papa61

The thought crossed my mind about the G17. That's why I asked. would not be my first choice for CCW.

Ran across this and had to add my two cents. I agree with the sentiment of buying American. In practice, however, I disagree. I buy quality firearms that work and fit my hand. The SCCY sounds great but I have yet to hold one. Kel Tec is great. I have one of the first P32s that came into TN. bought it new and will never sell it. Just a bit heavier unloaded is my baby Browning, NOT US made. I think no one would turn down a good HiPower. Also at one time owned a Taurus 85, Taurus 669, EAA Witness in .45 ACP. My favorite pistol, the overweight darling, is Brazilian made. Bought one new when they first cae to the states because it fits my hand perfectly. Also in it's favor was every review I read on it with one writer stating it outperformed his Colt Officers Model he had nicknamed "money pit" due to the amount spent tuning it. By the way, the SCCY and Kel Tec are out as my primary until they build a good .45.

I've been through several pages in search and found nothing so hope someone can educate me. My sister told me my brother in law is looking for a new pistol and they told him he needed a "17 grip". Has someone come up with some measuring tool for grip and trigger reach that I haven't heard of? Thanks in advance.

actually a very good analogy. I used to agree with it 100%. Now I want an all electric or very efficient hybrid for the weekdays so I can run the fossil fuels on the weekend. No further tangent from the subject. thank you for your attention. by the way, just noticed your location,,,that's hilarious!

RED333 - Something more important to the gun grabbers,,,names, customer list, addresses. the fines will be nothing.

I agreed with you up until the last statement, As a pro car nut, not supporting some emission standards would be calling for the end of the automobile. Restrictions on firearms are unconstitutional. I could write a book on this but I will be brief. The bump stock ban should never have been allowed. To me they are worthless, but, shall not be means shall not be. I am reminded of the prose from the Hitler era. "when they came for me there was no one left to stand"

my OPINION is many of those selling ammo and components are not shooters but amateur retailers taking advantage of the situation much as the guy who bought the huge quantity of hand sanitizer to resell at the beginning of this mess. note that his error was showing his hand with quantity.