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Defensive Pistol Skills July30-31 Chattanooga
Cruel Hand Luke posted a topic in Training Discussions
July 30-31, 2011 DEFENSIVE PISTOL SKILLS Price $350 Chattanooga, Tennessee Instructor: Randy Harris All training must begin with fundamentals. This comprehensive fundamentals class is designed to prep you for the more advanced courses such as Close Range Gunfighting. Through a carefully designed and detailed curriculum we are able to bring you up to a level of skill in a short two day class that previously would take over 4 or 5 days to achieve at other schools. You will learn a complete presentation of the modern combative technique of the pistol which will put you in good standing for any defensive situations you may encounter in the real world. No experience or prior training is needed to attend this class and it is specially suitable for beginners, or as a tune-up for accomplished shooters. DURATION: 2 days TIME: 9:00AM to 5:00PM CENTRAL PREREQUISITES: NONE AMMUNITION: Approximately 300 rounds (Minimum) YOU NEED TO BRING: Spare clothing appropriate to the weather, lunch/snacks and water (minimum of 1 gallon per person) for the entire day, baseball or other style hat, sun screen, bug repellent, allergy medication (if needed), chair (if you have a problem with sitting on the ground, note taking paper/pen/pencil and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape) REQUIREMENTS: Modern Defensive Pistol, Holster specifically made for that pistol and designed to be worn on the belt at the "strong side", 3 Magazines and One Magazine Pouch, A Belt of the same width as the belt loops for the holster and magazine pouches, Range Safety Gear (Eye protection and ear protection) NOTES: This range is a private location located about 35 minutes from downtown Chattanooga. The range is geographically located where TN, GA and AL all border each other. For more info or to register ..........http://www.suarezinternationalstore.com/july30-312011-defensivepistolskills-chattanoogatn.aspx To see a review from a fellow TGO member...http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tactics-training/51739-did-little-training-suarez-international-weekend.html -
Did more training with Suarez International this weekend.
Cruel Hand Luke replied to mav's topic in Training Discussions
Best place to start is here.....Class Schedule That has the complete schedule and list of classes and class descriptions. A list of just my classes as it currently stands ........ May 28/29 AR/M4 Gunfighting, Chattanooga TN June 4-5 Force On Force Chickamauga, Ga June 18/19 PRIVATE class in Ohio June 25/26 Fighting Rifle Skills, Jacksonville FL July 23/24 Zero to 5 Foot Pistol Gunfighting, Pierpont OH JULY 30/31 Defensive Pistol Skills, Chattanooga TN Aug 13,14 Kalashnikov Rifle Gunfighting Louisville KY Aug 27/28 Rifle Gunfighting, Crestview FL Sep 10/11 Close Range Gunfighting , Jacksonville FL Sept,15,16 Low light gunfighting Chattanooga,Tn (NEW CLASS To BE Announced) Sept 17,18 Vehicle gunfighting Chattanooga , Tn (NEW CLASS To BE Announced) Oct 1,2 Zero to 5 Foot Pistol Gunfighting Atlanta, Ga (To Be Announced) Oct 15,16 Force on Force Columbia, SC Nov and DEC (To be determined) -
Did more training with Suarez International this weekend.
