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COMBAT RIFLE MARKSMANSHIP May 31, 2015 Chattanooga, Tennessee Price $200 Instructor: Randy Harris In this class you will learn how to fire an accurate shot with your semi auto military assault rifle. All types and calibers are welcome (AR-15, AK-47s, UZI, HK, etc.). You will learn all the basics of riflery from zeroing, the essential elements of insuring an accurate shot, as well as using ground and cover to enhance your effect downrange. This course is perfect for the new rifle owner, or as a tune up for an experienced rifleman. DURATION: 1 day TIME: 9:00AM to 5:00PM (CENTRAL) AMMUNITION: Approximately 150 rounds (Minimum) YOU NEED TO BRING: Spare clothing appropriate to the weather, lunch/snacks and water (minimum of 1 gallon per person) for the entire day, baseball or other style hat, sun screen, bug repellent, allergy medication (if needed), chair (if you have a problem with sitting on the ground, note taking paper/pen/pencil and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape) REQUIREMENTS: Rifle, sling, at least 2 magazines if using a semi-automatic, manner to carry extra ammo, pistol, holster and range safety gear For more info and to register.....http://www.suarezinternationalstore....anooga-tn.aspx
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DEFENSIVE SHOTGUN April 26, 2015 Chattanooga, Tennessee Price $200 Instructor: Randy Harris The shotgun is the top choice among Americans for limited role home defense. In its niche it is a devastating weapon. This one day class will teach you everything you need to know to employ this iconic American fighting tool to its best utility. DURATION: 1 Days TIME: 9:00am to 5:00pm (CENTRAL) AMMUNITION: Approximately 100 rounds of Birdshot, 50 rounds of Buckshot, 15 Slugs and 50 rounds of pistol ammunition. YOU NEED TO BRING: Clothing appropriate to the weather. Lunch, snacks and water (minimum of 1 gallon per person) for the entire day. Baseball or other style hat, sunscreen, bug repellent, allergy medication (if needed), folding chair, note taking paper/pen/pencil and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape). REQUIREMENTS: Shotgun (any caliber pump or semi-auto). All shotguns must be equipped with a sling and a stock. Pistol with at least two magazines, suitable belt, holster, and magazine pouches. A method of carrying extra shotgun ammo (for example: shoulder bag, ammo pouches, side saddle, or butt cuff). Ear & eye protection. For more info and to register.....................http://www.suarezinternationalstore....anooga-tn.aspx
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DEFENSIVE PISTOL MARKSMANSHIP March 29, 2015 Chattanooga, Tennessee Price $200 Instructor: Randy Harris In this class you will learn how to fire an accurate shot with your carry handgun, from concealment, in situations replicating what may be necessary to prevail in a proactive street gunfight. This course is perfect for the novice or new CCW licensee (although no licenses are necessary to attend). DURATION: 1 day TIME: 9:00AM to 5:00PM (CENTRAL) AMMUNITION: Approximately 150 rounds (Minimum) YOU NEED TO BRING: Spare clothing appropriate to the weather, lunch/snacks and water (minimum of 1 gallon per person) for the entire day, baseball or other style hat, sun screen, bug repellent, allergy medication (if needed), chair (if you have a problem with sitting on the ground, note taking paper/pen/pencil and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape) REQUIREMENTS: Modern Defensive Pistol, Holster specifically made for that pistol and designed to be worn on the belt at the "strong side", 3 Magazines and One Magazine Pouch, A Belt of the same width as the belt loops for the holster and magazine pouches, Range Safety Gear (Eye protection and ear protection) For more info and to register for this class....http://www.suarezinternationalstore....anooga-tn.aspx
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Just a heads up on an excellent training opportunity in middle Tennessee in May. My friend Tom Givens will be offering a 1 day Intensive Pistol Skills class in the Nashville/ Franklin area on May 9 !!!! Intensive Pistol Skills One Day Training Primary Instructor – Tom Givens Place: Nashville/Franklin,TN, area Time: 9am – 6pm Date: May 9, 2015 Saturday Rounds: 400-500 Price: $225.00 Intensive Pistol Skills is an extensive work-out of the essential skills involved in self-defense with a handgun. Topics covered include presentation from the concealed carry holster; accurate shooting at high speed; fast, reliable reloading techniques; one handed shooting; malfunction remedies; and much more. Students will fire approximately 400-500 rounds. Directions to the range, detailed equipment list and other info will be sent to registered students prior to class date. To register: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/intensive-pistol-skills-franklin-tn-tickets-15014727454
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March 14 Suarez Training Group
Cruel Hand Luke replied to Cruel Hand Luke's topic in Training Discussions
Reminder! This one s coming up in a couple of weeks! -
