I have not read this thread completely so the question could have been answered by now but I have had first hand experience with this. I was convicted of a DUI and two years after my conviction I took my class, turned in my paperwork and received my permit about two weeks later. I learned my lesson the hard way and while I still drink on occasion, I do it far less now and rarely "go out" anymore. I could have lost my job over this but fortunately did not being that I have a company vehicle. Another would definitely kill my chances of keeping my job and I would lose my permit. Im not wanting either to happen. Not to mention that when you do go to a bar, even if you are just there for a few beers, you could run into a drunken idiot who wants to fight and you could end up in trouble with the law right along side him. Not sure what you could be charged with for a bar fight or how this would affect your permit but I dont see chancing it. Ive changed my ways to some degree since I got the DUI and my permit.