Cruel Hand Luke replied to mav's topic in Training Discussions
Thanks for the review Mav. You did look a lot more comfortable shooting without taking the time to look for a "picture perfect sight picture" this time. There is a balance between hitting and not being hit. When your opponent is 3 to 4 yards away we need to lean more towards the "not getting hit" and less towards bullseye style marksmanship. We are not saying accuracy is not important . On the contrary it is VERY important. The only way to MAKE him stop trying to hurt you is to damage him to the point he cannot continue and that requires hitting him QUICKLY in IMPORTANT places. But if your drawstroke drives the muzzle to where you need it to be do you really NEED to take the extra time to LOOK for the sights inside 5 yards? Is a fist sized 3 or 4 round burst in the center of the chest accurate enough to win a fight? I'd say yes. Especially if it is delivered while you are getting out from in front of him and moving to better position. As a word of clarification....I don't know that I ever actually used the word "titties"....but we do use the pectoral muscle as an index point both in the drawstroke and in retention shooting. And as a matter of fact, some of the malfunctions MAV mentions were where folks did not use their index points properly and let the slide hit them as it cycled causing failures to eject. Great group of students and I hope to see more TGOers in the future! -
The Sling - More Than A Carry Method Since the first musketeer decided to cut a length of leather to carry his “smoke stickâ€, fighting men have added slings to their rifles in one form or another. Some slings are so silly-complicated that they need to ship out with a special DVD. Other slings so simple that they consist of an old bootlace tied by an African bushman to his worn G3. Whether complex or caveman simple, the sling has many uses. The sling exists primarily to carry the weapon in non-contact situations. Look through any news stand gun magazine and you'll invariably see, either in an article or an ad, a photo of some guy “wearing†a long gun. I say "wearing" because he will probably be using some sort of multi-strap like device harnessing the rifle to his body. If the issue is simply to do away with the Fudd rifle rack while standing around looking cool at the range, any sling will do. But if the matter involves moving through rough country, running, or really needing a hand-free situation, it will get considerably more complex…or actually, it will get simpler. If you are in a conflict area, the rifle will be in your hands. Some units have gone as far as to eschew slings altogether to compel their men to keep the weapon in hand at all times. While this is not the best policy, it does kill the lazy sling carry habit. If you need to run without the rifle in your hands, to climb, to secure a prisoner, or anything requiring the use of both hands, you will want the rifle on your back and not hanging in front of you like an additional appendage, banging into everything in sight. Thus your sling, whatever it is, should allow you to sling to the back. The sling must also be simple and stay out of the way. The rifle must be deployable without the need to “strap inâ€, and without a long length of nylon loop floating around to catch on everything. It must allow for a quick and dynamic transition to pistol. With this last requirement, I suggest taking a look at our DVD programs depicting the over the back transition method. There have been far more clever methods devised and in sue for quite a while, but I would submit that a non-clever, but stress-proof method, not requiring perfect timing or extremes in dexterity, that provides for a high probability of success is a far better choice than an alternative that looks cooler. But that discussion is for another time. One other thing the sling can do, in some cases, is as an aid to marksmanship. Sling use goes back to the early part of the 20th century. While my research was not clear on who produced the first shooting sling, many sources point to the Boyt Harness Company and the Rock Island Arsenal. Theirs was the famous 1907 pattern shooting sling often seen on 1903 Springfields and M1 Garands. What these slings did, and still do on the right rifles, is to lock the weapon tightly to the shooter’s upper body, and allow him to relax in position enhancing bone support while reducing muscle tension. The sling is made up in two parts, the longer part in essence creating a loop through which the shooter put his up[per arm, sand cinching down, locked him into the rifle. The rear length of sling was there for carry and irrelevant for any actual shooting. That sling works great, but takes time to loop up. Hardly practical in situations where time is of the essence. Eventually, the leather sling was usurped by the cotton webbing sling, and later nylon sling, probably to reduce weight and cost. These later slings were of one piece and did not have the capability for a front loop. Crafty shooters devised ways to do what they had seen others do with the older 1907 designs and worked up the “hasty sling†in which the shooter simply loops his arm through the sling tightly. Unlike the 1907 system, this later method puts opposing pressures on the handguard, barrel, and action, which unless the rifle has been free floated, will invariably cause the point of impact to shift. The 1907 slings, and its various system copies such as the CW sling, and Ching Sling, do not do this, as they create pressure between your arm and the fore end only (at least if used correctly). So unless your rifle is free floated, stay away from the “hasty sling†method, and opt for the 1907 style slings. The nice part is that the 1907 system can be used on your light assault rifles with a gain in accuracy, without the annoying impact drift caused by improper sling use. Any sling can suffice here as long as it has a forward loop, adjustable for the individual, that can secure the upper arm to the handguard. One argument against sling use is that there is often not enough time in field shooting to “sling upâ€. With the traditional 1907 system that is true, but the newer derivatives are much faster. Nonetheless, if one has a rest to use, such as a vertical surface, it will be much quicker than slinging up, but with a little ingenuity, you can still use the sling in these situations. So grab your assault rifle, and see what you can do with your sling. Make sure the pressure is ONLY between your arm and the handguard, and then get out into the field and see how this simple device can improve your shooting. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. The Suarez Group Is Giving Away $25,000 As a special "thank you" to our customers and students, and as a way to give something back to those who have helped us get where we are, beginning this week, and extending until the July 4th weekend, we are adding a special "thank you gift" to randomly selected outgoing orders at One Source Tactical. That gift will be a 3x5 postcard voucher for either A FREE TWO DAY CLASS OF YOUR CHOICE, or various discounts to training courses ranging from 10% off to 50% off. Overall, over 150 of these gift vouchers will go out totalling over $25K worth of training. Thank You For Your Business
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Tornado in Chattanooga area!