April 19 Knoxville Suarez Training Group
Cruel Hand Luke replied to Cruel Hand Luke's topic in Training Discussions
Yes, just shoot me a PM and we'll put you on the list. Then just pay at class. -
Pistol Gunfighting Feb28-March1 Chattanooga area
Cruel Hand Luke replied to Cruel Hand Luke's topic in Training Discussions
For those attending we will be moving the starting time of class back one hour to 10AM CENTRAL time due to the recent weather issues. That will give everyone a little extra time to get there in case there are any issues with the roads. We actually did this same class 4 years ago in 8 inches of snow and it went well . Hopefully this one will even be a bit less snowy by the time Saturday rolls around. -
Pistol Gunfighting Feb28-March1 Chattanooga area
Cruel Hand Luke replied to Cruel Hand Luke's topic in Training Discussions
One week to go and we still have a few spots left if anyone is wanting to get in on this one. -
Announcing the 1st meeting of the TN/GA/AL Suarez Int Training Group for 2015! It will be Saturday March 14 and will focus on 1 handed shooting. Bring a spare sock with you. We will look at all the possibilities and reasons you would need to fire 1 handed, both up close and farther away, how to clear malfunctions, reload and stay in the fight when only 1 hand is functional, and we will shoot a couple of challenging drills... one hand only...... In dashboard cam videos, surveillance video , FOF drills and scenarios worldwide we see A LOT of one handed shooting. When the danger is close and the time is short we see people naturally go to one handed shooting. We also see a HIGH number of wounds sustained to the hands and arms. So being able to shoot and manipulate 1 handed is a critical skill for the well rounded gun carrier. So come on out and work this often overlooked but extremely important skill set. Instructor : Randy Harris Subject: One Handed Shooting and Manipulations Date : March 14 Time: 9AM-3PM CENTRAL TIME Location: The usual place- Phillips/Edwards Farm 763 County Rd 332 Pisgah Al Price : $60 PAY BY CASH OR CHECK AT CLASS. What you need to bring: Pistol (revolvers are welcome too), pistol magazines (or speedloaders if you plan to party like it is 1899) and at least 150 rounds of ammo..... AND a SPARE SOCK.
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Pistol Gunfighting Feb28-March1 Chattanooga area
Cruel Hand Luke replied to Cruel Hand Luke's topic in Training Discussions
Two weeks to go on this one!!! There are still some spots available and time to get signed up. Hope to see you there! -
Adv Rifle Gunfighting Dayton TN March 7-8
Cruel Hand Luke replied to Cruel Hand Luke's topic in Training Discussions
Just a quick reminder this one is right around the corner! -
Suarez International CLOSE RANGE GUNFIGHTING June 27-28, 2015 Lewisburg, Tennessee Price $350 Instructor: Randy Harris This is our flagship course and goes as far as you can safely go on a square range with live-fire pistols. The dynamic curriculum surpasses the traditional handgun methods commonly taught in most institutions and focuses of the use of the pistol in aggressive close range applications likely in individual civilian street encounters. The class begins with a tune-up of the fundamentals, then we progress quickly to new skills such as Proactive and Reactive Manipulations, Shooting While Moving Off The X, Reality-Based Multiple Hostiles Engagement, 360 degree CQB Movement, Danger-Close Fighting, Bilateral Shooting, 360 degree After Action Assessment Methods, and Integrating the Flashlight and Other Tools into the Firing Platform. This is the life-saving material that is often ignored in many other programs. In two days, you will receive more information than most armed professionals ever get! We must point out that THIS COURSE IS NOT FOR THE NOVICE SHOOTER. If you have not received basic instruction, or have a question about your skill level, please call us first. DURATION: 2 days TIME: 9:00AM to 5:00PM AMMUNITION: Approximately 500 rounds (Minimum) YOU NEED TO BRING: Spare clothing appropriate to the weather. Lunch, snacks and water (minimum of 1 gallon per person) for the entire day. Baseball or other style hat, sun screen, bug repellent, allergy medication (if needed), chair (if you have a problem with sitting on the ground, note taking paper/pen/pencil and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape). REQUIREMENTS: Modern defensive pistol and a holster specifically made for that pistol and designed to be worn on the belt. Three (3) magazines and magazine pouch, a belt of the same width as the belt loops for the holster and magazine pouches, and range safety gear (eye protection, and ear protection). NOTES: Range information, directions, local hotels, and contact information will be Emailed after purchase, contact the office if you haven't received information for your class. Fro more info and to register.......http://www.suarezinternationalstore.com/150627-close-range-gunfighting-lewisburg-tn.aspx#.VNtlTfnF8as
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Pistol Gunfighting Feb28-March1 Chattanooga area
Cruel Hand Luke replied to Cruel Hand Luke's topic in Training Discussions
