscan.com/TN/bill/SB1700/2013   Doesn't go into effect until May 1st.

Tanker,   I just saw this post, sorry for posting so late...  I own a business that does exactly what you're doing but on a larger scale.   First, if you'll PM me your phone number I'll have one of my interns call you back and give you a hand finding better hosting...   it would be good practice for them.   Second, 5 mbit up on Charter isn't enough bandwidth to run the website you're talking about.  And for hosting Charter bandwidth is trash, very bad connectivity to other ISPs around the country compared to colo bandwidth at most locations.  Also, even on business accounts this is likely a TOS violation, unless the TOS for your County is different from here in middle TN.   Third, building a good server with proper backups and running it 24/7 is going to cost you more than finding a good host with better bandwidth.   Fourth, shared hosting is not virtual hosting in anyway shape or form...  and virtual hosting comes in all sorts of shapes, sizes, and price ranges...  Keep in mind virtually all of NetFlix is a bunch of Amazon Virtual Servers.   Finding good hosting for less than $10 a month should be no problem what so ever.  You're going to be hard pressed to do that at home between extra bandwidth costs and power costs...  let alone dealing with failed hard drives and other hardware issues.  Plus it's going to give your users a much better experience.  

No, just asking the city if they can handle 100's of permit requests per week...  and be given right away access...  obviously they pay for each permit just like any other business...  so they wouldn't be getting any special breaks that Comcast and AT&T aren't getting.   And trust me, you'll see the price of your cable and tv service go down from both AT&T and Comcast the day Google decided to build out fiber here in Nashville.   Google fiber will cost 30% less than what I'm paying now, and be 35 times faster...  That should upset you a lot more about how we're being ripped off by Comcast and AT&T for Internet service.    

I'm not an anarchist, so I want to be careful not to speak for Chuck on this...  but, his lack of desire to force a government on anybody else doesn't mean he's suggesting the current government shouldn't follow the Constitution.  You know all of us crazy libertarians we want to take over the world, and force people to do whatever they want to do :)   I think he'd say that the government when following the constitution to the letter is bad enough, and what we have right now is much worse ;)   And further, why should he support the constitution?  Did he sign it?  Did he agree to give his rights away?   How is he any less free than the founding fathers?  They came up with our current form of government...  clearly not placing enough checks and balances in place...  And somehow all of us are doomed to the mess they gave us?   Show me the contract Chuck signed his right away...  or was he just born into it?  And if he was born into it, how does he opt out?  

I grew up outside South Bend, IN and it was a nightmare...  sometimes on Chicago time, sometimes on EST...  The township I went to school changed timezones, so somedays I woke up at 5am to get to school by 7am their time...   I'm all for doing away with DST altogether...  but we should do it with our neighboring states, not by ourselves...        

It's going to make doing business a lot harder for everybody....  We'd be better off moving the entire state into EST/EDT than doing this.

I would argue that the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising is exactly on point...  they started killing Germans first ;)  (By first I mean the Germans on site were just deporting Jews, instead of actively marching them into gas chambers/shooting them).  Also keep in mind they executed Jews police officers, collaborators, etc.   Again, everything the German's did in Warsaw was 'legal' under German law, and carried out by a 'duly elected' government.    

Were his actions murder, or justified homicide I think is what tnguy meant to ask - correct me if I'm wrong tnguy.   Everything the Germans did during WWII was 'legal' and approved by the duly elected government...  so by your line of thinking Jews who fought back in the Warsaw Ghettos were just criminals that needed to be put down?     Anne Frank and her family we're just common criminals who broke the law and had no right to fight back to keep from being deported?   Can we not agree that at some point a government crosses a line, starts violating rights of it's citizens and at that point using force to save yourself, even if that force is offensive in nature is justified, and not murder?   If we can agree on that point, then who gets to decided where that line is?  

I meant they are successful in overthrowing the current government in the vast majority of cases.  And I completely agree in the vast majority of cases the outcome is just as bad if not worse than what they had before.   Which is why I don't advocate for an insurgency...  which is why I tend to make sure people don't have a false sense of bravado...   Our Government and by extension the military won't win an insurgence here at home...  and neither will we the people.  So we should do everything in our power to avoid it...  but the fact remains many politicians don't see it that way... and they're playing with fire...  we're maybe 2 steps away from a civil war, and many in both parties are happy to keep marching along in the same direction hoping we don't step into a pothole and kick off the worse war any of us have ever seen.   Eventually they'll poke the wrong bear... and all of us and for 4 or 5 generations to come will be paying the price.  

Murder and justified homicide are one and the same, just depends on your perspective... doesn't it?   Did Nat Turner murder his master, or was it justified homicide?     For those who don't know who Nat Turner was, he led a very bloody slave rebellion in 1831 in Southampton, VA.   The answer to that question really comes down to this question...  Was Nate Turner a freeman immorally and unlawfully enslaved?  Or were his children, and children's children only granted freedom by the Government in 1865?  If they were granted freedom by the Government, does that mean the Government can take that freedom away?   There are a number of valid arguments...  one when Nat decided to take his freedom back, he was no longer bound by a social contract he wasn't a party to, and therefore reverted to a natural man with no obligation to follow any laws in restoring that freedom...   Or that Nat was immorally and unlawfully enslaved and therefore was justified in using whatever force was needed to escape slavery and wage war on those who would enslave him and his kin.   Finally, some might believe because slavery was constitutional in 1831, Nat was a murderer because he violated the law of VA in the process of trying to escape, and wage war on those who would enslave him.   I'll be honest I fear people who believe the latter to be true...     If a party to a contract willfully violates that contract, then the contract is null and void...  therefore all the laws and agreements formed under that contract would also be null and void...   I'd not advocating that anybody take legislators out and hang them from lamp posts...  only saying I'm half surprised it hasn't happened... and I'm not sure the parties involved might not be morally justified in doing so...  as freemen who have had their rights violated and their freedom threatened.   Nat Turner was no hero...  but I wouldn't call him a murderer either.  

Moped,   I'd suggest you study history a little more closely...  The US Military for all of the great things it's capable of doing...  winning a COIN operation isn't one of them.  Just look at the lack of success we've had in Iraq and Afghanistan in winning against those insurgents.   Who do you think we're fighting over there, big 10,000 person organizations...  or 5-20 member cells operating largely independently of each other with little or no direct command and control?   Our military is nearly paralyzed by blue on green attacks in Afghanistan...  They haven't had to fight a war on American soil for over 150 years...  Our country for all of the good things about it, isn't setup to defend itself from a internal insurgency.  Military supplies aren't well protected, and there ability to resupply and maintain high tech equipment, along with basic needs such as feeding itself are provided largely by the civilian population.  While our military is well prepared for 'force protection' in a combat zone, their not prepared for force protection of installations and their families here on the home front.   The fact remains insurgencies happen because most of the time they are successful.   We don't want to see a civil war kick off in this country...  it will resemble nothing of the war our forefathers fought 150 years ago...  it will look a lot more like the Balkans in the 1990's.  For this reason the government should tread very carefully when violating civil rights...  all it takes is one step too far and enough of the population says the hell with it.