Cruel Hand Luke replied to Cruel Hand Luke's topic in Survival and Preparedness
Thanks. I pray that they are doing well and have all they need. -
Tornado in Chattanooga area!
Cruel Hand Luke replied to Cruel Hand Luke's topic in Survival and Preparedness
The gallon jugs of water is excellent too. Another thing is an AC power inverter and I'm actually going to get one now. Use it to run other stuff from the car...a "portable generator". My list was not really intended to be an "all inclusive" list it was more a "off the top of my head " list of stuff I think is important. Obvious additions are... First Aid Kit (not just bandaids), but capable of handling more serious stuff...chainsaws and other power tools can be dangerous. So can nails in boards. A tarp. Might need it to keep weather out or to cover up stuff, or to make a tent. Tarps are good multi-purpose things to have. Garbage bags. They can be used like little tarps to help cover broken windows. A pot big enough to boil water in. We didn't need to, but some folks did. A camp stove and propane to run it. If your stove is electric then cooking and boiling is more difficult if there is no electricity. If you have a propane operated stove or grill then you are functional to cook and boil. Get an extra tank. They are like $25 and that way you can always have a full one in reserve. -
Close Range Gunfighting April 30-May1 Chattanooga
Cruel Hand Luke replied to Cruel Hand Luke's topic in Training Discussions
Cool. I'll see you there. -
I finally have access to the web after the tornado apocalypse here. I had some damage to the house but nothing major. My neighbor has a 4 foot section of fence harpooned into the side of her house. It looks like it was shot out of a cannon and is just stuck in the side of the house like an arrow stuck in a tree trunk. Trees and power lines are down EVERYWHERE. Travel is slow going but getting better. In fact the CRG class scheduled for this weekend is having to be rescheduled for May21-22 due to trees and powerlines down at the range.That area was hit hard. But we will simply reschedule and the class WILL go on. Eight people were killed just a couple of miles from my neighborhood.An elderly man was found in his chair 50 feet out in his yard where the storm had propelled him from his house....... I am BLESSED to just have the minor property damage that we have. My wife road out the storm in a closet as 100 mph winds hit our neighborhood. I was still at work on Wednesday when the storm hit our neighborhood. It took me an hour and a half to get home...It normally takes 15 minutes. But with EVERY road leading to my place blocked by downed trees and power lines it was slow going. I finally got to within 500 yards of my neighborhood and made the decision to "bug back" to the house on foot. I grabbed my sneaky bag and rifle bag , threw them over my shoulder and started walking past the roadblock when they got the word that they could open the road....so I went back and got in the car and drove the rest of the way home. Yesterday was "clean up day" in the neighborhood. People were clearing out downed trees and shingles and pieces of fences from their yards. There was no power so generators were good things to have to run power tools and to keep freezers from thatwing out. Ice was a commodity impossible to find in stores. If you have a freezer I strongly suggest you have either a generator or a few bags of ice in the freezer to keep things cold longer. We talk about this all the time, but this just reinforces it.... Things you NEED to have on hand. 1. Water. We never lost water, but Ringgold Ga city water has been turned off. You can go without food for a few days. Water is crucial. 2. CASH. If electricity is out stores can't run cards...No cash..no gas. 3. BAtteries. No electricity...no radio,tv,lights,etc. Make sure you have batteries to run your flashlights and radios and lanterns. 4. Gasoline. Never a bad thing to have some extra gas on hand. I think everyone in a 10 mile radius with a chainsaw was running it yesterday. Gas powered generators need gas too. 5. non perishable food. There are still A LOT of folks with no power here and that means stuff in the fridge will be bad. But a simple Coleman stove and some cans of soup will get oyu by for a while. 6. Toilet paper. Make sure you have toilet paper. 7. A car charger for your cell phone!!!!!!! My wife's phone was dead and could not be charged because no electricity . But I have a car charger for mine and that made a big difference being able to still communicate by charging it in the car. 8. A good attitude. We all just got out and did what needed to be done. No sniveling no whining. Yes it sucks that stuff is torn up, but it is not going to move itself off yuor lawn and out of the street. If you are doing something you don't have tome to say "Woe is me". This is not "end of the world" stuff. It is simply a natural disaster just like people have lived through for thousands of years. Things will be back to normal in a few days. But everyone who thought ahead at some point and stashed a few rudimentary supplies will have it easier than those who said "that will never happen here".
