papa61

wish I'd know someone with a tag a few years back when one tried to empty my coy pond. moved since so no more pond,

I can understand your stance and support you having that choice. That is why I raised the question although sarcastically. We need this type of discussion to stay ahead of the curve.

Agreed no NORMAL person wants to shoot anyone but I don't want to go as far as any SANE person and give the idiots an out. Not trying to be funny, we have ambulance chasers that will do it. I also agree that at the very least we need basic gun safety in schools. I have told my non gun owning friends they should teach or have their children taught this from an early age. you cannot control what the household where your children's friends live so they will encounter a firearm at some point. Better it be from you or a good trainer. I learned my middle son could climb to the top of my closet. This made me buy a lockable handgun case. Fortunately the only damage was a hole in a piece of furniture and a bump on the forehead. And I can assure you he had been taught, child is rebellious to this day.

Now we get into the heart of keep and bear arms. What would you consider infringement? According to federal case law from the Jim Crow era, you cannot attach a fee or test to any God given Constitutionally guaranteed right. So what is a TICS fee and CCW class and test? Be patient. I believe any person who can legally walk our streets should be able to walk into any store selling firearms and purchase arms, ammo, and holster and walk out strapped. Do we have people that shouldn't walk our streets? Yes of course we do but that is another subject. Remember I said legally walk our streets. Consider the felon who has served his time (not early release/parole/probation) is his life worth less than yours or mine? what about his wife and children who deserve the protection we all hold dear? THIS is my belief on who should be able to keep and arm themselves including in public. I have had training. My father trained me, my grandfather trained me, my uncles and older cousins trained me, and my Uncle Sam trained me. How long has it been since you completed your CCW training? How many new laws regarding carry and use of force have been enacted since? Are you sure?? How many CCW permit holders retained anything from the class longer than to pass an exam? How many instructors don't care if you learn anything as long as they get paid? I'm not picking on anyone but we all know there are those out there who fit these descriptions. For that matter, how many LEO are not well trained yet we think nothing of their ability to carry. Now I am not familiar with the lady shooting a store clerk during a shoplifting and no reference is there so my opinion here may be off. With any right comes responsibility. If one owns a firearm it is one's responsibility to learn and understand the rules and laws regarding the use of that firearm just as it is their responsibility to use the correct ammo, loading procedures, safe handling and on and on. No? Ignorance is no excuse when it comes to law. In addition to what I was taught mentioned earlier, I have also continued to study through magazines, news articles, internet vids, and my fellow gunners. I could be behind on this one but I will stand behind and use this rule for unholstering my firearm; if one is justified in drawing their weapon they are justified to pull the trigger. In other words, keep in in leather until you are justified in USING it. This applies partially to LEO who should not POINT at anyone they are not fully justified in shooting. I give law enforcement a pass on having weapons at ready. another point is one of the cardinal rules of firearms, DO NOT POINT/COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO KILL/DESTROY. If the shoplifter was fleeing and unarmed that is the end of the story or should have been. We should all know the rules of who you can and cannot shoot. Add those two previous together and you have a no shoot no draw. The responsibility falls completely on the armed lady who pulled and fired. Not the city, state, or federal government nor you or I. Y'all be nice now. cut me to shreds in a way that won't stop the discussion. We do not have to agree to be civil.

Just a random devil's advocate thought. If Tennessee passes the "constitutional carry" bill into law and US congress passes national reciprocity will we be able to carry nationwide without a permit?? I'm all atwitter.

I wish you luck. From what my Uncle and Brother in law have said, you should be able to pay two Nashville house payments for Bay Area rent.

two at once has been my high score. I'd really like to get to that one a month recommendation but just can't find it in the budget.

It's a sickness. Just go with the fever. congrats!

if women wore perfume to attract men they would only need three, gasoline, gun oil,,,and vanilla. sorry ladies, not being sexist, just stating fact. In blind tests men preferred vanilla extract over any perfume made. vanilla musk, the wally world stuff, is my kryptonite.

While I agree with making new shooters welcome I see exactly why Fenix stands where they do. Think about this for a minute, not ALL new gun owners or established gun owners are your friend. Take a lesson from Rosie Odonell,,,you know, the anti gun nut who sued because her child's security guard was denied a CCW in NYC.

you can have EVERY flake I have,,,no charge since it's you.

If I had a choice it would be a gas split unit. Seems like gas heat is not as dry.

I understand looking at this as an investment but I'd rather double the money and get a nice vintage Python that has proven to be an earner. But I don't buy firearms or cars for investment, I buy them to use and enjoy. Not knocking those who buy and never shoot. It's your choice and if it makes you happy then by all means enjoy. for my money an 8 round 4 inch Taurus fits the bill better. (my arthritic hand disagrees with the extra two rounds between reloads but hell, I got plenty advil)

it's y'alls fault. Just talking about it and temp started dropping in the house about 9 pm. ran emergency heat untill around 8 this morning

I'm not turning on emergency heat until the temp in the house starts dropping. as long as your unit is maintaining set temp let it be.

welcome to TGO. Hope your relocation goes well. As you can see we even tolerate the dayum yankees.

Not been out of the house, street out front has been ice all day here and just getting more. limbs falling off trees so rather keep the cars from damage. Northern Murfreesboro. Company closed the office for tomorrow already not that it matters to me since I'm still working from the house but our office is in Antioch.

At least the last statement makes sense. We have to act to maintain our rights, they are all under attack. We should not be surprised the Jomalla would campaign on caskets. He has been a two faced liar during the last election, he was a two faced liar in the 1988 election campaign. It's proven he cheated and plagerized his way to the bottom group of college. She has made her way up the ladder on her knees.

I personally don't think they would attempt to confiscate. That would take house to house door kickers. I don't think they are that delusional to believe we the people will allow it. They will just wait, you'll get a traffic ticket and it will escalate into a felony, even your close friends won't help. It will be a slow crawl until We The People are no longer strong enough to resist. Hope you can all follow this abbreviated version.

NO WAY, NOT GONNA HAPPEN, AIN'T DOING IT, WILL NOT

only 2-4" forecast here, but that's enough or the freezing rain would do it. I'm not retired yet but still working from home so I'm good. last freezing rain we had I wound up on my butt on the side of I24 when I stopped to clear ice from the windshield. 3 ft of the shoulder was clear as were the traffic lanes but I just HAD to go to the passenger side. went back home that day.

good holsters are artwork

you had a gun? I've never held one.

I'd expect pricing to hold or increase as the manufacturers have announced increases starting April 1. and they are so far behind any orders they take are for next year. Olins says 3-15% if I remember correctly. wholesalers will increase tp cover losses from unfilled orders.

Just my imagination or is ammo supply coming back? I see a lot of lower prices and what appears to be re-sellers dumping larger lots.