This one is just a couple of weeks away....still time to get signed up !!! -
Handgun Permits - County by County
Cruel Hand Luke replied to waynesan's topic in Handgun Carry and Self Defense
Awesome. And there are some people who DO but they are a minority of HCP holders...not the majority. -
Handgun Permits - County by County
Cruel Hand Luke replied to waynesan's topic in Handgun Carry and Self Defense
I'm not surprised at all. I think an even more interesting number would be " how many of those people with HCP actually carry on a regular basis?" Those numbers would be depressingly low..... I'm going to guess that is 10% or less of the total number of permit holders that carry regularly.So it would be less than 10% of those "less than 20%" with a permit. Most people out in the world, even in TN, and even in the "gun community", really don't like carrying a gun around or making the lifestyle adjustments and sacrifices to be constantly armed. It is cumbersome to them, and deep down they really do not think anything will ever actually happen to them and that breeds complacency. So what do they do? They get a permit, carry for 2 weeks, decide it is too much trouble and then after that they just take a gun with them when they go on a trip, or if they have to go to a "bad part of town" but other than that it sits in the safe or the sock drawer at home. Even at my day job working for a firearms distributor where it is perfectly acceptable to carry, only about 30% of us actually carry at work.....so in a job filled with HARD CORE gun enthusiasts only 20% of THOSE people actually carry a gun on them regularly. Take a look at people packing up and and leaving at the end of IDPA matches...I'd guess that 25-50% of those people (who by definition are HARD CORE gun enthusiasts) who are competing in a sport that is for practicing CONCEALED CARRY SKILLS do not actually carry on a regular basis. That is just reality. And I base that on watching people stow their guns in their trunk and take all their gear off before they leave the match. I have actually had a HIGH level shooter at a regional match see me replace my match gun (glock 34 with fiber optic front sight) with my carry gun (glock 34 with tritium front sight) while getting ready to leave look at me curiously and comment "You're one of those people that really carry a gun on them? " while he got in his truck to leave...... with no gun on....... Just sayin'...it does not surprise me at all. -
Always carry with one in the pipe.
Cruel Hand Luke replied to Steelharp's topic in Handgun Carry and Self Defense
This whole "empty chamber carry" thing usually done by someone who is more afraid of the gun they carry than they are of the bad guys. And that is to some degree the fault of all the "you are more likely to be killed by a gun if you have one in the home " crowd. The average person (especially those in urban areas) knows little about guns other than what they see and hear on TV. So people who know LITTLE about guns and even LESS about how fast REAL street crime happens decide they want to get a HCP but they are so afraid that the gun might "go off" they carry with an empty chamber. My question is do they only load 5 rounds in their six shot double action revolver so they have to pull the trigger TWICE to get it to go off? It is NOT logical. Ask any of the empty chamber carriers WHY they do it and the answer is EMOTIONAL....NOT logical. I've been working a full time job in the shooting industry for over 15 years and been teaching HCP classes the same amount of time and working as a travelling instructor, attending and presenting at some of the biggest conferences in the country for the last 8 years....and in ALL that time and travel I have yet to meet a SINGLE SERIOUS GUN CARRIER who carries with an empty chamber. And there is a reason for that. The people who KNOW how fast things can go from "hey man, do you have a cigarette" to "give up yo' wallet Mother F-er" know that empty chamber carry is stupid practice that can get you killed. Now for those of you who say "well that is how we carried them in the army back in the day " ....maybe so...but that doesn't in ANY way mean that was the best practice...it just means the army doctrine for carrying a 1911 was "officially" to carry with an empty chamber for safety. I then ask those guys how much pistol training did you get AFTER you did BASIC? Any ? No? Unless you were in a VERY specialized unit, or were an MP you didn'ty carry loaded pistols in any kind of capacity on a regular basis....so people take that to mean that "if the army did it that way it was right". No...if the army did it, it was for a reason and that reason is RARELY because it is the best practice for FIGHTING. It is simply an effort to keep UNTRAINED personnel from shooting themselves and others accidentally because they cannot grasp the concept of not using the trigger as a place to rest their finger . Once those same people deployed to a combat zone the general practice was to say "to hell with the regulations" and carry it loaded and the safety on when outside the wire.....why? Because racking the slide took too long to bring the weapon into a usable condition. In