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Close Range Gunfighting April 30-May1 Chattanooga
Cruel Hand Luke replied to Cruel Hand Luke's topic in Training Discussions
FOR THOSE JUST SEEING THIS THREAD, THE CLOSE RANGE GUNFIGHTING CLASS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR APRIL30-MAY1 IS BEING RESCHEDULED FOR MAY 21-22! SO IF YOU WERE WANTING TO HIT THIS CLASS BUT THE 4/30-5/1 WEEKEND WAS NOT GOOD FOR YOU, THEN WE WILL BE OFFERING THIS CLASS MAY 21-22!!!!!!!! -
Close Range Gunfighting April 30-May1 Chattanooga
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We will. Just keep an eye on the schedule. Check your PM. -
Close Range Gunfighting April 30-May1 Chattanooga
Cruel Hand Luke replied to Cruel Hand Luke's topic in Training Discussions
I finally have access to the web after the tornado apocalypse here. I had some damage to the house but nothing major. My neighbor has a 4 foot section of fence harpooned into the side of her house. It looks like it was shot out of a cannon and is just stuck in the side of the house like an arrow stuck in a tree trunk. Trees and power lines are down EVERYWHERE. Travel is slow going but getting better. In fact the CRG class scheduled for this weekend is having to be rescheduled for May21-22 due to trees and powerlines down at the range.That area was hit hard. But we will simply reschedule and the class WILL go on. Eight people were killed just a couple of miles from my neighborhood.An elderly man was found in his chair 50 feet out in his yard where the storm had propelled him from his house....... I am BLESSED to just have the minor property damage that we have. My wife road out the storm in a closet as 100 mph winds hit our neighborhood. I was still at work on Wednesday when the storm hit our neighborhood. It took me an hour and a half to get home...It normally takes 15 minutes. But with EVERY road leading to my place blocked by downed trees and power lines it was slow going. I finally got to within 500 yards of my neighborhood and made the decision to "bug back" to the house on foot. I grabbed my sneaky bag and rifle bag , threw them over my shoulder and started walking past the roadblock when they got the word that they could open the road....so I went back and got in the car and drove the rest of the way home. Yesterday was "clean up day" in the neighborhood. People were clearing out downed trees and shingles and pieces of fences from their yards. There was no power so generators were good things to have to run power tools and to keep freezers from thatwing out. Ice was a commodity impossible to find in stores. If you have a freezer I strongly suggest you have either a generator or a few bags of ice in the freezer to keep things cold longer. We talk about this all the time, but this just reinforces it.... Things you NEED to have on hand. 1. Water. We never lost water, but Ringgold Ga city water has been turned off. You can go without food for a few days. Water is crucial. 2. CASH. If electricity is out stores can't run cards...No cash..no gas. 3. BAtteries. No electricity...no radio,tv,lights,etc. Make sure you have batteries to run your flashlights and radios and lanterns. 4. Gasoline. Never a bad thing to have some extra gas on hand. I think everyone in a 10 mile radius with a chainsaw was running it yesterday. Gas powered generators need gas too. 5. non perishable food. There are still A LOT of folks with no power here and that means stuff in the fridge will be bad. But a simple Coleman stove and some cans of soup will get oyu by for a while. 6. Toilet paper. Make sure you have toilet paper. 7. A car charger for your cell phone!!!!!!! My wife's phone was dead and could not be charged because no electricity . But I have a car charger for mine and that made a big difference being able to still communicate by charging it in the car. 8. A good attitude. We all just got out and did what needed to be done. No sniveling no whining. Yes it sucks that stuff is torn up, but it is not going to move itself off yuor lawn and out of the street. If you are doing something you don't have tome to say "Woe is me". This is not "end of the world" stuff. It is simply a natural disaster just like people have lived through for thousands of years. Things will be back to normal in a few days. But everyone who thought ahead at some point and stashed a few rudimentary supplies will have it easier than those who said "that will never happen here". -
Close Range Gunfighting April 30-May1 Chattanooga
Cruel Hand Luke replied to Cruel Hand Luke's topic in Training Discussions
There are still some spots available in this class! Weather is supposed to be 70s and sunny! -
