bobsguns

Well, the problem is when calling for help it might be different each time. One time I may only need a wrecker? One time I may only need gas or air for my tire? Or I may need medical help & can't walk out? My thought is I can get someone on the radio who can call one of my cousins or (worst case) just call me a wrecker. I have been told (warned? LOL!) that the radio world is every bit addictive as buying guns. The good news for me is I want it for a specific reason, for a specific purpose. I have a photography addiction as well as my firearm addiction to worry about. I don't have room in my life for another addiction.

I've never worked as a licensed plumber but I know better than to leave the water turned on when removing plumbing fixtures. I'm not a licensed electrician but I know to shut the power off before repairing or replacing electrical items other than appliances. Get my drift there? One thing I have also learned in my life is you never know what someone has done in their past career(s). I once knew a retired Navy SEAL (not fake, he was the real deal) who worked as a maintenance man. He later took a job in FL as a maintenance man at a county jail. Once time they had a mini riot with their prisoners & guess who the sheriff call in to get everybody back to their cells? Yep, the good old maintenance guy. It worked too. I've never been a bank robber but I have a pretty good idea what's not the best way to go about it. Life is full of "armchair QB", regardless of one's job. The mil uses "after action reports" to review what happened & how to do it better next time. Convention centers do the same thing after a convention to see how they could do better on the next group. It's all over the place, in almost every occupation. These cops were no doubt following what & how they were trained. Can't it be said that perhaps that particular strategy might be the wrong way to do something? Are we just supposed to say, "Way to go, guys! Way to shoot a suicidal suspect & help him be on his way!"???? Or are we supposed to ignore everything that happened as if it never did? Please, by all means, tell us what is the proper thing we should be doing, in your opinion?

Many of us have answers for a lot of issues. Doesn't mean we can or will "rush right out to sign up" to be a doctor, lawyer, cop or Judge. I read on another forum a cop describing his training. He said they were taught as soon as they saw or heard the word "gun", they should fire at the suspect regardless of the circumstances. He said he argued with the instructors over this but they refused to budge from it. His comments were in a thread about a Colorado cop shooting/killing another cop in the victim's own home because "he saw a gun". A guy I know who used to be a cop in Colorado went back out there 2 years ago for the funeral of a cop who got killed by another cop while on a burglary call. The shooter & victim were on opposite sides of some sort of fence (privacy?) & the cop shot his fellow LEO in the head, killing him instantly. WTF ever happened to "Stop! Police!" BEFORE firing at an unknown target??? The victim was a groomsman in my buddy's wedding & he was pretty upset about it. I still fail to understand why they didn't remain behind their cars, under some cover? The guy sure as heck wasn't going anywhere. Vehicle cover at least would allow an officer precious extra seconds to go through his shoot/no-shoot checklist. Regardless of what current LEO's think of this incident, it seems the overwhelmingly % of laymen believe too many cops are trigger happy. As a USMC vet, competition shooter, HCP holder who carries every day & a participant in a shooting myself, I have to agree. YMMV.

While I would love to have it, I don't see how that's worth $750ish???? I get the "pre-war" adding value, but unless Daniel Wesson or Horace Smith used this particular one, I don't see the value. How in the world did you stumble onto this thing?

Yeah, I honestly didn't think of that. Some guys think if "tight is good", then "super" tight much be bestest? LOL!

My shocked face:

.38spl wouldn't be too bad, I don't think. Shooting wadcutters would be even milder but not too good for self defense. Were their grip a bit better of a design, I would think the .357 recoil could be tolerated. I shoot my J-frame Smith Airweight in .357 with no issues. Granted, I don't shoot more than a cylinder full at a time either.

My AR pistol with brace came with an ATF letter of approval. They can bugger off or send bachelors, I could care less either way. I don't believe this will go like they want it to, IMO. Anyone want to bet there'll be another Waco during Pedo Joe's tenure? He's going to do something to pump up his numbers, IMO. His approval rating is in the toilet, his bills in Congress are dead in the water & he chits his pants. He'll pick something to make him look leader-worthy, IMO. Pistol braces may be it.

This. But don't use Harbor Freight stuff, get something good & decent if you don't have them already.

I remember the hue & cry when a lot of cowboy matches began to use falling steel plates. The mild loads that they had been using up to then didn't even bounce the plate, much less knock it down. LOL! That's why I don't get how low recoil would crack a stock in a rifle? I would think most of them happened when the rifle fell over or got dropped?