my "day job" I sell holsters and ammo and all manner of other accessories. I had an old guy (clearly in his 60s or 70s) call about a "defective" Galco Miami Classic shoulder holster for his "old military .45". He said it would not "fit". He said the thumb snap would not snap. I finally figured out WHY and asked him ...Sir, are you trying to holster that pistol with the hammer down or with it cocked? He said "What kind of idiot carries it cocked?" I asked if he had a round in the chamber and he again asked what kind of idiot carries that with a "bullet" in the chamber.....He informed me that he was a korean war vet and that "no one" carries a round in the chamber. I told him that Glaco designs their 1911 holsters to be carried with the hammer cocked, round chambered and safety on. THAT is why his gun would not fit.If the hammer was down the thumbsnap was not long enough to wrap around the hammer.... If he simply cocked the hammer it would fit..... He was dumbfounded because apparently since that is how the army did it (empty chamber) in 1950 that was the pinnacle of small arms TTPs.... Another pet peeve is the folks who simply parrot what other uninformed folks have told them about the Israelis carrying with an empty chamber and that they have some of the best counter terror folks in the world so if they do it then it must be OK.....well their CT units carry with loaded chambers...it is the " 2 year conscripts " that carry empty chamber and that started largely because in 1948 when Isreal became a country of their own for the first time since the late Old Testament times they had a hodge podge of foreign guns all with different features and different safety mechanisms. How to train people to use all this differnt stuff? Have them leave the safeties OFF and leave the chamber unloaded....that will work for EVERY TYPE of pistol no matter who made it or where and it is easier to have people do that than to invest the time into training them in good gunhandling practices...... So for all those carrying empty chamber....ask yourself this question.....how do guns go off? The trigger has to be pulled. So if we habituate ourselves to keeping our finger off the trigger until the muzzle is pointed at the target and we don't carelessly handle the pistol and when we are not handling it we have it in a holster that covers the trigger guard then it is nigh unto impossible for it to go off accidentally......AND it will work RIGHT NOW in an emergency situation when you pull it out without having to take the time to involve the other hand to make it functional. Carry how you want....but empty chamber carry is like emptying your car gas tank when you get where you are going so that the car doesn't catch on fire.....a ridiculous practice born of fear and emotion not education and logic.- 83 replies
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Close Range Gunfighting Feb 7-8 Chattanooga Area
Cruel Hand Luke replied to Cruel Hand Luke's topic in Training Discussions
ONE WEEK to go on this one. Don't miss this opportunity to get this class. We only do this class in this area a couple of times a year....... -
Pistol Gunfighting Feb28-March1 Chattanooga area
Cruel Hand Luke replied to Cruel Hand Luke's topic in Training Discussions
Awesome. Looking forward to seeing you in class! -
Cary more then one gun?
Cruel Hand Luke replied to Pdheald's topic in Handgun Carry and Self Defense
A second gun comes in awful handy if the first one is damaged if the BG's bullet hits it or your hand and you are injured and drop it. We see A LOT of wounds to the hands in FOF training. But honestly the overwhelming majority of gun owners with an HCP don't regularly carry a gun............... much less carry TWO. But you can have too much of a good thing. If you are festooned with pistols all over your person and end up in an entangled fight now you are having to not only keep from getting beaten, stabbed, shot, etc, but also trying to keep the other guy from using your own stuff against you. -
On Sunday April 19 Suarez International Tier 1 Instructor Randy Harris will be in Knoxville leading a regional training group working on enhancing pistol skills for extreme interpersonal problem solving. We will be working to smooth out and further develop our skills with the weapon we carry most...our pistol. We will shoot some challenging drills, including the Federal Air Marshal Qualification course. Date: April 19 Time: 9:30 AM to 3:30 PM Subject: Enhancing Combat Pistol Skills Price : $80 pay at class (cash or check) Equipment needed : Pistol and 3 magazines (or 3 speed loaders if you use a revolver) and 200 rounds of ammo Location: 1818 Tarklin Valley Rd Knoxville Tn 37920 Looking forward to seeing you there!
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Pistol Gunfighting Feb28-March1 Chattanooga area
Cruel Hand Luke replied to Cruel Hand Luke's topic in Training Discussions
Absolutely. If that is what you carry then bring it! This class is about teaching you to effectively use your pistol , not to use someone else's idea of an ideal pistol. Bring it and come on out and join us! -
Welcome aboard. Hopefully I will see you in class sometime !