For those who have been waiting for a FOF class in the southeast, here it is. June 4 -5 I'll be offering FOF Gunfighting in Chickamauga Ga, just south of Chattanooga, Tennessee. June 4-5, 2011 FORCE ON FORCE GUNFIGHTING Chickamauga, GA Instructor: Randy Harris Price:$400 SPECIAL PRICE $350!!! Ever wonder what you'd do if a psycho with a knife charged at you? Or how you'd really handle a multiple adversary situation? FIND OUT FOR CERTAIN IN OUR INTERACTIVEGUNFIGHTING TRAINING!! Force on Force is the future of personal combat training. This course is Pure CQB Gunfighting Skills, and will connect what you do on the range with what you must do on the street to win a fight. Typical marksmanship-based gun training leaves many questions unanswered. There is a great deal that you still don't know about street combat if all you've done is shoot paper targets on a shooting range. Even the many "shoothouse" exercises at many gun schools are still woefully inadequate in preparing you for a street confrontation. But in this class, the training is pure street reality featuring high intensity, short duration combat at close range against live human beings with modern force on force technology. It is specifically designed for the private citizen and focuses on civilian street situations. Learn to defend against a single adversary bent on cutting you with a training knife, as well as against multiple adversaries suddenly drawing guns and firing at you. Learn what it takes to overcome home invaders, takeover robbers, hostage takers and active shooters! In today's environment, everyone has a need to know. The training is open to ALL civilian students AT ANY SKILL LEVEL, and is the sort of class you can attend over and over again to maintain your edge!! Fight-focused NOT Gun-focused! DURATION: 2 days TIME: 9:00AM to 5:00PM (EASTERN) PREREQUISITES: NONE AMMUNITION: Approximately 600 (Minimum) good quality plastic pellets : NO STEEL PELLETS YOU NEED TO BRING: Spare clothing appropriate to the weather, lunch/snacks and water (minimum of 1 gallon per person) for the entire day, baseball or other style hat, sun screen, bug repellent, allergy medication (if needed), chair (if you have a problem with sitting on the ground, note taking paper/pen/pencil and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape) REQUIREMENTS: You MUST have a gas-operated airsoft pistol for this class. Electric or spring-operated guns are not suitable. A paintball mask/helmet, hooded sweatshirt and gloves are necessary. NOTE: Bring an adequate supply of green gas or propane and silicon lubricant to charge up the pistols. An extra magazine is important in case there is a problem with the primary. LOCATION: Highpoint Airsoft Facility 6277 N. Marble Top Road, Chickamauga, GA, 30707 Phone - 423-314-2548 To enroll...http://www.suarezinternationalstore....kamaugaga.aspx
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Close Range Gunfighting April 30-May1 Chattanooga
Cruel Hand Luke replied to Cruel Hand Luke's topic in Training Discussions
Two weeks to go and we still have some spots available. This class is what ties the PROACTIVE and REACTIVE shooting together. You won't always have prior warning and be able to get the gun in hand before the fight starts. This class focuses on reacting to sudden unexpected assault and getting out of the way and hitting the other guy bin vital areas before he can hit you. Not a target shooting class...but that does not mean we cannot make EXCELLENT fight stopping hits while moving off the X. How? Come train with us and see. -
Close Range Gunfighting April 30-May1 Chattanooga
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This one is just around the corner. I'm hoping to see a bunch of TGOers in the class. Hope to see you there! -
May 28-29, 2011 AR15/M4 RIFLE GUNFIGHTING Chattanooga, Tennessee Instructor: Randy Harris Are you sick and tired of being looked down upon because you are not a police officer or military man when enrolling in AR-15 specific courses? Do you wonder if there is more to the study of the gunfight than emulating competition drills, or SWAT tactics that you will never use? Well have we got a class for you!!! Built along the same lines and focus as our Kalashnikov and High Risk Operator classes, we will show you how to FIGHT WITH your rifle like an insurgent using time proven hit and run methodologies that prize mobility and maneuver over technical knowledge, and winning the gunfight over intrinsic accuracy concerns. In Suarez International fashion, sacred cows end up as dinner while we methodically address history, operation and the tricks and tips of professional operators who have used and continue to use this venerable, most American of Assault Rifles. Expect to be surprised to find out just how reliable the AR can be. By the end of the class you will have a skillset in your possession that few paid pros ever get. You will never look at your rifle the same way again!!! NORMALLY $400 SPRING ENROLLMENT SPECIAL ONLY $300.00 DURATION: 2 Days TIME: 9:00AM to 5:00PM (Central Time-Range is on central time just west of Chattanooga) PREREQUISITES: NONE AMMUNITION: Appx 500 rounds (Minimum) and 50 rounds of pistol ammunition YOU NEED TO BRING: Spare clothing appropriate to the weather, lunch/snacks and water (minimum of 1 gallon per person) for the entire day, baseball or other style hat, sun screen, bug repellent, allergy medication (if needed), chair (if you have a problem with sitting on the ground, note taking paper/pen/pencil and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape) REQUIREMENTS: AR-15/M-4 type rifle, (3) magazines and any ancillary rifle gear. Pistol, Holster, Pistol Magazines. Eye and Ear Protection. NOTE: Chest Rig/Tactical Vests are not allowed with CCW Holsters. If you wish to use a Chest Rig or a Tactical Vest, use a vest mounted holster or a thigh holster. More info or to enroll for this exceptional deal.....May 28-29, 2011 - AR15/M4 Gunfighting - Chattanooga, TN ON SITE CAMPING IS AVAILABLE at the range to save even more!