I've shot one of those. The owner loaded .357 rds instead of .38spl, I guess to "help" me. I thought my @#$%^&* hand was going to fall apart. I fired two rds & handed it back to him. Never again.

Who paid for his funeral? That's possibly $10K right there. Who's paying the bills? Did the guy work? I don't know if he did or the widow worked to support the family. If he worked, now what? Does she go on food stamps now? Who buys the kids' clothes now? What widow wouldn't listen if some lawyer told her, "Hey, I can get you some $$$ to help with your bills." She'd be crazy not to at least listen, IMO. Doesn't mean she'll get a penny either. Spend some time in her shoes before you condemn her.

Short of being a shrink, it's damn near impossible for the layman, IMO. I remember the stink raised by the usual suspects when a crazy black female approached a Metro cop with a steak knife in her hand & the cop was sitting in his car seat. The poor cop ended up shooting her because she wouldn't stop when he told her to. I think I remember the jackass DA took it to a grand jury, which correctly failed to indict him. I remember when the State closed the old Central State facility on Murfreesboro Rd in Nashville. There was a rash of incidents when those poor folks got turned out on their own. Seems like the court case that turned them loose stated that just because they were bat#### crazy didn't mean the state could hold them involuntarily. The person had to be a threat to either themselves or the public. The old Deberry Institute on Antioch Pike housed the criminally insane. I think it too got closed down but I don't know for sure. I used to live about a mile from that one. I sound like a broken record here, but some sort of netting device might be the easiest thing to neutralize a crazy. It keeps them from striking out at the cops, they can't swing their arms, etc. I've been told when a crazy person is having an episode, they become crazy strong as well. It's similar to the druggie's version of "excited delirium", which negates the use of tasers. I also note all those jackasses who abuse the cops are NEVER the ones volunteering to go deal with these crazy people either. Wonder why that is?????

Were these smaller than the AMT .45acp? I think those were only 3rd mags?

Possible USP? Certainly H&K w/o doubt. Full size USP 9mm's were 15rd mags, IIRC? They had both finger rest base plates & flat ones as well. I don't think it looks like a VP9 mag but my only ones are the SK & VP9L models. 13rd & 20rd mags, so no 15rd ones.

If they were "acting cautious", why weren't they behind cover, i.e. their cars? Standing right out in the open like that is not MY idea of "cautious". YMMV.

Ehhhh, the bean bags weren't too potent, IMO. The water cannon looked fun though. LOL! Water pressure isn't something one can just blow off. (Pardon my pun) I've fooled around with a 2" hose off of a fire hydrant. I saw it lift a guy right off the ground as he tried to hold onto the squirting end. No one asked me, but I still think a net would work nicely on anyone holding something less than a firearm of some sort.

I think they were talking about before the THP officer got there.

Tom, Sr says no retirement. So who knows? USSC Justice Breyer was p.o.'d when his retirement got leaked out but he still retired. Tom, Jr hasn't refuted it yet, has he?

LOL! No. Brady has taken a huge pay cut to play there so they'd have the $$$ to get better players. Not to mention his wife has more $$$ than he does, which is saying something.

I almost bought one of these when they came out. Beautiful gun & tastefully engraved & no bling, IMO . Wished I'd had bought it then.

Which is why I went to the chief of my local search & rescue crew. Polk Co is nothing but mountains & hollers. LOL! But the chief said his handheld can communicate from anywhere in the county. This is using the relay up on the mountain, of course. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the national parks nor forests allow either cell towers or radio towers on the property? It's for that reason I want the handheld HAM radio in order to call for help. About 80% of the land area of Polk County is now part of the Cherokee National Forest, according to Wikipedia. So that greatly limits the availability of cell phone towers & so forth. I have no clue about the area around Knoxville & so forth. I don't think they're part of the Cherokee Nat Forest there & it's further east from there. I would think there could be cell towers around there pretty easily but I honestly have no idea about that. I do know they can put a cell tower on someone's property w/o the owner's blessing, eminent domain allows that.

Much of that may as well be in chinese for someone like me who doesn't know the meaning of those acronyms.

He's wholly incorrect about that. A phone can not have a PROVIDER (AT&T, Verizon, etc) & still can call 9-1-1. But a phone HAS to have a signal to get out. I experienced this as recently as yesterday, up in back hills of my county. A sat phone is a different matter entirely, as I'm sure you know.

Experts are saying with his winter coat on, they had no where for the prongs to get hold of. Another report says he was walking out into traffic, trying to get run over. So yes, he was looking for the cops to end his misery. Sadly, it went as he wanted it to. I just hope he's at peace somehow now.