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Get started right or get a refresher on the fundamentals! CRG-1: PISTOL GUNFIGHTING February 28 - March 1, 2015 Price: $350 Chattanooga, Tennessee Instructor: Randy Harris All training must begin with fundamentals. This comprehensive fundamentals class is designed to prep you for the more advanced courses such as Close Range Gunfighting. Through a carefully designed and detailed curriculum we are able to bring you up to a level of skill in a short two day class that previously would take over 4 or 5 days to achieve at other schools. You will learn a complete presentation of the modern combative technique of the pistol which will put you in good standing for any defensive situations you may encounter in the real world. We will also be incorporating fundamental Point Shooting techniques which will prep you for the more advanced courses such as Advanced Reactive Gunfighting. You will learn the components of various point shooting methods and integrate them into your existing skill sets. This knowledge will put you in good standing for any defensive situations you may encounter in the real world. No experience or prior training is needed to attend this class and it is specially suitable for beginners, or as a tune-up for accomplished shooters. DURATION: 2 days TIME: 9:00AM to 5:00PM(CENTRAL) AMMUNITION: Approximately 300 rounds (Minimum) YOU NEED TO BRING: Spare clothing appropriate to the weather. Lunch, snacks and water (minimum of 1 gallon per person) for the entire day. Baseball or other style hat, sun screen, bug repellent, allergy medication (if needed), chair (if you have a problem with sitting on the ground, note taking paper/pen/pencil and a boo boo kit (band aids, gauze pads, antiseptic wipes, antibiotic ointment and tape). REQUIREMENTS: Modern defensive pistol with a holster specifically made for that pistol and designed to be worn on the belt at the "strong side". Three (3) magazines and one magazine pouch. A belt of the same width as the belt loops for the holster and magazine pouches, range safety gear (eye protection and ear protection). For more info and to register......http://www.suarezinternationalstore....x#.VI8q_CvF8as
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In regards to the original question....Person A with no training shoots and kills an assailant who was trying to stab him. Person B wh o HAS had training does the same. IF it goes to trial the guy WITH training can better answer WHY he knew he was in reasonable fear of grave bodily injury or death and can articulate why dude needed to be shot. The other guy may have a harder time convincing the jury that he NEEDED to shoot the guy. If training were a detriment then WHY THE HELL DO POLICE DEPARTMENTS MAKE SUCH A BIG DEAL OF DOCUMENTING OFFICERS TRAINING? Training is never a handicap (unless it is BAD training and they told you to shoot them on the porch and drag them inside or some other such nonsense.....) That is why Police Depts have RECURRING in service training because IF their officer kills someone then they are going to have to prove that he is as well trained as the state POST standards and the dept expects him to be and that he was acting in accordance with that training. As to hand to hand with people "accidentally getting killed".....street fights are dangerous. You can fall and hit your head and be just as dead as someone hit you with a bazooka. So if at all possible it is best to avoid them but if you do find yourself involved in a fight you need to damage the other guy and get away as quick as possible. You see for those of us that carry 24/7 EVERY SINGLE ALTERCATION can possibly end up in a lethal force situation. If you get in a tussle and get knocked out then what do you think the bad guy is gonna do with the gun he finds in your holster? Probably not going to just keep it as a prize.....ask Julie Jacks....oh wait ..you can't because she was disarmed and killed with her own gun..... and she was a uniformed police officer who had been trained in weapon retention.......not just an average joe with a handgun carry permit and no training..........So it is most prudent to avoid physical confrontations and "pissing matches" all together when the "prize " for losing is probably death because you are armed. As to medical personnel rendering aid.....Do what you want, but you are not compelled to render aid to people who were previously trying to kill you. And we actually recommend you NOT TRY TO. The reason is that when people lose consciousness from loss of blood they often "wake up" when their BP gets back to a certain level and they go right back to what they were doing when they passed out. If they "wake up" with you on top of them trying to resuscitate them then you find yourself now in an entangled fight with them. Not where you want to be..... Another issue is the cops rolling up on the scene knowing nothing more than there has been a shooting see you on top of the other guy and might think YOU are the assailant and shoot YOU. So proceed at your own risk. You are only responsible for your own safety. Leave fixing the other guy to the responding EMTs...you're going to have enough to worry about with interacting with the responding cops.
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Close Range Gunfighting Feb 7-8 Chattanooga Area
Cruel Hand Luke replied to Cruel Hand Luke's topic in Training Discussions
TWO weeks to go!!!