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Close Range Gunfighting April 30-May1 Chattanooga
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Just a reminder for those in the NE Alabama, NW Georgia, Se Tennessee area this class is getting closer. For those not familiar with it, Close Range Gunfighting looks at the likely problem encountered in a criminal assault. A REACTIVE response to a sudden assault at close range. No one hauls out a bullhorn and tells you from across the parking lot that they are coming to rob you. They get as close as they can before they show their hand. And while 90% of police killed in the line of duty are killed inside 7 yards 90% of that 90% happen within 3 yards. We cover in depth how to spot an assault before it happens and how to deal with unknown people who approach you on the street...you cannot just pull a gun on everyone who acts a little shady.We give you a structure to deal with these conversation distance problems. And if it turns into a fight you will be in better position to respond. If you try to stand still and outdraw someone who is already halfway through his drawstroke you are going to get shot. So we put a premium on getting out of the way of his initial attack and getting fast fight stopping hits on him . BUt not all movement is beneficial. We teach you WHERE to move to make it less likely for him to hit you. At this distance though,we do not have much time to get hits on him so we use what I refer to as Alternative Indexing Methods to make hits instead of taking the time to look for a "picture perfect" sight picture. Combining the movement with the alternative indexing makes you less likely to get hit and more likely to hit them QUICKLY and stop them from being able to return fire. We also delve into contact distance shooting which does not work in the real world against uncooperative targets exactly like it does when you just shoot a paper target.Sometimes we will need to start solving the problem with our hands before we can make an opening to be able to solve it with a weapon. We cover reloads and malfunction clearance with a nondiagnostic malfunction clearance process that reduces stoppages without having to take time to figure out what kind of stoppage it is. This is somewhat important if you are in a close range pistol fight and the adversary is less than 5 yards away. We also cover shooting from cover for those instances when you saw the fight developing and were able to get to cover before it got ugly. The use of cover you see at an IPSC or IDPA match is NOT what you want to use when bullets are really comng back at you. We also cover dealing with multiple adversaries. Standing still and outdrawing them is like trying to outdraw a firing squad. We use methods that make it more difficult for them to hit you and easier for you to hit them. Just backing away and shooting like in an IDPA match just gets you shot a few steps farther back than you'd have been shot if you had just stood still. Again not all movement is beneficial. We also cover the After Action Assessment with a complete 360 degree scan after the initial engagement. If you stand there gawking at the guy you just shot you won't pick up on his accomplice until he shoots you. And standing still and just peeking over your shoulder works great on the range when you already KNOW there is no one coming up behind you...not so much on the street when there is a near50% chance that there IS someone else..... Come on out and learn some life saving skills without having to travel across the country. Also for those wanting to save some expense on site camping is available. Hope to see you there! -
Wow.....just...wow.. I have taken just about every class Tom offers including both the Instructor and Advanced Instructor classes.And I have been a presenter at the Rangemaster Tactical Conference. And I don't live anywhere near Memphis..... I have seen that lecture on student involved shootings both at NTI (when he first presented it ) and again in a couple of classes and training seminars. In fact I use some points from it in my own class lectures. What do you get from a DVD? For $14.95 you will get some perspective into what civilian shootings are REALLY like and it may actually help you to make your practice sessions more realistic. Not knowing WHO Tom is speaks more to the poster's lack of perspective than to Tom's " lack of noteriety".... People in the know ...know.
