Jamie Jackson

Yep, Murgatroy nailed it...and humorously as well. When Winchester first introduced it, early 90's I believe, a lot of local (New Orleans area) LEO's carried it. I had the opportunity to see several nare-do-wells shot with 9mm and 45 acp Black Talons. The 9mm (or at least the 2-3 I saw) did not expand at all for the most part. The 45's worked great, fully expanded and didn't exit...and with good penetration. But they are just collectables nowadays. There are much improved rounds available. I still have a couple of boxes of 45's stuck back...but simply because I purchased them back then.

Welcome Paramed . Great suggestion by RED. btw...Do you work with ACEMS? There's quite a few "gunguys" EMS...and of course with ORPD... that may want to swap and trade. There's a few of us in the E.R. as well.

I agree Sour Kraut. Not funny and completely unnecessary.

Excellent thread and great pics folks. Our "critters" enrich our lives as well.

I have one and I've run it hard for a number of years now. Obviously, I like it. Here's a link to a thread I posted regarding their customer service. I plan to purchase an Aimpoint Micro T-1 for one of my AK's ...eventually...but I gotta save for that sucker!

Friggin' Awesome. Thanks! I've never seen it before, but there is Truth in that skit.

Welcome aboard John. And Welcome to Tennessee. You're right...It is in fact "Free America"...sometimes we take it for granted. Glad you made it.

LOL. There wasn't an M&P series when I did this, and I have no intentions on selling it. Yep, it's mine alright. It has a bit better than 30,000 rounds through it and shows no sign of slowing down... I'm slowly but surely modifying my 17 in this direction. But I appreciate what you guys are saying. I haven't shot an M&P series, so I have no frame of reference. But I do plan on picking up a 9mm Shield one of these days. They seem to be a great gun for those times when deep concealment is necessary.

I did the same. I much prefer the modification and haven't a clue why Glock felt the need to muck about.

I opened a facebook account under "Prag" and Liked as well...1st time I've ever done that.

I think it primarily depends on who actually unasses their couch and gets out to vote. It's gonna be close. A lot of folks are dependent on keeping the Left in office. Literally dependent as the .gov is their primary source of income. While Romney is to the Right of Obama he's still way to the Left of my liking. A Social Moderate vs Full Blown Communist...what a choice. That being said, I hope it's Romney. But I wouldn't be surprised if it's Obama. In direct response to your poll: Obama.

Outstanding on the webiste. Well Done and Much appreciated. That will be a great help in planning my schedule...and my budget!

LOL Here's a link to their "outdoor lab facilities" : http://orsaonline.org/facilities.asp I'm a member there as well, and definitely prefer weekdays as it's much less crowded. It's a great place to shoot and a real value as well.

Thank you. I'll Google their site. TNdad posted above that ORSA (where I am a member) has been approached before, but without results. I'll contact a few folks there and see what comes from it though. Thanks folks.

That is a Catch 22 Mykltn. I realize that I'm over in Knoxville and so is the guy that taught our class... so it's a bit of a drive, but If you want his contact info just PM me. I don't know if that'll work for you or not. Good Luck Sir.

LOL, That was it Brother. Great group of folks! PM replied to Sir.

I hope it does my Friend, because I've operated off of that assumption for several years now. I carry a Boston Leather 4 ply junior...But it hasn't been challenged. I keep a copy of the statute in my wallet, Just In Case. And I adhere to the "Stupid Rule"...I don't go to stupid places, with stupid people, or do stupid things... I just wish we had better wording...much as to the effect that Mykltn sited for KY, or Florida's "Weapons" permit which I carried for about 10 years prior to my TN permit.

It was for this very reason that 6 friends and I contact a gentleman that does Monadnock certification for a local Security company and contracted him to host a class for us. The cost was about $75.00 each in 2006. I like having the legal option. I agree carrying even a quality collapsible baton can be a bit of PIA at first, but, of course, you get used to it. I also have OC certs and have "ridden" the taser. It's all about options along the use of force continuum. I do wish there was a way to legally carry a sap, not necessarily a blackjack, but a flat sap. I believe Georgia and Florida allow them. In an FUT (Messed Up Tangle) they are an excellent choice. Just my unsolicited and ever devaluing $.02 worth.

Any updates or luck in locating an Appleseed event or place to hold one around the Knoxville area? I'm surprised about the lack of interest at ORSA. I've never attended one would certainly like to. TIA

Brian, That is a very generous offer. You are a gentleman Sir. While I would personally decline, I do plan to load up on some factory ammo I have hanging around and driving over one of these days to check out your facility. We all have guidelines that we have to follow, both in our working relationships and our personal lives. I appreciate the challenges you guys face. Your seems to be a business I'd like to support & I look forward to meeting you and the staff. J.

Brings us back to Rule #1. All Guns are Always loaded. Whenever I pick up, or I'm handed a firearm, the first thing I do (with the gun pointed in a safe direction and my finger off the trigger...#3 & #4) is a chamber check. It should be so ingrained that it is a part of who we are. And I agree. The story as printed leaves a lot to supposition. But the media isn't renowned for getting the facts straight...or all of the facts for that matter.

My heartfelt condolences to the family. As to the media: Guns don't just "go off" by themselves...they require intentional, or unintentional, human intervention... This is an unfortunate tragedy and a reminder that we all need to follow The Four Rules of Gun Safety stressed by Col. Cooper.

My carry preference is appendix for my Glock 19. I've carried in that manner for 8 or 9 years in a Leather Arsenal holster I modified. It's served me well, but it's almost too well worn. I contacted Randy and discussed the issue with him. He suggested the Slimline Tactical. I ordered one from him Tuesday the 11th. I received it today, Saturday the 15th. Randy communicated with me every step of the way. He even included an extra set of belt loops that would allow a different carry height. I am impressed with the holster. It's rides comfortably and securely and the height is perfect for me, allowing a sure fighting grip. It's comfortable while seated, something I've heard numerous folks express concern over. No worries here. I've only worked about 50 presentations dry fire so far...but I've only had it a few hours. I'm looking forward to giving it a workout at the range about midweek...my weekend. I found it to be a great price and Randy to be someone I plan on doing business with again in the future. Thanks for the head's up Dave and Rebel.

That is undoubtedly the most impressive collection I've ever heard of. I agree with the sentiment already expressed by many...Wow! But I'm with Caster on this. I sure would want to shoot them... especially the Hotchkiss...and the Colt Gatling...and the Sharps...and the S&W Volcanic model pistols... OK...all of them.

LOL Spiffy my Friend, You are right...but I restrained my self and paid close attention to John...but it wasn't easy... I appreciate what you're saying Dennis. But I have to think the XS sight will be conquered. They are excellent defensive shooting sights. I'm new to them as well and these old eyes are most definitely aging.... I've seen folks do some impressive long distance shooting using them, 50-100 yards...so I know it's possible. I just have to work out the mechanics for myself. I already knew I needed distance practice, so this is a good motivator for me.