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And a little more info about the Extreme CRG class............ What is so EXTREME about Extreme Close Range Gunfighting? Suarez International Tier One Instructor -Randy Harris One of the questions I get from students is what is so "Extreme" about the Extreme Close Range Gunfighting class. Well the answer is everything. This class is not only a shooting class, but it is also a force on force class,a point shooting class, a class with an element of hand to hand, weapon retention, shooting on the move in all directions, and finishes up with a vehicle gunfighting component. Compared to regular classes it is pretty extreme. In the Close Range Gunfighting class we introduce the concept of "getting off the X" or moving out from in front of your adversary so it is much harder for him to hit you. In CRG we do the laterally to the 3 o'clock or 9 o'clock directions. In ECRG we look more at the complete clock matrix and the issues that arise with body mechanics in moving to every direction on the clock. There is no ONE way to shoot. Your body only turns and bends in certain ways and we have to make concessions to that and change our shooting platform accordingly...if we expect to hit what we are aiming at. We have done an immense amount of studying how the body moves and we show you the most natural ways of blending several different shooting forms to work. Everything has a place. The key is to recognize that particular place and use that method in its appropriate place. Not to force it to work in every place. The shooting package in ECRG does just that. In ECRG we see that trying to maintain a picture perfect sight picture while rapidly getting out from in front of your adversary is not always possible. As such we delve into alternative indexing methods that make it easier for us to make fight stopping hits from less than ideal positions while we move in all directions. This is not your grandfather's stand and deliver shooting method. We can only do so much on a shooting range against inanimate targets. Unless you are just practicing to shoot unarmed deaf and blind people you need to work against a live adversary. Cardboard targets do not move or fight back. Shooting targets is like a boxer working a heavy bag. While it helps him develop powerful punches it does nothing to help his timing against a live opponent. The FOF package in ECRG gives you an opportunity to take the skills you worked in the shooting package and work that against a living , breathing, thinking opponent who moves and tries his best to stab or shoot you. Everything works when the bad guys don't move or fight back....come see what works when the bad guy starts the fight. If the bad guy does his job well then we may find ourselves in a confined space when he launches his attack. We also work on confined space shooting and getting off the X when there just really isn't much room to move. Sometimes in fights guns malfunction . We look at not only HOW to clear a malfunction without taking time to diagnose it, but WHEN to even attempt to clear the malfunction or when to transition to a secondary weapon or go hands on. Fights up close may not afford the time to clear a malfunction and sometimes it will be faster to just transition to a secondary pistol or even a blade or an impact weapon. And sometimes going hands on is the answer. We will work through them all. If we shoot someone we need to check our 6 o'clock to make sure that they do not have friends or accomplices coming up behind us to either shoot us or stab us or even try to disarm us. We work our 360 degree after action assessment and add to that our "defending SUL" weapon retention techniques to counter a gun grab attempt that may come while we are checking to make sure our 6 o'clock is clear. If you carry a gun you need to know how to defend it from a gun grab attempt. Going hand in hand with this is how to disarm someone else if they get your gun away from you. We look at dealing with multiple adversaries. According to statistics about half of assaults are commited by more than one assailant. If all you learn to do is stand still and shoot then working against multiple assailants is going to be a bad place to be. But we teach methods to put you in better position and leaving them having to shoot each other to get to you. There is an extremely high chance that if you are the victim of a close range assault that you will end up shooting with one hand . Maybe because you were using the other hand to protect yourself you did not have both hands available to shoot. You may have been injured in one hand or arm. You may be protecting a loved one or any other number of reasons. We work on improving your one handed shooting and will even look at reloading and clearing malfunctions one handed. If it can happen when you have two hands...it can happen with just one.It is best not to see it for the first time when it is for real. Most classes are only done shooting from some sort of standing postion. In Extreme Close Range Gunfighting we look at shooting from seated postions in all directions of the compass and getting off the x from a seated position. We spend a fair amount of our lives seated. It is good to have practiced reacting to an attack from that position. This seated position shooting then gives way to a fighting in and around vehicles package that will open your eyes to many things you may have never even considered before. We will look at drawing and engaging targets from inside your vehicle and when it is appropriate to bail out and run for cover. Then we work on both. This class is one of the few classes you can attend with live fire counter carjacking work from your own vehicle in all the directions of the clock. Unless you are in the Secret Service, you probably have not shot like this before. So there it is. Why is Extreme Close Range Gunfighting so extreme? Because it is the most complete and wide ranging skill set class that Suarez International offers. It gives you an EXTREMELY full set of skillsets that all work together to keep you and your loved ones safe. It may be the best kept secret in civilian training. Where else can you get ALL of these skills all in one weekend? The fact that you even CAN get them all in one weekend is EXTREMELY cool.
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March 26-27, 2011 CLOSE RANGE GUNFIGHTING Louisville, Kentucky Instructor: Randy Harris PRICE $400 This is our flagship course and goes as far as you can safely go on a square range with live-fire pistols. The dynamic curriculum surpasses the traditional handgun methods commonly taught in most institutions and focuses of the use of the pistol in aggressive close range applications likely in individual civilian street encounters. The class begins with a tune-up of the fundamentals, then we progress quickly to new skills such as Proactive and Reactive Manipulations, Shooting While Moving Off The X, Reality-Based Multiple Hostiles Engagement, 360 degree CQB Movement, Danger-Close Fighting, Bilateral Shooting, 360 degree After Action Assessment Methods, and Integrating the Flashlight and Other Tools into the Firing Platform. This is the life-saving material that is often ignored in many other programs. In two days, you will receive more information than most armed professionals ever get! We must point out that THIS COURSE IS NOT FOR THE NOVICE SHOOTER. If you have not received basic instruction, or have a question about your skill level, please call us first. DURATION: 2 Days TIME: 9:00am to 5:00pm (Eastern) PREREQUISITES: NONE AMMUNITION: Approximately 500 Rounds (Minimum) YOU NEED TO BRING: Spare clothing appropriate to the weather, lunch/snacks and water (minimum of 1 gallon per person) for the entire day, baseball or other style hat, sun screen, bug repellent, allergy medication (if needed), chair (if you have a problem with sitting on the ground, note taking paper/pen/pencil and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape) REQUIREMENTS: Modern Defensive Pistol, holster specifically made for that pistol and designed to be worn on the belt, 3 Magazines and Magazine Pouch, A Belt of the same width as the belt loops for the holster and magazine pouches, Range Safety Gear (Eye protection, and ear protection) LOCATION: Knob Creek Range 690 Ritchey Lane, West Point, KY, 40177 Phone - 502-819-8515 To register or for nmore Info ......http://www.suarezinternationalstore.com/march26-272011-closerangegunfighting-louisvilleky.aspx And in APRIL................. April 16-17, 2011 EXTREME CLOSE RANGE GUNFIGHTING Louisville, Kentucky Instructor: Randy Harris Price $400 Our Close Range Gunfighting Course has achieved international recognition as the highest level training available anywhere with a handgun. There is much, however, that cannot be studied in depth in that class purely from a lack of time. In Extreme Close Range Gunfighting we've gone even further. We cover many of the topics only hinted at in CRG, such as Shooting from seated positions (ie., in a vehicle), fighting when injured, and a dynamic module of instruction dealing with the ultra-close 0-6' distance. We also introduce fundamental gun vs. knife concepts. Most importantly, in this course we introduce the student to the dynamic and chaotic world of Force-on-force Interactive Training. Through a series of carefully executed and designed drills, the student will get the opportunity to apply what they've learned against live role-players. This is as close as you can get to a real gunfight without risking your life. Although there are no official pre-requisites for this course, we must point out that THIS COURSE IS DEFINITELY NOT FOR BEGINNERS - All attendees should have a thorough understanding of the defensive pistol fundamentals. If in doubt, please call us first. Come join us in this exciting and cutting edge training event. DURATION: 2 days TIME: 9:00AM to 5:00PM EASTERN PREREQUISITES: NONE AMMUNITION: Approximately 350-400 rounds (Minimum) Approximately 600 (Minimum) good quality plastic pellets : NO STEEL PELLETS YOU NEED TO BRING: Spare clothing appropriate to the weather, lunch/snacks and water (minimum of 1 gallon per person) for the entire day, baseball or other style hat, sun screen, bug repellent, allergy medication (if needed), chair (if you have a problem with sitting on the ground, note taking paper/pen/pencil and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape) REQUIREMENTS: Pistol, carry holster, 3 magazines and pouch and standard range safety gear. You MUST have a gas-operated airsoft pistol for this class. Electric or spring-operated guns are not suitable. A paintball mask/helmet, hooded sweatshirt and gloves are necessary. NOTE: Bring an adequate supply of green gas or propane and silicon lubricant to charge up the pistols. An extra magazine is important in case there is a problem with the primary. LOCATION: Knob Creek Range 690 Ritchey Lane, West Point, KY, 40177 Phone - 502-819-8515 For more info or to register.....http://www.suarezinternationalstore.com/april16-172011-extremecloserangegunfighting-louisvilleky.aspx And if you sign up for both there is a discount........http://www.suarezinternationalstore.com/valueclass-march26-272011andapril16-172011-bothclassesinlouisvilleky.aspx